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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 17, 2014 16:07:16 GMT -5
Eh after watching so many Godzilla movies before seeing this one I can't say I get the complaints about the lack of Godzilla. A lot of the ones I saw, including the original, barely had the big guy in it. Overall I give this movie an 8/10. The positives are plentiful and my only complaints were small. ie not enough Cranston, Ford was a bit bland (not unlikable just bland), and it may have dragged a bit in the middle.
Got to say I loved the new monsters as well. Liked the added emp powers. Really drove home how powerless we would be against them. Plus the larger one kinda reminded me of Cloverfield in a way.
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Post by Some Guy on May 17, 2014 16:45:19 GMT -5
I'm gonna try and see this whenever I can. Sounds like an awesome movie, but from what I have heard... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}The MUTOs have more time than Godzilla. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think Bryan Cranston's boring son's boring wife's boring co-worker has about as much time as Godzilla. Not lying. I'd love to timecode that shit. The boring wife absolutely has more time, which is used to show her walking around in various locales such as her home and a hospital. I'm really starting to think it falls like this: 1998 Godzilla is like some of the weaker Showa. Goofy, nerds hate it. 2014 Godzilla is like a 90s Heisei. Boring as f***, nerds love it. It's gotten praise from the majority of critics, so that's a bit of a rash way to throw it away. I don't think it was boring, it was just...not enough Cranston.
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Post by kidglov3s on May 17, 2014 16:53:44 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think Bryan Cranston's boring son's boring wife's boring co-worker has about as much time as Godzilla. Not lying. I'd love to timecode that shit. The boring wife absolutely has more time, which is used to show her walking around in various locales such as her home and a hospital. I'm really starting to think it falls like this: 1998 Godzilla is like some of the weaker Showa. Goofy, nerds hate it. 2014 Godzilla is like a 90s Heisei. Boring as f***, nerds love it. It's gotten praise from the majority of critics, so that's a bit of a rash way to throw it away. I don't think it was boring, it was just...not enough Cranston. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think that's what killed the movie. If you didn't have the transition to Cody Rhodes it would still be a fundamentally broken movie, but you'd have either Walter White or Godzilla/MUTO most or all of the time so it would be fun enough that the flaws wouldn't really interfere with the experience. Once everything falls on Cody Rhodes and his boring wife, who are somehow modeling themselves on and trying to be more boring than the pretty young white couple from the Robocop remake, it's a dead movie any time you're not seeing Godzilla, and all the other problems of like oh these scenes like in the opening really don't mean anything at all start to surface and you're falling asleep and it's just not a good scene. I agree that I'm harsher than most, but I think my criticisms are seen in most accounts in terms of the human stuff being terrible, Cody Rhodes being terrible. The difference is many seem to be able to say "The human stuff is terrible, what do you expect, it's Godzilla, the Godzilla stuff is great, it's a great movie" where I'm stuck on "90% of this movie is either nearly unwatchable or rendered dramatically moot, this is a terrible movie even if it does handle Godzilla well when it chooses to". I think a lot of my perspective is rooted in my views on narrative, film length, 'good storytelling'. This movie looks great. Sounds amazing in ATMOS. There are good ideas here. Make some fundamental changes in story structure, lighten the tone significantly, set a cap of 90 minutes, you have a good movie in here somewhere but this as it is is very very far from a good movie. I might ask too much of this film, I shouldn't hold a Godzilla movie up to the high bars of Godzilla vs Hedorah or All Monsters Attack.
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Post by Some Guy on May 17, 2014 17:03:03 GMT -5
It's gotten praise from the majority of critics, so that's a bit of a rash way to throw it away. I don't think it was boring, it was just...not enough Cranston. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think that's what killed the movie. If you didn't have the transition to Cody Rhodes it would still be a fundamentally broken movie, but you'd have either Walter White or Godzilla/MUTO most or all of the time so it would be fun enough that the flaws wouldn't really interfere with the experience. Once everything falls on Cody Rhodes and his boring wife, who are somehow modeling themselves on and trying to be more boring than the pretty young white couple from the Robocop remake, it's a dead movie any time you're not seeing Godzilla, and all the other problems of like oh these scenes like in the opening really don't mean anything at all start to surface and you're falling asleep and it's just not a good scene. I agree that I'm harsher than most, but I think my criticisms are seen in most accounts in terms of the human stuff being terrible, Cody Rhodes being terrible. The difference is many seem to be able to say "The human stuff is terrible, what do you expect, it's Godzilla, the Godzilla stuff is great, it's a great movie" where I'm stuck on "90% of this movie is either nearly unwatchable or rendered dramatically moot, this is a terrible movie even if it does handle Godzilla well when it chooses to". {Spoiler} I get that, but I just enjoyed the whole point they were going for in a sense. I despised that Cranston died and the crowd groaned in my theater when he did, but it is what it is. ATJ was basically just a plot point to get us from A to B, and it was admirable that they built up to Godzilla so well. Plus, the monsters look absolutely superb. I still look forward to another sequel as long as they don't use the same actors...although I do think ATJ is usually fine and Olsen is a great young actress.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 17, 2014 17:04:17 GMT -5
They should take a lesson from the Marvel films and do movies on all their best monsters with a single overall creative vision, before bringing them all together for a major monster battle royale.
