thecrusherwi
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Post by thecrusherwi on Aug 6, 2013 20:16:02 GMT -5
Diesel pretty much dropped a pipe bomb the night after Survivor Series 1995. As close to a shoot as you can get without going overboard.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Aug 6, 2013 20:53:34 GMT -5
Most anything that Piper said. My personal favorite was during his RR'92 promo quoting the Mountie he says: "'second thing I'm going to do is take Roddy Piper's manhood.' I came here to fight, I don't know what you came here to do!?" His follow up to that was just as risque. "I came here to win two titles and I can't do that until I win the first, and if you think you can stop me you're dreaming...and I thinks it's been all wet too."
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Ben Wyatt
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 7, 2013 6:43:34 GMT -5
The whole Jake/Savage feud was attitude era stuff. As someone else mentioned, the Cobra biting Savage was pretty strong but for me the match they had at Tuesday in Texas was worse. Just for Jake slapping Elizabeth in the face and telling her "to save his ass". Man, the 91 version of heel Jake was just unsettlingly evil
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Essential1
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Post by Essential1 on Aug 7, 2013 7:20:47 GMT -5
Goldust vs Piper Hollywood Backlot Brawl.
Very outrageous. The match doesn't even end by pinfall but after both guys kiss eachother Piper tears Goldust's attire off to reveal lingerie. A pre Attitude Era WTF moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 7:37:59 GMT -5
The whole Jake/Savage feud was attitude era stuff. As someone else mentioned, the Cobra biting Savage was pretty strong but for me the match they had at Tuesday in Texas was worse. Just for Jake slapping Elizabeth in the face and telling her "to save his ass". Man, the 91 version of heel Jake was just unsettlingly evil The best heel of all time, in my eyes. Everyone always says that a heel needs to think he's right, but Jake knew what he was doing was evil - he just enjoyed toying with people because he could.
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Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 7, 2013 9:26:54 GMT -5
Sherri (she's involved in a lot of these isn't she) getting on her knees for the Warrior asking for a title shot with.... implications for his reward.
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Post by wwefan71080 on Aug 7, 2013 11:47:07 GMT -5
I'm believing that 1992 was supposed to be the beginning of the attitude era but the steroid scandal put a halt to that and basically had to revert to the family friendly programming to make it up to the fans, but 1991 as a whole wouldn't seem out of place with the attitude era
1991 had Sgt Slaughter being an Iraqi sympathizer during the Iraq war, Jake Roberts as a whole, the locking of the Ultimate Warrior in the casket and many more
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babyfootball
Don Corleone
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Post by babyfootball on Aug 7, 2013 15:51:04 GMT -5
Yet, 1991 was the year that I became a fan, in earnest (that's the earliest I have Apter and WWF mags from, earliest Nintendo game I have, etc) even though I was a ripe old age of 6 and a half. I have great memories of those days, but quite a few being terrifying. Even into early 1992, some of their characters showed "shades of grey" and so on. Hell, I was terrified of Papa Shango and he debuted at WrestleMania VIII, I remember being real freaked out when he made Mean Gene's head ooze what looked like motor oil and literally couldn't watch when he made Warrior hurl all over the place. The rest of 1992 wasn't so bad but obviously the steroid trial and other allegations had a lot to do with the cartoonish (like Saturday morning cartoons and not the more comic-book style of the '80s) direction the WWF went in through the next few years, which ironically featured one of their most clean-cut and no-nonsense (besides the bright pink color scheme) champions in Bret Hart.
The difference is that in the Attitude Era, it wasn't necessarily about dark, nuanced stories as much as it was about tits, ass, garbage wrestling and cursing. I hate how that part of the story gets glossed over. Sure, it was a hell of an interesting time to be a wrestling fan but to not give much of the style's success to the whole Jerry Springer thing pop culture was going through at the time just isn't realistic. Sure, wrestlers all throughout time have done some pretty crass and despicable things (usually as heels) but it was rare that, except for being a scary monster or a violent wildman, those things would really just be a wrestler's entire gimmick. I didn't really care for it at the time, despite being converted into a Stone Cold fan just because he was so damn good at it.
I mean, I'd really hate to see wrestling, as a faux combat-sport, lose any and all semblance of grit and edge because that's really where its roots are in the first place, and what separates it from other forms of colorful, scripted entertainment. Whether it be a bit of blood, a foul word/negative connotation here and there inspired by intense dislike and the occasional shocking moment, it's that feeling of uncertainty that's at the heart of the whole show!
