It's time for HHH to step away....

[DZ: WF Legacy]

I agree, it is time for Triple H to face Antonio Cesaro at Wrestlemania 30 and put him over.

[SEAN CARLESS]

May 14, 2013 0:06:14 GMT -5 SOR said:

May 13, 2013 23:55:59 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Except from what I recall every Lesnar vs Triple H has been said to be long and drawn out or dull. They aren't bad matches, but they aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. The first one did well in making Brock looking like a monster, but other than that there's been no benefit. And honestly Triple H gains nothing from beating the guy. He's just a figurehead who occasionally wrestles.

But he isn't just that. He's a 13 time World Heavyweight Champion (Or whatever it is) and has beaten almost every top WWE Star ever. Kayfabe wise he's a trained ass kicking machine that has battled everyone from Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Steve Austin, John Cena, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels etc etc.

Brock is that also but if you have Brock just beat the living crap out of Triple H each week because he's a former UFC guy you're burying Triple H and WWE as a whole. The feud needs to be equal.

But they're not equal, physically. And its absurd to pretend they are.

WWE has mishandled the build and the results of this feud in most cases. HHH is indeed a 13 time Champion, but he's not a full-time act anymore. His winning or dominating leads to nothing, doesn't help the long-term, and benefits no one. A strong booked Brock eventually losing to someone who needs it is worth more than an even-steven feud with a corporate suit whom everyone on earth with a concept of reality knows could not hang with Brock straight up.

HHH was called the cerebral assassin because he was supposed to be this smart wrestler, who used his wits and guile to best his opponents. But now, we're supposed to buy him as some sort of reviosinist shoot-fighting tough guy and "ass-kicker" who keeps making Brock his bitch? It's stupid. And it seemingly exists just to stroke HHH's ego. He's like that kid who never loses when you play war because he owns all the toy guns you're playing with.

HHH has been easily exposed in the last few years of being wrestling's biggest self-mark. In a perfect world he'd have came close but lost to Brock and "retired" at Summer Slam. He may be arena popular. But there's little upside to his booking these last few years. He's not needed. The company would thrive without him in the ring regardless of whether he disappeared forever.

May 13, 2013 23:53:07 GMT -5 SOR said:

It'll be refreshing not to see the "TRIPLE H BURIES EVERYONE!!!!" threads for awhile.

You're always going to see "HHH BURIES EVERYONE!!!" threads because there's far more evidence supporting it, than debunking it.

[mizerable]

He had a great chance to walk away back in 2005 after putting Batista over 3 consecutive times. Afterall, he had absolutely nothing left to prove and this was the first time in many years where he didn't have the last laugh in a feud. It was a perfect time to set sail.

Unfortunately, much like a lot of these other guys, they believe they're "doing the right thing" by not walking away. Say what you will about guys like Batista, Ultimate Warrior and Brock Lesnar, they at least walked away and allowed for others to rise in their absence. These others who are such marks for what they do just don't get that they're just holding others back, and Triple H is a massive candidate of this.

Naturally, Triple H came back soon after his feud with Batista and had a very forgettable feud with Flair before going on to "put over" Cena, at a time when a time when Cena didn't exactly need a rub, at least not 3 very established talents in less than 6 months, perhaps maybe at some point, but it was the tipping point for me from going from a Triple H fan to something who started to really loathe his presence.

The point of no return for me was when he won the title for less than a day, for no real reason other than just to pad his already wealthy resume. While we had others who were ready to break the glass ceiling or ready to carry the company, it was Triple H who soon was given his longest WWE title reign, at a point when he didn't need it, nor did he even need to be wrestling, at least with the way he was booking. You would think maybe some of the new Shawn Michaels would rub off on him, but unfortunately we were treated to some of the ugliest title matches in many years and with the exception of 2 others, I have never loathed someone as champion for as long as I did during '08-'09. Nothing good came of it.

