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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on May 28, 2013 23:46:09 GMT -5
Lumberjack matches are almost always lame, I don't mind the tables since it's only one fall and it always cool to see someone go through a table and after that last man standing match, I don't have much hope for the ambulance match.
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Post by Boozeman on May 29, 2013 2:34:37 GMT -5
The Punk thing has me intrigued.
On one hand, it's way too soon to bring him back full-time and really kind of out of left field. On the other hand, if you promise Punk in Chicago and don't deliver, he will never live that down. I don't care how popular he is in Chicago, that city is never going to forgive him for that. Neither will many of the people who buy the PPV expecting to see him wrestle.
Best bet is to have him show up and not wrestle, but can't see how you do that without him looking like a, for lack of a better term, "punk".
Although, with Heyman, Punk and Jericho involved in this storyline, I guess I should have a little faith.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on May 29, 2013 23:25:17 GMT -5
Something's fishy about the World Title match. They haven't made Del Rio vs. Ziggler official on the site yet. What're they gonna do if Ziggler's not back by Payback?
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on May 30, 2013 12:07:53 GMT -5
The Punk thing has me intrigued. On one hand, it's way too soon to bring him back full-time and really kind of out of left field. On the other hand, if you promise Punk in Chicago and don't deliver, he will never live that down. I don't care how popular he is in Chicago, that city is never going to forgive him for that. Neither will many of the people who buy the PPV expecting to see him wrestle. Best bet is to have him show up and not wrestle, but can't see how you do that without him looking like a, for lack of a better term, "punk". Although, with Heyman, Punk and Jericho involved in this storyline, I guess I should have a little faith. Could have him come out before the 'match' in a segment with Heyman, have him cut a promo on Heyman basically leaning towards a face turn before it escalates into Heyman low-blowing Punk (or taking some kind of cheap shot). Punk then fights back and gets Heyman up for a GTS before Lesnar comes to the rescue. I'd have Punk stand up to Lesnar but ultimately be demolished, put through the announcer's table etc. This way you can write out Punk for a couple more months, satisfy the Chicago crowd and have a ready made feud for Summerslam. The only thing is I'm not too sure where Jericho and/or Curtis Axel would play a part. What we will probably get is a straight up 1 on 1 match with Punk really trying to heel it up.
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Post by ededdneddy on May 30, 2013 12:57:55 GMT -5
I am wondering what The Shield will do. I don't want to see Orton & Sheamus vs. The Shield for the tag titles. What I am hoping for is to see some kind of #1 Contenders Match or something on the Preshow
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on May 30, 2013 13:17:19 GMT -5
Seems like they knew they'd sell more tickets in Chicago if Punk was on the card so they threw him in a match and said "f*** it" to logical story progression.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 19:07:09 GMT -5
I am wondering what The Shield will do. I don't want to see Orton & Sheamus vs. The Shield for the tag titles. What I am hoping for is to see some kind of #1 Contenders Match or something on the Preshow Based on the way they're booking it, it seems kind of like it'll be Shield / Orton & Sheamus / Rhodes Scholars, with Cody or Sandow taking the fall to set up Shield / Orton & Sheamus for Money in the Bank. Guessing Ambrose isn't going to be on PPV for awhile, sort of the problem of being the champion of a division where his only challenger's a guy who's injured.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 30, 2013 19:13:33 GMT -5
I am wondering what The Shield will do. I don't want to see Orton & Sheamus vs. The Shield for the tag titles. What I am hoping for is to see some kind of #1 Contenders Match or something on the Preshow Based on the way they're booking it, it seems kind of like it'll be Shield / Orton & Sheamus / Rhodes Scholars, with Cody or Sandow taking the fall to set up Shield / Orton & Sheamus for Money in the Bank. Guessing Ambrose isn't going to be on PPV for awhile, sort of the problem of being the champion of a division where his only challenger's a guy who's injured. I'm expecting Ambrose vs. Bryan, or a triple threat Ambrose/Bryan/Kane.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 31, 2013 12:55:38 GMT -5
I am wondering what The Shield will do. I don't want to see Orton & Sheamus vs. The Shield for the tag titles. What I am hoping for is to see some kind of #1 Contenders Match or something on the Preshow Based on the way they're booking it, it seems kind of like it'll be Shield / Orton & Sheamus / Rhodes Scholars, with Cody or Sandow taking the fall to set up Shield / Orton & Sheamus for Money in the Bank. Guessing Ambrose isn't going to be on PPV for awhile, sort of the problem of being the champion of a division where his only challenger's a guy who's injured. I feel like Ambrose would've been IC Champion instead if the belt weren't already on a heel. If you're going to have a high ranking guy like Ambrose holding the de facto low card belt, WWE needs to start pushing their midcard faces a bit more, instead of just making them warm bodies to build the midcard heels up just so they can job to Orton. Otherwise you're gonna have guys like Bryan, Kane, Miz etc. stepping down, and then you know that the matches are either going to be conveniently non-title (see Rhodes vs. Orton) or in some type of contrived finish designed solely to either avoid "tying down" the big names with a "lesser" title or keeping the belt on Ambrose without making the bigger names "look weak" (see Miz vs. Cesaro).