Shitloads of money will be made.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on May 17, 2014 17:20:45 GMT -5
Finally watched it. Loved it. {Spoiler} My complaints are the same as the others: - Cranston killed off too soon. - Aaron was kinda dull to be the movie's lead. Definitely likeable but seemed more like a "protagonist best buddy" type of character. - Too much Muto (i liked the monsters though) - Not enough Godzilla, although in a way, i'm kinda fine with it mainly because everytime 'Zilla appeared, i got the "OOOOOHHHH SHEEEEEEEEEE" goosebumps. - Cutting away to random stuff just before the GZ/Muto fight TWICE! And never going back. - The fight was awesome but, yeah, couldn't see the male Muto getting impaled. My fav things: - The story was really nice. - The way they showed Godzilla's trademark stuff (Roar, Atomic Breath, presence in general.) - Humans got a lot of screen, but was rarely boring. Most of the characters are likeable. - CGI and a lot of scenes looked freaking beautiful. There's a shot of Godzilla coming out of the sea from far with submarines infront of him, that was just awesome. - The use of kids throughout the movie was a nice touch. Made me more invested in the movie. - i REALLY liked how Godzilla (the hero) killed more people just by appearing for the first time than both Mutos did in the whole movie ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) That's all i have. Enjoyable movie. And with all the success it got, hopefully we get another movie a few years away from now. And a video game too pls ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on May 17, 2014 17:32:34 GMT -5
Just saw it tonight. Loved it, slow build to big monster fight. Godzilla never looked so good One question do the Muto's have an actual name? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Anyone spot the Mothra reference when they searched the old home. Kind of cool.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 17, 2014 21:06:31 GMT -5
So I watched Godzilla tonight and all I have to say is two things.... First... Second... {Spoiler}Godzilla has the best fatality ever.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 17, 2014 21:21:51 GMT -5
Just got back from it. I enjoyed it. Granted, it wasn't quite the same without the bad lip syncing and the windup toy tanks. But still, they did a very good with a more modern take on it, and I'd say they did the big guy justice. They treated him more as a force of nature than a benevolent protector, the fact that humanity benefited from him was just coincidence. And they let him use the freaking atomic breath, the theater EXPLODED when that happened. Bow down to the king!
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Post by BigBadZ on May 17, 2014 22:06:27 GMT -5
Just saw it tonight. Loved it, slow build to big monster fight. Godzilla never looked so good One question do the Muto's have an actual name? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Anyone spot the Mothra reference when they searched the old home. Kind of cool. I saw it and first thought it would be the story to the sequel but then realized I was wrong very quickly {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I thought the radioactivity would grow "Mothra" into giant proportions to take on Godzilla but then they walked in with their helmets off Completely off topic, I just got the original Godzilla movie and I noticed when the older Japanese man was yelling at the beach, the sound clip was used during Too Cool's "Turn it Up" theme at the crazy scream part.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 17, 2014 22:14:18 GMT -5
Also good news for people who hate shaky cam.....it's not in the film.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 18, 2014 0:30:06 GMT -5
After I see this film tomorrow morning I'm going to stop by a geek toy store in the same mall as the theatre(called of all things Toyko) that has a crap load of imported Japanese toys as stuff(in fact I actually already bought a cheap $10 Mechagodzilla figure from them last year after seeing Pacific Rim), and grab me something Kaiju-related. They even had some of DVDs of older Godzilla films, but dunno if they'll still have them now.
Edit: Actually I am definitely stopping by Toyko tomorrow, as after checking their Facebook page I found out they are having a 20% off sale for all their Godzilla stuff.
