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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 25, 2013 6:06:29 GMT -5
What's going to happen is aj wears sunglasses and a suit and smiles as stin puts him over saying he finally did the right thing, and aj talks about seeing the light. Then they brawl with a8
That is all
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 25, 2013 6:41:03 GMT -5
I just hope that we get an explanation from AJ that is half as good as some of the explanations in this thread. I really hope TNA "borrows" some of the explanations.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 20:56:34 GMT -5
I hope that he turned so suddenly because MEM was blackmailing him with evidence that he was having an affair with Dixie Carter.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 25, 2013 21:23:13 GMT -5
I hope that he turned so suddenly because MEM was blackmailing him with evidence that he was having an affair with Dixie Carter. Just so we can go full circle with goofy AJ storylines, have it be revealed that he married Karen Jarrett again.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Aug 25, 2013 21:24:46 GMT -5
I hope that he turned so suddenly because MEM was blackmailing him with evidence that he was having an affair with Dixie Carter. Just so we can go full circle with goofy AJ storylines, have it be revealed that he married Karen Jarrett again. Then he turns on sting this week
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 25, 2013 21:29:30 GMT -5
I hope that he turned so suddenly because MEM was blackmailing him with evidence that he was having an affair with Dixie Carter. Just so we can go full circle with goofy AJ storylines, have it be revealed that he married Karen Jarrett again. And he is aligned with Vince Russo again.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 25, 2013 21:34:46 GMT -5
Shh...we all hate TNA. Kayfabe, brother. Kayfabe. My bad. I missed the last couple of TNA Haters meetings, so I'm not up on what we're currently ripping for no reason. To be fair, there does seem to be a few people on this forum & other places(moreso elsewhere)that do seem to have that attitude of hating & trashing everything TNA does just because it's TNA.
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Post by grunt on Aug 25, 2013 21:58:49 GMT -5
Nah, that's because they care about TNA and want the company to succeed, silly.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 25, 2013 22:02:09 GMT -5
My bad. I missed the last couple of TNA Haters meetings, so I'm not up on what we're currently ripping for no reason. To be fair, there does seem to be a few people on this forum & other places(moreso elsewhere)that do seem to have that attitude of hating & trashing everything TNA does just because it's TNA. I agree 100%. There are people that do that. The problem is that the minority gets painted as the majority. Can we please drop this? I seriously don't want have this tired ass argument again so this thread can get locked.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 25, 2013 22:10:27 GMT -5
That's the thing, though: the image of Aces and Eights seeming like an unbreakable bulwark defending champion Bully Ray, with other TNA forces (even the MEM) unable to get rid of them, with only "lone wolf" AJ Styles as the savior...it's a good, effective, climactic image. It's such a big reason why "Crow Sting" worked so well when WCW did it, because from the ashes of a fallen army, a lone hero stood up to defeat ultimate evil (let's ignore the botched ending for the time being, shall we?). With this, the tension is gone. If this carries over to next week, and AJ is siding with the Mafia...then what makes him any different from them? What would be the difference between AJ, Magnus, or Joe getting the title shot? It'd be the same storyline for all three of them, with some minor differences around the edges. . Yeah, I've got to agree with this. Though they also partially screwed up the Crow Sting story they were building already by having Bully lose to Sabin. Not unrecoverably so. But the lone hero build works better when no it looks like no one can stop the bad guy. Luger beat Hogan before Sting did.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 25, 2013 22:12:06 GMT -5
yeah it was mentioned before, I didn't respond but I forgot about it.
but I think my point still stands even without the original to back it up <_< >_>
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Aug 25, 2013 23:22:21 GMT -5
I am... not mad? There are a lot of factors, and it had a cool visual, and I would have preferred it at BFG myself.
I would prefer that A.J. sticks an admixture of his lone wolf moveset, and the Phenomenal 1, buuut I understand if he didn't. If just because he is 36, and the lone wolf style could enable him to extend his career.
