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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Aug 18, 2013 22:12:34 GMT -5
To be honest, I think "Beat Cena clean" is worth more to someone's achievement list than any belt could ever hope to. At the end of the day, Bryan is still the guy who beat Cena cleanly--a very exclusive club shared by The Rock and (depending on who the bouncer is that night) Punk. Even if he never gets the title back he is still the man who beat Cena cleanly--and to me that feels worth more than a 2 month reign with the title, the way Cena is generally booked. Don't forget the Game / Ass-Kicker / King of Kings / Cerebral Assassin / Connecticut Blue Blood. He's beaten Cena clean a lot more times than Cena's beaten him. Yeah, I meant more within the last few years than in general, but you are right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 22:12:45 GMT -5
Triple H is really f***ing important, guys. We all need to pay attention to him
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Aug 18, 2013 22:13:00 GMT -5
If you're mad at this, but cheered Batista going over Cena at Elimination Chamber 2010, then congratulations...you have preferences.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Aug 18, 2013 22:13:22 GMT -5
Triple H is really f***ing important, guys. We all need to pay attention to him If we don't, wrestling will cease to be. This is truth.
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Post by molson5 on Aug 18, 2013 22:14:07 GMT -5
Best thing for Bryan's career right now is to be the top face in the company chasing a Vince McMahon-endorsed heel.
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Post by BigWill on Aug 18, 2013 22:14:40 GMT -5
There's only two for the WWE title. Andre back in 1988 and Bryan tonight. Also Cena at Elimination Chamber, in a certain sense Punk at 2011's SummerSlam, and Yokozuna. And Mysterio's one hour reign was almost as bad.
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Post by BRV on Aug 18, 2013 22:15:46 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who thinks this could be good for Daniel Bryan. I think the crowd will get behind him even more now and they were going apeshit for him before. Yes, champion Orton isn't exactly the most intriguing thing around and it's annoying that HHH is now the most over heel but I can see Bryan gaining even more momentum over the next few months and then he wins the title again at WMXXX. Good? I think it's the best possible thing for Daniel Bryan. He beat John Cena clean in the middle of the ring, as clean as anyone has beaten Cena in almost a decade. No outside interference, no shady officiating, no foreign objects, he pinned Cena clean as a whistle, and aside from The Rock at WrestleMania XXVIII, I truly can't recall the last time that happened. Yet I digress. He beat Cena clean, then got cheated out of his hard-earned WWE Championship by an unscrupulous official and an underhanded snake. He won the title, beat Cena, and yet he still has the chase, and isn't that what pro wrestling is all about? The thrill of the chase leading to the satisfying conclusion. We got a taste of it tonight, but when Bryan finally does get his victory back, possibly on the grandest stage in the industry, at WrestleMania, and there's nobody around to spoil it, then it'll really soak in. The only thing that I don't like about this result is that it will lead to more endless Triple H and McMahon funny business. I would've much rather preferred a spiteful Cena, bitter about losing his title, turns on Bryan, allowing Orton to capitalize on the opportunity. But whatever, the company now has the most over babyface they've had in a while chasing a champion who will be one of their most hated heels, who is being supported by the corporate machinations. It's got money written all over it. Just keep Kevin Nash and his self-texting ass out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 22:15:46 GMT -5
If you're mad at this, but cheered Batista going over Cena at Elimination Chamber 2010, then congratulations...you have preferences. My main reaction on that one was, "Okay, but why does this feud need the title? It was doing fine without it." That being said, while I'm very much disappointed, I am willing to see where this goes since outside of just Bryan walking away with the title it's the best option present. Worst would have been the same but with Cena being the one cashed in on.
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 18, 2013 22:15:47 GMT -5
I think they're gonna do the long build to Bryan winning the belt back at Mania (just like the Austin title win and build leading to Mania 15). All we need is a Corporation for Bryan to run through until he reaches the top of the mountain. WHo are we putting in this HHH-Orton stable?