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on May 31, 2013 23:02:18 GMT -5
Based on the way they're booking it, it seems kind of like it'll be Shield / Orton & Sheamus / Rhodes Scholars, with Cody or Sandow taking the fall to set up Shield / Orton & Sheamus for Money in the Bank. Guessing Ambrose isn't going to be on PPV for awhile, sort of the problem of being the champion of a division where his only challenger's a guy who's injured. I feel like Ambrose would've been IC Champion instead if the belt weren't already on a heel. If you're going to have a high ranking guy like Ambrose holding the de facto low card belt, WWE needs to start pushing their midcard faces a bit more, instead of just making them warm bodies to build the midcard heels up just so they can job to Orton. Otherwise you're gonna have guys like Bryan, Kane, Miz etc. stepping down, and then you know that the matches are either going to be conveniently non-title (see Rhodes vs. Orton) or in some type of contrived finish designed solely to either avoid "tying down" the big names with a "lesser" title or keeping the belt on Ambrose without making the bigger names "look weak" (see Miz vs. Cesaro). You make this point a lot (usually in support of your boy Alex Riley) but I really agree that the WWE is in great need of building up some midcard faces. They have TWO midcard titles right now, and all their credible midcarders that aren't named Kofi Kingston are heels or locked in tag teams. That's... not gonna work. They have guys that can do it, and Riley is one of them. They really need to focus on building some midcard faces that can challenge for the US Title especially but also the IC title since you can't always have guys like Miz, Christian, and Mysterio dipping into the midcard temporarily. I mean having guys like that who can flex around the card is nice but I'd like to see Barrett face some credible midcarders on the main shows and Pay Per View rather than just on Main Event...... It would be good for Barrett too (and Dean). It would get people more invested in them. The WWE has been doing a great job of debuting a lot of new guys and repackaging/reestablishing old guys but they've all been heels... other than Ryback who is... now a heel. And with the Wyatt family coming up now too... who are all these heels gonna fight. Just going off the roster page and the NXT site they could build up/turn/rebuild/repackage/call up/establish as singles guys AS FACES Riley, Yoshi, Ryder, JTG, Tyson, Santino, Brodus, Tensai, Sin Cara, one or both of PTP (face turn would be awesome), Santino, Colons, Usos, Gabriel, 3MB (there's been talk of a face turn and I think it could work, push Drew as the singles guy), Hunico, Bourne (is he REALLY still hurt?), Big Zeek, Hawkins, Big E when he's ready to turn, Adrian Neville, Corey Graves, Mike Dalton, Richie Steamboat, and Xavier Woods. Note that with the tag guys I listed just because they are established as singles guys doesn't mean I want them out of the tag division. Look at how the Rhodes scholars are both singles guys and a tag team. No reason you can't do that with the Prime Time Players, Tons of Funk, Colons, and even the Usos. Let them all be flexible and go to the place on the card that they are needed. Just give them some focus, everyone listed is capable with the right push!! Not to mention various free agents and also focusing on signing guys who could debut as FACES down the line. BTW I skipped a couple people that I think could only work as heels for now, or should be heels (Cesaro, Otunga, Ohno, ect) and of course NXT guys who aren't necessarily ready. But some combination of those names really need to be officially established as midcard singles faces. Also um where is R-Truth did he get hurt again?
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jun 3, 2013 12:39:02 GMT -5
"Another Way Out" by Hollywood Undead has been announced as the official theme song for Payback.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jun 3, 2013 13:00:22 GMT -5
I want a handicap steel cage match with Bryan vs Reigns, Rollins and Ambrose. Just imagining what the four of them will do to each other in there is crazy. But I would be happy with either Rollins vs Bryan or Bryan vs Ambrose with them getting 20 minutes.
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Post by Cronant on Jun 3, 2013 22:20:41 GMT -5
They really don't like announcing matches that aren't the main event. We're only 2 weeks away, right?
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Post by Error on Jun 3, 2013 22:26:52 GMT -5
They really don't like announcing matches that aren't the main event. We're only 2 weeks away, right? They cannot announce what they don't know.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jun 3, 2013 22:29:11 GMT -5
The other midcard storylines are all pretty crazy right now but Wade vs Miz vs Fandango is effectively announced.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Jun 3, 2013 22:57:49 GMT -5
They really don't like announcing matches that aren't the main event. We're only 2 weeks away, right? This is one of MY problems with the WWE. The moment we see they're going to butt heads for the next three or four weeks, have Vince or Vickie announce the dang matches! That way they can get more buildup. Oh well, the build for this one has been pretty good at least. I'm hoping I'll get to watch this at Hooters with a couple of friends of mine.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Jun 4, 2013 1:56:52 GMT -5
This PPV is about two weeks away and there is still no word on the World Heavyweight title scene. Not a single indication to what's going to happen. Because what? At Payback, they're gonna make Del Rio face Big E Langston for no reason? Right-o.
If Dolph's not gonna be back in time, they should have Big E defend his title in his stead. To make things interesting at least. Because if Big E loses, Dolph comes back and claims he never really lost it.
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Post by Cronant on Jun 4, 2013 21:14:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 5:57:29 GMT -5
Wade Barrett's face has a real look of "I can do so much better than this"
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jun 5, 2013 14:19:35 GMT -5
Wade Barrett's face has a real look of "I can do so much better than this" Its even worse for Barrett considering he is NOT the former world champion of these three. Watch Fandango win it before him too.
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