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Post by xCompackx on Aug 24, 2013 17:30:32 GMT -5
Too bad that Brock has beaten the hell out of him for the most part. I don't mind that if the progression of the story means that Punk will have another chance at Brock and will be more prepared to focus on Lesnar and deal with Heyman afterwards. I think that would work well. It's like a video game that has an impossible to defeat boss early on and then you build up to facing it a second time at the end and win. ...Or something. But yeah, it makes sense if that's where they're going.
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Post by Chip on Aug 24, 2013 17:50:37 GMT -5
I don't know about you but it makes good sense to me. Punk starts with Lesnar because that's the prime kill, but he can't beat him because he is too blinded by the hate for Paul Heyman. Since he loses, he is forced to start the journey from scratch... going against Curtis Axel, and eventually working up to a rematch with Lesnar to beat him by keeping his anger against Paul in check. It's kinda interesting how both Punk and Bryans storyline have seen them reach their peak within that storyline to opposite degrees of success and yet both were unceremoniously booted from the top of the mountain and forced to climb their way back up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 18:04:42 GMT -5
I don't mind that if the progression of the story means that Punk will have another chance at Brock and will be more prepared to focus on Lesnar and deal with Heyman afterwards. I think that would work well. It's like a video game that has an impossible to defeat boss early on and then you build up to facing it a second time at the end and win. ...Or something. But yeah, it makes sense if that's where they're going. I don't think that's necessarily where they were going with it as much as Brock's schedule forced them to go that route. In the meantime we're stuck with Curtis Axel acting like a threat. It's just such a dropoff is the big problem with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:09:23 GMT -5
Anything that could help the IC title's prestige is okay with me.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 24, 2013 22:45:45 GMT -5
I too am perplexed at what they are doing with Punk. The idea of RVD turning and joining Heyman is something I threw out there for MITB, and ironically Heyman almost indirectly did help RVD win the briefcase (Orton got the last laugh). This idea for Punk/Axel is just bad news. If Punk wins, so what? He's IC champ. Blah. If he jobs, he's jobbing to Curtis Axel after spending all year jobbing anyway. Much like the RVD/Ambrose US title match, this almost has to be a DQ. Maybe Punk just beats him up with a chair or the belt, etc. Lesnar will likely be back to HIAC, won't he? How else can the feud end?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 22:53:24 GMT -5
I don't necessarily think Bryan is being cast as the "rebel" so much as he is the "guy going to prove he belongs by going through everyone HHH puts up against him". Bryan isn't the type who wants to watch the world burn, and I hope they don't try to book him that way. He doesn't have the ego to pull it off. As far as "Punk should be the one", Eh. His "this company sucks, everyone sucks but me" shtick would bury the rest of the roster too much, even more than they already are. He is a rebel, but not a "want to watch the world burn" one, by any stretch. He's a rebel in that he could, and would, go back to the indys and be a God there, and continue his wrestling career without WWE. Punk was all about changing WWE, but Bryan just doesn't want WWE to change him.
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Post by RAW IS GWAR on Aug 31, 2013 8:49:12 GMT -5
Curtis Axel is a damn fine competitor
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 31, 2013 16:39:18 GMT -5
Axel has more victories over Triple H than Punk does, he's wasting his time with small fry like Punk.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 31, 2013 16:43:07 GMT -5
Curtis Axel's purpose is to keep Heyman on TV when Brock's not around.
There's nothign else for Punk to do. He can't be put in the Corporation Angle because then he'd steal Bryan's thunder and undermine the purpose of THAT story. And he can't go after the World Heavyweight Title because at this point that would be blatantly admitting that they're struggling to keep Punk relevant. The worst thing that can happen to Punk is to become another interchangeable "main eventer" type who gets thrown into random stuff just for the sake of getting him on TV because he's "too big to not be doing anything".
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 31, 2013 16:47:04 GMT -5
Punk is feuding with Heyman. Axel is just the muscle. Could have been anyone really. It's a temporary situation anyway. Soon enough either Brock will return, or Punk's feud with Heyman should transfer over to Corporation angle, with Heyman joining them, and Punk joining the rebels.
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Post by Abadebe on Aug 31, 2013 16:47:09 GMT -5
I like the idea of Ryback being a new Heyman guy and costing Punk the match against Axel. Putting Ryback with Heyman will give Punk something to do other than face Axel over and over again until Brock returns. There's also a bit of history with Ryback and Punk that they can bring up (Punk never did beat Ryback clean). Lastly, having Heyman talk for him can cover up Ryback's promo weaknesses.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 31, 2013 16:54:01 GMT -5
Ryback desperately needs something. This Big Bully Ryback character is the shits. Heyman can save his WWE career.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 31, 2013 17:02:34 GMT -5
Ryback desperately needs something. This Big Bully Ryback character is the shits. Heyman can save his WWE career. Bully Ryback actually has a gimmick. Why put him with Heyman and risk branding him as a Poor Man's Brock Lesnar after they went through the trouble of trying to get the Poor Man's Goldberg label off of him?
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