Yet he still wasn't done. Nope. Had to prove he was the Cerebral Assassin. The Game. The King of Kings. The Asskicker. The Man. Whatever. He "had to take Undertaker to his limit" and so forth. He had to put a kibosh on Punk's momentum before it had a chance to take off, and to make the show all about him. He was the ONLY one who truly cared! And as if that wasn't enough, he went on to bury the talent for no reason with some bullshit offhand comment, then Punk soon reappeared to be a lieutenant in the Triple H army. After it was his show, not Punk's! Then once again he had to face Taker because no one else was up to the task of ending the streak and all that shit. Rinse. Repeat. Hell, it doesn't matter if he made Lesnar look like a million bucks in a match (he didn't), since he'll just go out there the next night on Raw and just brush it off like it's nothing and talk about how it wasn't over. Everything is always on his terms, and that's what makes him such a waste of TV, because it never f***ing ends.

The sad thing too, is when he isn't thinking of himself, I truly believe that he has the right mind for what wrestling needs. If he wasn't a character and just a guy who truly cared about making a true legacy, as opposed to some bullshit kayfabe one, which will always be measured for how much he actually deserved as opposed to what we got.

So yes, it's time to go away...for good. No lame returns or any of that, because it's like that recovering alcoholic that decides to have just one drink, and just spirals out of control. We'll never be safe as long as these fossils continue to just go out there and "give us one last match". But I guess that's what he wants to be known for. A guy who was one note for doing nothing but wrestling with a one note character.

[flatsdomino]

Hunter is an albatross on WWE at this point, in-ring. He's detrimental in just about every way. If he'd retired after the 'Taker HIAC, absolutely nothing would have been lost, but he doesn't wanna end it so they have to keep booking him, and booking him STRONG at that because he's Triple H and one of the greatest ever blah blah blah.

He never put over Jeff in '08 when he should've, never put over Randy in '09 when he should've, never put over Sheamus in '10 when he should've, came back in '11 just to beat the hot new babyface CM Punk and, like the last three, firmly establish that he's nowhere near the level of THE KING OF KINGS because god knows why, and then hogged Brock Lesnar as his own personal opponent so he could look like a badass legend, effectively killing interest in a guy who it once seemed UNIMAGINABLE that his return would be anything less than the biggest thing ever. The worst part is there's absolutely no purpose to why Triple H has to win these things except he's in them.

They keep him strong for absolutely nothing, because there's not even much of a rub to be gotten from beating Triple H anyway at this point, because Triple H just honestly isn't that impressive. It always seems forced. Even during the Reign of Terror, Triple H never seemed unstoppable like Lesnar did back then - he just seemed like he was being booked to win all the time. He should be an on-screen authority figure, but he's so wrapped up in thinking he's a great wrestler like Ric Flair or Harley Race that he's somehow doing the fans a service by getting in another boring-ass, unending predictable feud and having plodding 4/10 matches placed way too high on the card. He doesn't put anyone over, and hasn't since Chris Benoit was still walking the earth. And people on the 'net will say "B-B-BUT BATISTA" in his defense forever - yeah, and that was almost ten years ago, and he's not even there anymore. Trips has a great mind for the business as far as other guys go, but as far as himself, he'll always drag the program down whenever he's on it because he thinks he should be the star of the show whenever he's there, and a show based around Triple H is never good, and has never been - check how 2011 went from the Summer of Punk to the godawful "Walkout" Raw saga. Like others have said, its weird how he can be so beneficial on one hand and so detrimental on the other. My fear is just that he's never going to stop, and we'll wind up with a worse version of current Hulk Hogan.

