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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 18:01:56 GMT -5
You realize that was sarcasm? Most of everyone on the WWE board hates McMahon family drama. Seeing Hogan's daughter be shoe horned in each week is just plain stupid. "Hey Gail. Member dat ODB is an active wrestler! Better watch out!" I don't know why exactly, but this part made me laugh really damn hard.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 28, 2013 18:28:37 GMT -5
I'm going to do a small commentary on Brooke.
The concept of bringing family members in as roster members isn't out of the ordinary. Sometimes, it can be good. Dustin Rhodes in WCW, while not a top star, certainly grew into his own and became a great talent. The second generation wrestlers in WWE, some are great (Bray Wyatt, Richie Steamboat, Curtis Axel) and some despised (Bo Dallas). Hell, when Vince Russo was in TNA, his son was employed as well. Russo's son was an intern I think. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, he got the job because he's Russo's kid, but it's nothing major. Just something that can get him some real world experience.
So when Hogan came in before, he brought in a lot of the Hulkamania tour guys in with him. When I first heard Bubba the Love Sponge, I actually liked his voice, and I thought he could be decent on television. Then he squated over Beer Money, and it started going downhill, before he was a poison within the company. So, sometimes guys can be brought in who are known to some of the bigger names, and they would be able to hold their own.
CM Punk, from everything that Colt said, has been pushing to get Colt in for ages. Now, they're friends, but we all know Colt's talents, and he could certainly hold his own. The point I'm trying to get to is this. Brooke Hogan is just awful. Her acting is worse then Kaitlyn's. She's more annoying then Stephanie McMahon. Now that the thing with Bully Ray is over with the whole, her getting a real life fiancee, she serves not much of a purpose. You just need the one authority figure to make matches. Especially when you're in cost cutting mode, there's one person who you really could cut, because she really does serve no purpose. At least Jesse Sorenson was a personal assistant. He did stuff. He was valuable. Brooke stinks up the TV. When she speaks, she reminds me of one of those awkward teenagers who have to go up and present their social studies projects. It doesn't matter what she looks like. At a time where you're cutting costs, you have to look at the people who really are expendable and give nothing to the product. I'm not a fan of Hulk Hogan being there, because I feel he's not worth what he's getting paid. But at least he's worth something. At least he can talk, at least he is a figure people respect, at least he's a name. Brooke is a nobody who happens to be the daughter of a name. Tommy Dreamer's twin girls would be more entertaining on the program then her, and apparently they're trained as little actresses.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jul 28, 2013 18:42:26 GMT -5
But no one ever criticizes WWE for putting Stephanie on tv. Everyone's just like "Wow Steph is an amazing talent, how come she can't be on every show?" You know what WWE needs? More McMahons on Raw. Can't get enough of the McMahon family drama. Hito's right. Stephanie's okay in small doses as is Hunter or even Vince. However, many of us are old enough to remember the McMahon soap opera during the attitude era and early 2000's. I think the major difference people see between Stephanie and Brooke is Stephanie actually went to college and worked her way up. Did it help that her daddy is the CEO? Hell yes. However, Steph worked her way up in the business. Brooke's totally different. Hogan pushed her dreams of being a singer. When that flopped they got into the reality tv show business together. Now Hogan and TNA are just extending Brooke's fifteen minutes until she gets another reality show or runs the TMZ circuit.