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Post by Juice on May 18, 2014 0:49:07 GMT -5
Movie fell flat for me. Just didn't connect at all. There's a ridiculous lack of the monsters. They cut away from the each time there is any action teased at all. They have an abundance of underdeveloped human characters. The formula is there. They had Cranston. They had Wantanabe who was a very interesting character, but they shared too much time with each other and not enough time was given to the monsters nor the humans. It just wasn't that good.
I think going the route of Godzilla vs other monsters was the wrong choice. Having Godzilla arise and cause havok would have allowed for the human characters to be developed better, there could have been monster secrecy and humans dealing with the fact that nuclear fallout had created this mess and they were to blame. Then in the end of the movie introduce the other monsters for a prelude to a sequel.
I expected a much better movie than what I got and f*** it...
98 Godzilla was better. Someone had to say it.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 2:05:16 GMT -5
I just watched it and I really enjoyed it. Outside of maybe five minutes total devoted to Ford and his wife's actual story, he kinda just serves as a vehicle to have someone on the ground during the attacks. Watanabe's character, I feel, actually gets the most development without the most focus(which is one of my problems with the movie, he should have more screen time.). But once it's time for the main event, it delivered way more than I thought it would. I was also really impressed with the size of the monsters, they truly felt gigantic. It's probably because I don't have a real connection with the previous films, but I didn't leave disappointed.
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Post by camsamurai06 on May 18, 2014 7:24:04 GMT -5
I really wish the BBC had dragged the old 1998 Monster Night out of mothballs last night, anything's better than paying tribute to the Good Life for the 12345th time.
Also this movie strongly lacked Jonathan Peirce
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Post by The Shareholder is nude on May 18, 2014 9:31:33 GMT -5
Epic film. If you went in looking for Michael Bay Transformer porn, you will hate it. If you went in expecting a well made FILM that happened to happily be about Godzilla, then you will love it.
A slow burn is always best, like in sex, you just dont rush to the end (unless hockey is on).
As a lifelong Godzilla fanatic, I do not want to see 90 minutes of Godzilla stepping on stuff and killing monsters. This film is perfectly balanced between human drama and the monsters.
Even when Godzilla isn't on the screen, his presence is there, you KNOW he is on his way to deal some serious pwnage to the MUTO's.
I look at this as the Batman Begins of Godzilla films: Grounded in reality as much as possible, darker, and a set up to a glorious and superior second film with a villain that will become legendary (Destroyah, Rodan, Megalon, Gigan etc etc).
10 out of 10.
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Post by Adam Black on May 18, 2014 9:56:37 GMT -5
I really enjoyed it despite the few minutes Godzilla has on screen, everytime he is it makes the long wait worth it. The human characters were alright although most are bland, underdeveloped, and boring most of them were harmless and none of them were annoying.The MUTOs were good they did a good job building them up as monsters well despite being created just for this film. That final sequence is one of the greatest things I've ever seen on screen especially with the appearance of the atomic breath. I guess my only complaint is well I know this is weird but I thought Godzilla looked too cute, I swear he looks like a puppy-bear just wating to be hugged. His body even jiggles when he roars .
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Post by Jiren on May 18, 2014 10:37:15 GMT -5
Very "meh" for me
While I'm not going to complain about Godzilla's lack of screentime (because it didn't bother me) but the characters who were supposed to carry the film were terrible and honestly made the film boring. But the Frist 10 & last 20 minutes are awesome and are worth slogging through the 90 mins of dullness for.
That being said they may have been boring but at least they weren't irritating (Bayformers).
Special FX were great and Godzilla when he appeared looked AWESOME and so did the MUTO's.
I hope we get a sequel that adds a classic villain (Ghidorah please)
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 11:20:13 GMT -5
As someone who was basically raised on Godzilla, I very much enjoyed this one. My main problem was that the main guy was really bland. Normally this is to be expected somewhat from a Godzilla movie, but what makes this issue stand out is that they actually had the potential for a compelling or at least interesting lead with Cranston's character - the trailers certainly made it seem like he was to be the main guy. But they don't utilize Cranston nearly as much as they could have, instead focusing on Boring White Military Protagonist #893.
Beyond that I thought it was really good. It in no way deserves to be compared to the '98 remake, which was an abominable piece of shit that never should have been made. Say what you will but this at least felt like a Godzilla movie, not like a shameless reskin of Jurassic Park 2.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 18, 2014 11:42:44 GMT -5
I enjoyed it quite a bit. Wasn't perfect, and the human characters were kinda eh, but it was a worthy reboot/revamp whatever you wanna call it. Entertaining. I dug it. Nothing I'll rush out to own, but definitely worth a watch
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