[Totorob101]

We all know Triple H is a disgrace, a selfish, egotistical, only cares about himself, type of guy, and this feud with Brock is showing all of his worst traits. He will beat Brock, as he always does, and he will probably pick on other talent after, probably pedigree guys like Cesaro for the fun of it despite having no purpose to be around. The man offers nothing and i think the backstage stuff he does is overrated, i personally think hell drive the company into the ground if he takes over. Hes just awful and most of us cant wait to see the back of him for good reason.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

At this point, HHH should be having a Hulk Hogan 2002-3 run, where his purpose is to make guys who are the current and future WWE standard bearers look like a million bucks, where he grants them a certain legitimacy in fans eyes by having them come out victorious after a meaningful feud with a big name from a previous era. Even now, people talk about how they can't believe the Hulkster tapped out to Kurt Angle or got leveled by Brock, but there will be no such moment with HHH because he's too busy feuding with the big name that got away from him during the time he was stunting the careers of all comers.

I really am getting WCW flashbacks from all this, where Hogan brought in his old adversaries on more money than they're worth, just so he can go over them one last time, or get his win back. They're spending big money on a feud that won't draw, that won't benefit the company in any way because it features people who won't be around long term.

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May 13, 2013 22:49:13 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Just book a gauntlet match between him and the entire WWE roster, where Triple H will get to pedigree and pin every single guy, one after another.

Either his knees will finally give out and turn into jelly, or he just might finally get it all out of his system.

Yeah.

Chances are he'd run to the outside, pedigree Cole, JBL, Roberts/Lilian/Chimmel/whoever's out there, Mark Yeaton the time keeper guy, a cameraman or two, and then Lawler.

Then he'd tear Lawler's chest open, pull his heart out and eat it.

Then he'd start pulling people out of the crowd and pedigree them. Mainly children. Because (a) he can, and (b) the not-quite-believing-this-is-happening parents would get better angled camera shots of the carnage.

Then he'd make his way backstage and pedigree everyone backstage who was too stupid to not run away/call the police when it became apparently that he was a murderer now.

Then he'd tear Vince's chest open, pull his heart out and eat it.

Then he'd climb to the top of the Titantron and pedigree it.

Then he'd take about 200 gunshots from police, 18 taser shots, and a car driven by a suddenly returning Shane McMahon (who, let's face it, left because he expected this and yet was already ready to return in case it did) running him down.

Then he'd tear Shane's chest open, pull his heart out and eat it. Officially making him the son of Vince McMahon. Finally.

Then he'd tear Stephanie's chest open, pull her heart out and eat it. Because he's not a pervert who banged his own sister.

And then he'd look at his kids with a scary glare......


And at this point, to save the impending and REAL awfulness of The Power Trip, God just blew up the universe and started over.



........"get it out of his system." Heh. That's a good one. I'm writing that down.

[Big Daddy Bad Booking]

At this point its legends going against legends. Which is a sorry state in WWE booking that they can't get the young people over, but Trips pops the ratings.

[Starshine]

Ol' Trips himself is a pretty good general representation of WWE as a whole right now. They're both pretty outdated, painfully unoriginal and dull, and think they're a lot cooler than they really are.

On the bright side, I feel like we're on the tail end of Trips' current mid life crisis run. At least I'm hoping it is. Because this guy has been nigh unbearable for years now.

[highfivessteve]

May 13, 2013 22:58:59 GMT -5 WorkingInAColeMine said:

But the ring is his HOME and OFFICE.

Will NOT let this get no-sold. Funniest thing I have read all day haha.

[The Ichi]

I can't put into words how silly it will look if HHH wins at Extreme Rules. Almost as if a millionaire paid an MMA fighter money just to make his son in law look good.

[SEAN CARLESS]

May 14, 2013 13:57:19 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

I can't put into words how silly it will look if HHH wins at Extreme Rules. Almost as if a millionaire paid an MMA fighter money just to make his son in law look good.

It was actually not that unheard of throughout history. Many kings paid or forced knights or gladiators to throw fights to placate the fragile egos of themselves or their sons. The real life Roman Emperor Commodus --whom the film Gladiator was loosely based on -- did exactly that for example. He would hold gladiatorial games with the sole purpose of having the actually skilled fighters purposely "submit" to him, for the glory he thought it earned him in the eyes of the crowd. It had the opposite effect. The crowds thought him pathetic.

[bootytea]

He gets the crowd excited and there is nothing wrong with him.