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Post by SOR on Jul 28, 2013 18:56:39 GMT -5
Why the heck would I not watch Impact because of Brooke Hogan. I enjoy most of it, just not the Hogan Family Drama. I didn't say don't watch Impact I said turn to something else when Brooke is on and return a minute or two later. It's not like she's doing massive back and forth promo's most of the time she's either standing side by side with Hulk or is in a 30-60 second backstage angle. Brooke was just thrown into a top spot, because she is someones daughter. Her net worth is around $6m(google it), and yes she is making around 6 figures. She is not working at TNA for minimum wage (as one person on here referenced). So TNA is paying Brooke Hogan and Christy Hemme (who only works selected house shows) at the very minimum of a combined $200k. These are people who bring nothing to the company. No one in their life will ever pay to see these two do anything. Yes, Linda McMahon is terrible on the mic, but she is a business person first, and foremost. So is Steph, so was Shane, and so is Vince. I did indeed google it and I don't think the web page you are quoting is entirely accurate. They quote Hulk's net worth at 5 million and I'd be willing to bet Hulk is richer than his daughter even post divorce. As for Brooke, you have the right to an opinion on her being worthless but Christy does a lot of backstage work for TNA and again the 150k figure we were given many years ago was just rumor. I'd guess Christy is on around 70-75k a year. I don't know how Christy doesn't add to the show by the way. She has a good voice, is like a 9/10 looks wise. Throw in all the backstage stuff she allegedly does and you have a work horse.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 28, 2013 20:39:19 GMT -5
Their were/are a heck of a lot of people who criticize Stepha and especially Big Momma Linda. However, I'll play Devil's advocate and say that their wasn't as much hate toward Steph between 99-04 because she was actually useful and productive in the early years. It was really during HHH Reign of Terror when people became sick of Steph. Brooke is none of those things, doesn't add or enhance TNA. If Brooke left TNA today,most would not notice and those that did, would be happy. Why the heck would I not watch Impact because of Brooke Hogan. I enjoy most of it, just not the Hogan Family Drama. Yeah, people actually benefited from working a storyline with Steph. She helped Triple H get more over as a heel, and her feud with Jericho helped Jericho. There's also Steph being worlds better on the mic, having more charisma, and better presence. For the mic work, Brooke sounds like she's not comfortable in front of the live audience, Steph at the very least does sound comfortable. Hell Steph didn't get knocked off of her game when an arena was chanting "Slut" at her, Brooke was effected by the audience chanting for Eric Young. Steph was more over than Brooke, even as a face at the beginning, Steph was more over than Brooke is. Also Steph is much, much, much hotter than Brooke.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jul 28, 2013 20:49:40 GMT -5
This. Sounds like TNA bias to me tbh. At least Hulk hasn't put his daughter in the ring or given her a title belt. You realize that was sarcasm? Most of everyone on the WWE board hates McMahon family drama. Exact-a-mundo! And lest we forget, Stephanie once held the WWF Women's strap.
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Post by metylerca on Jul 28, 2013 21:26:31 GMT -5
Why the heck would I not watch Impact because of Brooke Hogan. I enjoy most of it, just not the Hogan Family Drama. I didn't say don't watch Impact I said turn to something else when Brooke is on and return a minute or two later. It's not like she's doing massive back and forth promo's most of the time she's either standing side by side with Hulk or is in a 30-60 second backstage angle. Brooke was just thrown into a top spot, because she is someones daughter. Her net worth is around $6m(google it), and yes she is making around 6 figures. She is not working at TNA for minimum wage (as one person on here referenced). So TNA is paying Brooke Hogan and Christy Hemme (who only works selected house shows) at the very minimum of a combined $200k. These are people who bring nothing to the company. No one in their life will ever pay to see these two do anything. Yes, Linda McMahon is terrible on the mic, but she is a business person first, and foremost. So is Steph, so was Shane, and so is Vince. I did indeed google it and I don't think the web page you are quoting is entirely accurate. They quote Hulk's net worth at 5 million and I'd be willing to bet Hulk is richer than his daughter even post divorce. As for Brooke, you have the right to an opinion on her being worthless but Christy does a lot of backstage work for TNA and again the 150k figure we were given many years ago was just rumor. I'd guess Christy is on around 70-75k a year. I don't know how Christy doesn't add to the show by the way. She has a good voice, is like a 9/10 looks wise. Throw in all the backstage stuff she allegedly does and you have a work horse. If she added to the show, people would enjoy and notice her presence. Most times she gets brought up only to point out how much she's unfit as the ring announcer. That, and I sincerely doubt anybody would bat an eye if she was replaced.
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Post by SOR on Jul 28, 2013 23:25:18 GMT -5
I didn't say don't watch Impact I said turn to something else when Brooke is on and return a minute or two later. It's not like she's doing massive back and forth promo's most of the time she's either standing side by side with Hulk or is in a 30-60 second backstage angle. I did indeed google it and I don't think the web page you are quoting is entirely accurate. They quote Hulk's net worth at 5 million and I'd be willing to bet Hulk is richer than his daughter even post divorce. As for Brooke, you have the right to an opinion on her being worthless but Christy does a lot of backstage work for TNA and again the 150k figure we were given many years ago was just rumor. I'd guess Christy is on around 70-75k a year. I don't know how Christy doesn't add to the show by the way. She has a good voice, is like a 9/10 looks wise. Throw in all the backstage stuff she allegedly does and you have a work horse. If she added to the show, people would enjoy and notice her presence. Most times she gets brought up only to point out how much she's unfit as the ring announcer. That, and I sincerely doubt anybody would bat an eye if she was replaced. Hmm. Fire Christy and employ 3 people to do the work she does. Hmm...What do? If she were JUST the ring announcer you'd have a point maybe but she's a jack of all trades.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 23:35:21 GMT -5
If she added to the show, people would enjoy and notice her presence. Most times she gets brought up only to point out how much she's unfit as the ring announcer. That, and I sincerely doubt anybody would bat an eye if she was replaced. Hmm. Fire Christy and employ 3 people to do the work she does. Hmm...What do? If she were JUST the ring announcer you'd have a point maybe but she's a jack of all trades. I know she does ring announcing and some backstage interviews - which I wouldn't call being a Jill of All Trades. What else does she do for TNA?