Otherwise, you've Angle, the Contract Negotiations, and who knows what else, so yeah, no ideal, but TNA has shown a good ability to explain what has happened, and that will only help this situation.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 25, 2013 23:36:30 GMT -5
To be fair, there does seem to be a few people on this forum & other places(moreso elsewhere)that do seem to have that attitude of hating & trashing everything TNA does just because it's TNA. I agree 100%. There are people that do that. The problem is that the minority gets painted as the majority. Can we please drop this? I seriously don't want have this tired ass argument again so this thread can get locked. I never said it was the majority, I agree it's the minority, just saying that those people do exist.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 25, 2013 23:38:16 GMT -5
I am... not mad? There are a lot of factors, and it had a cool visual, and I would have preferred it at BFG myself. I would prefer that A.J. sticks an admixture of his lone wolf moveset, and the Phenomenal 1, buuut I understand if he didn't. If just because he is 36, and the lone wolf style could enable him to extend his career. Otherwise, you've Angle, the Contract Negotiations, and who knows what else, so yeah, no ideal, but TNA has shown a good ability to explain what has happened, and that will only help this situation. I could see his wrestling style being a combo of those 2, occasionally break out the high flying stuff but also do the hard hitting offense(like he did this week with his awesome strikes combo).
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Aug 25, 2013 23:43:31 GMT -5
I am... not mad? There are a lot of factors, and it had a cool visual, and I would have preferred it at BFG myself. I would prefer that A.J. sticks an admixture of his lone wolf moveset, and the Phenomenal 1, buuut I understand if he didn't. If just because he is 36, and the lone wolf style could enable him to extend his career. Otherwise, you've Angle, the Contract Negotiations, and who knows what else, so yeah, no ideal, but TNA has shown a good ability to explain what has happened, and that will only help this situation. I could see his wrestling style being a combo of those 2, occasionally break out the high flying stuff but also do the hard hitting offense(like he did this week with his awesome strikes combo). I want his strike combo to have my babies.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 26, 2013 8:51:48 GMT -5
I don't think the whole lone wolf anti hero act was working for AJ. The thing about Sting to me was that he was obviously never joining the Aces and Eights, but he wasn't having a bunch of matches against WCW babyfaces either the way AJ has been in TNA. The irony is that the crowd I was with at the Destination X show mostly just treated AJ like a face anyway, so it's not like they were responding to him as this ambiguous tweener.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Aug 26, 2013 12:47:58 GMT -5
I'm kind of stuck on this one. On one hand it needed more build but on the other TNA had to deal with Angle's rehab throwing the whole angle out of sync. They needed to turn AJ soon, doing it after he's won the BFG Series wouldn't really have worked in my opinion because he wouldn't have the great crowd support. I would've turned him maybe a week or two before No Surrender so not far in the future at all. They also needed to build it up more but not so much that it was obvious he was gonna turn.
Conclusion? TNA were stuck between a rock and a hard place, I think they did the best they could with a relatively shitty situation. Plus, I'll give them kudos for the awesome "Evil Ways" to "Get Ready To Fly" change which was epic. If they follow up on this with a decent explanation I think everything will be fine and we'll still have (hopefully) an awesome swell of crowd support for AJ towards the end of the BFG Series. This should, in theory, make for a much more enjoyable and better received redemption story than Hardy's last year.
If they don't have him win and beat Bully Ray for the title then I'll call this a mistake but until they screw that up I'm adopting the classic "wait and see" approach.
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Post by Error on Aug 29, 2013 22:26:06 GMT -5
So he went from Crow AJ only out for money and the title to CM Styles who hates TNA and Dixie but wants to win the title to better the company. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 23:19:52 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get the transformation thing at all now, because he's just as emo as ever. Totally lost the crowd during his promo tonight too. No one cared at all about the worked-shoot nature of it, and seemed annoyed by what a whiner he was being. He tried to relate to the crowd with "you guys have all had a job that just SUCKS", but he's a famous wealthy pro wrestler so that fell pretty flat.
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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 29, 2013 23:59:51 GMT -5
Matt Freaking Hardy
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