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Post by g1megatronfan on Aug 18, 2013 22:16:10 GMT -5
I imagine some are happy. I'm just not patient enough to sit through months of heel Orton and Triple H to see Bryan get his big moment.
Interest killed for me.
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Post by Lancers on Aug 18, 2013 22:16:28 GMT -5
Best thing for Bryan's career right now is to be the top face in the company chasing a Vince McMahon-endorsed heel. But doesn't it require for him to come out on top? Because knowing the consistency of WWE booking, my belief is that the honor will be bestowed upon Cena to end Triple H's reign of terra.
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Post by Young Game on Aug 18, 2013 22:16:32 GMT -5
Wait wait wait...did The Brian Kendrick hold the Title longer than Daniel Bryan?
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Aug 18, 2013 22:16:45 GMT -5
I have said this so many times, but I'll say it again. The MITB has ruined far more stories than it has helped. You can't have a "the boyhood dream has come true!" moment for it. So many wrestlers have had their first title reign via the thing, and now one of them is ruined by it. I imagine some are happy. I'm just not patient enough o sit through months of heel Orton and Triple H to see Bryan get his big moment. Interest killed for me. This. I'm so tired of sitting through months of crap just for some "payoff" that's fleeting at best. What's so wrong with somebody other than Cena being the good-guy fighting champ? They -almost- got there with Punk, but couldn't go through with it.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Aug 18, 2013 22:17:13 GMT -5
All hail our new cooperate champ!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 18, 2013 22:17:28 GMT -5
I'm really excited about this. Bryan beat Cena clean as a whistle (something they never let Punk do in 2011), a stale character like Randy Orton finally has a new direction and a purpose, we're seemingly getting a new Corporation, and Daniel Bryan now joins John Cena and CM Punk in top babyface status. This is great. I'll be glue to my seat from now on for sure.
Now, if they make Bryan an afterthought and don't follow this through with Bryan getting his big victory over the McMahon empire, then it'll be a waste. Until then, I'm way looking forward to this.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Aug 18, 2013 22:17:38 GMT -5
Best thing for Bryan's career right now is to be the top face in the company chasing a Vince McMahon-endorsed heel. Wholeheartedly agree. The worst thing for Bryan would be to be billed a "fighting champion" and defend against Ryback at Night of Champions in the 3rd to last match and get blamed for low buyrates.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 18, 2013 22:17:48 GMT -5
It was pretty obvious if Bryan won he was getting cashed in on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 22:18:26 GMT -5
You know, I'm just disappointed The Shield wasn't involved. I dunno. Maybe Raw will come around, DBD will be pissed and try to get at them...but that's when we find out The Shield is now in their corner. I'd just like to see those guys with some direction.
The main event happened about how I expected it, except Hunner going heel two years too late doesn't matter all that much to me. We'll see Bryan chase Orton to finally get that win and reign. Maybe.
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Post by CM Dazz on Aug 18, 2013 22:19:01 GMT -5
I don't know what happened to the other thread, so I'll post this in here: (good thing I coppied it before I posted it!)
Ending came as a surprise with Bryan using a new finisher, unless he used it on Smackdown that I didn't watch, or on Raw & I missed it. Sucks Bryan lost, but it makes sense to have him chase Orton.
Bryan's going to be over like a motherf***er from here on out, even moreso than he already is. He's going to get soooo much sympathy face heat, he may as well be the sun. Like I said as much as I don't like Bryan winning, then losing, it does make sense in the grand scheme of things.
Begrudgingly I say, Well done WWE!
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Post by BigBadZ on Aug 18, 2013 22:19:40 GMT -5
WWE's summer policy is to build up the fans for one guy/angle and then have Triple H step all over it because he is a bigger superstar than Austin, Rock, Andre, and Hogan ever could dream.
Now we have Orton as champ, which isn't a bad thing. He hasn't been in the championship picture in a long time. However, that goes right out the window because it's going to be all about Triple H once again.
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