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 28, 2013 23:36:15 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with them using Hemme or paying what they are, but even if we use the number you randomly pulled out of thin air with no real reason to buy into, you could get two people to do those jobs for cheaper than 75K a year. A Ring announcer and backstage interviewer are not hot commodities that people tune in for, even if they're hot. =
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 28, 2013 23:43:03 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with them using Hemme or paying what they are, but even if we use the number you randomly pulled out of thin air with no real reason to buy into, you could get two people to do those jobs for cheaper than 75K a year. A Ring announcer and backstage interviewer are not hot commodities that people tune in for, even if they're hot. = If a backstage interviewer being hot would bring in viewers, the ratings during Lauren's run would have been a hell of a lot higher.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jul 28, 2013 23:47:47 GMT -5
Their were/are a heck of a lot of people who criticize Stepha and especially Big Momma Linda. However, I'll play Devil's advocate and say that their wasn't as much hate toward Steph between 99-04 because she was actually useful and productive in the early years. It was really during HHH Reign of Terror when people became sick of Steph. Brooke is none of those things, doesn't add or enhance TNA. If Brooke left TNA today,most would not notice and those that did, would be happy. Why the heck would I not watch Impact because of Brooke Hogan. I enjoy most of it, just not the Hogan Family Drama. Yeah, people actually benefited from working a storyline with Steph. She helped Triple H get more over as a heel, and her feud with Jericho helped Jericho. There's also Steph being worlds better on the mic, having more charisma, and better presence. For the mic work, Brooke sounds like she's not comfortable in front of the live audience, Steph at the very least does sound comfortable. Hell Steph didn't get knocked off of her game when an arena was chanting "Slut" at her, Brooke was effected by the audience chanting for Eric Young. Steph was more over than Brooke, even as a face at the beginning, Steph was more over than Brooke is. Also Steph is much, much, much hotter than Brooke. Also Stephanie never fell on her ass when introducing new talent.
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Post by SOR on Jul 29, 2013 0:21:00 GMT -5
Hmm. Fire Christy and employ 3 people to do the work she does. Hmm...What do? If she were JUST the ring announcer you'd have a point maybe but she's a jack of all trades. I know she does ring announcing and some backstage interviews - which I wouldn't call being a Jill of All Trades. What else does she do for TNA? Apparently she does something with the sound or something also. Like a tech role when I said backstage I meant literal backstage.
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Post by metylerca on Jul 29, 2013 0:28:34 GMT -5
I know she does ring announcing and some backstage interviews - which I wouldn't call being a Jill of All Trades. What else does she do for TNA? Apparently she does something with the sound or something also. Like a tech role when I said backstage I meant literal backstage. Something they could easily delegate for someone in the truck or any of their other employees to do.
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Post by SOR on Jul 29, 2013 0:39:41 GMT -5
Apparently she does something with the sound or something also. Like a tech role when I said backstage I meant literal backstage. Something they could easily delegate for someone in the truck or any of their other employees to do. Maybe, if they're qualified to do it. I don't know EXACTLY what she does but it could be a big enough role that they would need to hire someone else.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 29, 2013 0:41:57 GMT -5
Or they could just have Borash do all the ring announcing again.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Jul 29, 2013 0:47:35 GMT -5
Please don't fire Christy Hemme. My penis would be so sad.
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Post by kamero00 on Jul 29, 2013 1:13:39 GMT -5
Is it the Hogan fanatics blindly defending her, or the irrational TNA fans? (Not all TNA fans are irrational).
People get so defensive about TNA, guess what? Most of the people criticizing it, watch every week and that makes them fans too.
Yeah she's not ugly, but she has no place in TNA
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 29, 2013 7:00:13 GMT -5
Something they could easily delegate for someone in the truck or any of their other employees to do. Maybe, if they're qualified to do it. I don't know EXACTLY what she does but it could be a big enough role that they would need to hire someone else. I don't think she has a degree in sound engineering, so I'd wager if they are having her do something, it's something you could train other people to. And if they're having her do it in addition to the ring announcing and backstage interviews, it's probably not something that you couldn't have someone else do.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 9:32:36 GMT -5
I know she does ring announcing and some backstage interviews - which I wouldn't call being a Jill of All Trades. What else does she do for TNA? Apparently she does something with the sound or something also. Like a tech role when I said backstage I meant literal backstage. I tried searching it online and couldn't find anything about it. Where did you read this? I'd like to know more about what she's been doing.
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