What I especially like about Triple H is that he is what a superstar should look like because he is super muscular and knows what it takes to be a convincing champion.

Triple H will be remembered as an all time great, not just because of who he fornicates with, but also for his unique look at wrestling superiority.

I will say though, I much preferred him as a blue blood because the harpsichord in his theme kicked butt.

[________ has left the building]

Not before he claims his spot as the greatest of all time.

[Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill]

You know what? You're right, he should step away. Then we won't have these over-alaysts screaming about Triple H burials every f***ing time he shows up.

[Dat Dude]

I've always thought he should have never wrestled again after he became COO. The COO role had character progression, and there was nothing left to accomplish character wise in the ring.

[keepinitreal365]

May 14, 2013 8:12:20 GMT -5 @knapp said:

May 13, 2013 22:49:13 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Just book a gauntlet match between him and the entire WWE roster, where Triple H will get to pedigree and pin every single guy, one after another.

Either his knees will finally give out and turn into jelly, or he just might finally get it all out of his system.

Yeah.

Chances are he'd run to the outside, pedigree Cole, JBL, Roberts/Lilian/Chimmel/whoever's out there, Mark Yeaton the time keeper guy, a cameraman or two, and then Lawler.

Then he'd tear Lawler's chest open, pull his heart out and eat it.

Then he'd start pulling people out of the crowd and pedigree them. Mainly children. Because (a) he can, and (b) the not-quite-believing-this-is-happening parents would get better angled camera shots of the carnage.

Then he'd make his way backstage and pedigree everyone backstage who was too stupid to not run away/call the police when it became apparently that he was a murderer now.

Then he'd tear Vince's chest open, pull his heart out and eat it.

Then he'd climb to the top of the Titantron and pedigree it.

Then he'd take about 200 gunshots from police, 18 taser shots, and a car driven by a suddenly returning Shane McMahon (who, let's face it, left because he expected this and yet was already ready to return in case it did) running him down.

Then he'd tear Shane's chest open, pull his heart out and eat it. Officially making him the son of Vince McMahon. Finally.

Then he'd tear Stephanie's chest open, pull her heart out and eat it. Because he's not a pervert who banged his own sister.

And then he'd look at his kids with a scary glare......


And at this point, to save the impending and REAL awfulness of The Power Trip, God just blew up the universe and started over.



........"get it out of his system." Heh. That's a good one. I'm writing that down.

ROFLMAO. I can't...I freakin' can't. I was so ready to add my two cents then i read this post and completely forgot what i was going to say. LoL this is absolutely hilarious.

[Super Nintenjoe KBD]

I hate "bad ass" Triple H, it's so lame. I at least preferred him as a heel if he has to be on the show. The worst was definitely beating Punk in 2011, unbelievably stupid.

[SEAN CARLESS]

May 14, 2013 14:42:06 GMT -5 Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill said:

You know what? You're right, he should step away. Then we won't have these over-alaysts screaming about Triple H burials every f***ing time he shows up.

Why does it bother you so much that people complain when his ego obviously runs amok? It's not even really debatable anymore. Even the O.J. jury would find HHH guilty these days.

[Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill]

May 14, 2013 15:05:39 GMT -5 SEAN CARLESS said:

May 14, 2013 14:42:06 GMT -5 Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill said:

You know what? You're right, he should step away. Then we won't have these over-alaysts screaming about Triple H burials every f***ing time he shows up.

Why does it bother you so much that people complain when his ego obviously runs amok? It's not even really debatable anymore. Even the O.J. jury would find HHH guilty these days.

It bothers me because it's the same god damn argument, the same god damn week every single god damn time Triple H shows up. Tripe H has a promo, a thread is made how he buried the person, then it gets even worse next week, the the next, then we have a 30 page thread filled with people saying the same arguments and coming to the same defenses, and making the same claims and repeating the same f***ing cycle over and over and over again.
So I just want him to go away so we can go back to making silly memes and admiring Laylas backside.