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Post by thegame415 on Aug 7, 2013 17:05:17 GMT -5
As mentioned, I believe 1991 to early 1992 was pretty edgy stuff. A lot similar to 1997.
Also, no one has mentioned Pillman's got a gun? I guess some people consider that Attitude Era
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 17:08:35 GMT -5
Sherri and her lingerie and thongs around the Macho King era was a godsend for young me.
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Post by jimmyjames on Aug 8, 2013 0:53:39 GMT -5
Almost any Piper promo when he was feuding with a minority, i.e. Snuka and Mr. T.
As much crap WWF/E gets for the 1996-2001, in racial matters, earlier years, especially the 80s, were really bad, particular as it was aimed more at children than in later years.
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mybraveface
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On balance, off balance, doesn't even matter, 'cause I'm better than you are, yeah!"
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Post by mybraveface on Aug 8, 2013 7:11:41 GMT -5
Randy Savage in an early promo talking about how the power of Macho Madness was "more seductive than sex".
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Gummydavidson
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Gummydavidson on Aug 8, 2013 8:18:31 GMT -5
Money Inc caving in Brutus Beefcake's face with a briefcase.
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Post by ronnie2hotty on Aug 9, 2013 9:01:49 GMT -5
Two things that stick out in my mind:
1989 - the start of the Ron Bass/Brutus Beefcake fued when Bass took his spurs across the head of Beefcake, even though there was a big red X censor across the screen, it was still pretty shocking given the time period
1997 - in February, and iirc, the night after the Final Four ppv, Bret Hart goes on an uncensored profinity laced rant aimed toward Vince McMahon about losing the title that night. As and 18 year old adult, a 14 year wrestling fan who had grown bored with the stale WWF/WCW landscape and no access to ECW, it was an amazing moment.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Aug 9, 2013 10:14:25 GMT -5
Also, Hogan being accused of "lusting after" Elizabeth. Wow that's racy
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 9, 2013 11:06:09 GMT -5
Tunney smiling is just creepy.
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Madagascar Fred
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Aug 9, 2013 13:56:50 GMT -5
if the steroid scandal wouldn't have happened, would the Attitude Era (light) have happened around late 92/93? Bret as the loudmouth rebel title chaser (later champion), Hogan as a heel, Savage swearing on commentary, Fishbucket Matches with the Headshrinkers, Money Inc. buying hoes in every city, Johnny Polo transforming into RAVEN?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 13:58:47 GMT -5
if the steroid scandal wouldn't have happened, would the Attitude Era (light) have happened around late 92/93? Bret as the loudmouth rebel title chaser (later champion), Hogan as a heel, Savage swearing on commentary, Fishbucket Matches with the Headshrinkers, Money Inc. buying hoes in every city, Johnny Polo transforming into RAVEN? ::shudder:: Maybe it's better that it waited.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 9, 2013 14:12:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'd include the violent angles as "Attitude" - that stuff has been around for decades.
When Dusty Rhodes arrived in the WWF, one of his first vignettes had him working as a butcher in a meat market. At the very end, he states "You can beat my prices, but you can't beat my meat!"
Hogan and Savage promising Elizabeth would reveal an "eenie-weeinie polk-a-dot bikini" at a ppv (though the outfit turned out to be anything but)
Dr. D David Schultz' gun antics during a visit from Mean Gene.
Rude/Roberts was brought up, but in particular, the moment Jake stripped Rude down to thong underwear in the middle of the ring (and the way the censoring made it seem like he was completely naked)
The Tom Prichard/Tony Anthony "wife beater" angle in...Smokey Mountain?
Ron Garvin telling the world that Savage was a Poffo and had been arrested for petty theft. Or was it Dundee? Something almost tells me there were two different incidents I'm combining.
Adrian Adonis, Adrian Street, Boy Tony. ESPECIALLY Street. No one pulled this stuff off better than him. Winning a title by planting a kiss on Terry Taylor then pinning the shocked opponent...
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Madagascar Fred
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Aug 9, 2013 14:18:19 GMT -5
The whole Jake/Savage feud was attitude era stuff. As someone else mentioned, the Cobra biting Savage was pretty strong but for me the match they had at Tuesday in Texas was worse. Just for Jake slapping Elizabeth in the face and telling her "to save his ass". Man, the 91 version of heel Jake was just unsettlingly evil yup, one of the most evil wrestling characters ever probably, and in the kiddy-friendly WWF days too! awesome!
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