Divas and Rest holds

[Dshuks]

Why do they use so many in their matches? They completely kill the crowd and waste time in their already short matches. They aren't even particularly cool looking submissions either and they use the same ones in every match.

For example AJ uses the cravate, and sleeper hold submissions in pretty much every match. Compare her to someone like Gail Kim in TNA who switches up the submissions she uses in different matches.

I don't know why they can't just use other moves ( neckbreakers, ddts, etc, or heck make the matches more back and forth instead of having dead periods in the middle where nothing really happens.

[Richard]

I've been finding this annoying for a while. Even worse since AJ abandoned a lot of her move set this year for them (which, by the way, of all the moves to adopt from Ziggler, she chose his absolute worst). She already has two cool submissions in the bridging backhammer (which she rarely uses) and Black Widow, she doesn't really need more of them.

I'm surprised no one has said anything to them yet, but even then you'd think they'd realize it on their own.

[PKO]

It must be an agent telling them to do it because all the heel divas have been doing it recently. Who is the current divas agent, Road Dogg? Or was that just for Total Divas?

Whoever it is needs to cut it out. It's terrible for the pacing of matches, and it's a bore to watch. It was particularly bad on Monday when AJ and Naomi were reduced to about two submission moves and not much else.

[Mozenrath]

With some of the girls, they probably have bad cardio or are not trusted to do much else right. I do wish they would cut back on it a little.

As for AJ, it makes sense she would not do many varied submissions if she is going to just end the match with her submission finisher, anyway, more often not not.

[Dshuks]

Aug 21, 2013 20:16:23 GMT -5 @spindoc said:

Yo! I'm glad somebody else brought this up because I've noticed it a lot recently. It's not just in divas matches either, it seems like almost every match on Raw for the last few weeks (give or take) has had the same rest hold applied up to 3 times during the match for no reason other than padding. Watch Brie vs Natalya from SS for a good example of what we're talking about.

Yeah but the other matches on Raw are longer. With divas rest holds are a big problems because there matches are so short to begin with.

It's such a shame because sometimes a Divas match actually has some decent parts to it and is starting gain some momentum, and then they kill it by using the same rest holds over and over again.
boring basic
Like that Brie vs Natalya match you mentioned if you take out the bring basic rest holds it was actually a pretty fun match , one of Brie's better matches since coming back. But using the same rest hold over and over again just killed it.

[Dshuks]

Aug 21, 2013 20:26:52 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

With some of the girls, they probably have bad cardio or are not trusted to do much else right. I do wish they would cut back on it a little.

As for AJ, it makes sense she would not do many varied submissions if she is going to just end the match with her submission finisher, anyway, more often not not.

Only girls that might be true abot would be the ones that really suck like Aksanna ,and Rosa.

The Bellas, Alicia,Kailtyn, Natalya,Naomi, and AJ have all had relatively long matches that were at a fast pace , and didn't rely on rest holds.

Which makes me think this is more a mandate from the higher ups who as past divas ( Michelle Mccool, Gail) have said don't really want the divas to have good matches.

[Cronant]

Maxine would have loved it. She was female Randy Orton with her rest holds.