mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 25, 2013 22:25:57 GMT -5
Any of the sort of matches where you don't actually beat you opponent so much as you push them over a line, or put them in something (I don't include ladder matches, since the way they're done does create a proper sense of achievement for the winner) So any ambulance, casket, stretcher sort of gimmick always comes off lame because it doesn't settle anything. The winner didn't actually beat the opponent so much as they completed an overly contrived test. if you can't stand up off a stretcher then you're beaten
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Post by bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun on Aug 26, 2013 0:05:48 GMT -5
I don't think I ever really cared for the First Blood match.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Aug 26, 2013 0:44:32 GMT -5
Inferno/Ring of Fire matches.
The Bray Wyatt vs. Kane match at Summerslam didn't help.
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Post by agent817 on Aug 26, 2013 1:09:04 GMT -5
I don't like Inferno Matches. It just seems too dangerous and whoever loses is more than likely clothed more with some flame retardant apparel. Plus, that type of match is better suited for a movie or a video game. When the inferno match was in "Def Jam Fight For NY," that was actually appropriate for a game like that.
Also, I was never crazy about strap matches, though I can make an exception to Austin vs. Vega in 1996 or even the Texas Bullrope match at Great American Bash 2004.
I never really liked First Blood matches either. While I can say that Austin vs. Kane or Austin vs. Undertaker were sort of entertaining, I like seeing blood as a means of adding intensity to a match, but imagine if someone bleeds hardway and the person isn't supposed to lose. What goes on then?
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Post by fw91 on Aug 26, 2013 1:16:15 GMT -5
pg era hell in a cell matches, with the exception of hhh/undertaker
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Post by nate5054 on Aug 26, 2013 1:22:10 GMT -5
2 out of 3 Falls is stupid too. Both wrestlers get falls and they happen so quickly it's not different from a regular match. Has anyone ever won 2 straight in best two of three match?
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Post by Dang! on Aug 26, 2013 1:35:34 GMT -5
Bra & Panties: Most useless and boring type of match. Girls who are pretty much walking around in underwear anyway in some kind of fetish match with no redeeming quality. If your show isn't rated R (at least) don't even think about ever having a match like this.
I can't think of ANY other match as stupid, useless and boring as WWE type B&P matches. King's commentary makes them even worse. It's like puking diarrhea on a giant elephant turd.
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Post by Topher is Human on Aug 26, 2013 3:38:39 GMT -5
2 out of 3 Falls is stupid too. Both wrestlers get falls and they happen so quickly it's not different from a regular match. Has anyone ever won 2 straight in best two of three match? MVP vs Benoit at Backlash 2007 I believe.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 26, 2013 5:58:15 GMT -5
For most of these matches they have produced at least one good one. I can't think of a good chairs match admittedly but there's only been like 4(?) of those. I present to you...a good __________ on a pole match; Hart Foundation vs Stone Cold, Dude Love, UndertakerCan't think of a good inferno match admittedly. EDIT; Watched the flag match again, while the crowd is hot it's actually a bit of a clusterf***. Also, not WWE but The Briscoes have won many 2 out of 3 falls matches in ROH by getting 2 straight falls.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 6:11:54 GMT -5
Any of the sort of matches where you don't actually beat you opponent so much as you push them over a line, or put them in something (I don't include ladder matches, since the way they're done does create a proper sense of achievement for the winner) So any ambulance, casket, stretcher sort of gimmick always comes off lame because it doesn't settle anything. The winner didn't actually beat the opponent so much as they completed an overly contrived test. if you can't stand up off a stretcher then you're beaten That's the idea in theory, but usually the person just gets punched or hit with a finisher or something directly next to the line then pushed across. Hardly beating the person into unconsciousness. 2 out of 3 Falls is stupid too. Both wrestlers get falls and they happen so quickly it's not different from a regular match. Has anyone ever won 2 straight in best two of three match? Flair did in his match with Foley, offhand. Damn was that feud one-sided.
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Post by fazzle on Aug 26, 2013 6:57:35 GMT -5
Lumberjack matches. There's never been a good Lumberjack match and likely never will be. Eh, I'd say Edge/Jericho vs Cena/Bret with Nexus as the Lumberjacks. The match itself wasn't any good, but it told a really nice story.
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Post by Rave on Aug 26, 2013 8:29:11 GMT -5
Any match that can be described with multiple names but ends up being the exact same stipulation anyway. So street fight/falls count anywhere/no holds barred/no DQ matches. It's the same match. Pick one name and just stick with it.
Cage matches. I went to a house show when Kane and Shane McMahon were feuding. They had a cage match. The cage was so damn flimsy I thought it was going to fall apart. It took forever to put up, took forever to take down, the door came off way too easily, and the finish was just Kane grabbing Shane's shirt while he was hung up over the outside and him slipping out of it. It was bad. I also hate that you can go out the door. Doesn't stop one of my favorite matches being AMW/XXX from Turning Point '04, though.
I groan when I hear the words "John Cena" and "table match" together.
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Post by sunnytaker on Aug 26, 2013 11:25:06 GMT -5
All of them. Except Battle Royals. was pretty much was i was coming to post- though Hell in a cell is still ok now that i think about it. oh and battle royals i still like even though 95% of the time it's always 2-3 heels vs 1 face at the end. i think regular cage matches are losing their luster because we've been seeing more of them and they're not serving as feud enders anymore like they used to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 11:32:48 GMT -5
After reading this thread I realise I dislike my nostalgic love of gimmick matches than my nostalgic idiot love of Mousetrap. One match type that has 100% success for entertainment is the Duchess of Queensbury rules, cleanse your pallet with that.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Aug 26, 2013 14:38:37 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Iron Man matches Me either. I'd rather the match just go an hour "naturally," as opposed to going an hour as a stipulation.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 26, 2013 14:42:01 GMT -5
pg era hell in a cell matches, with the exception of hhh/undertaker That drama club performance of a HIAC match was pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 14:46:22 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Iron Man matches Me either. I'd rather the match just go an hour "naturally," as opposed to going an hour as a stipulation. I feel the same way, but it's hard to do that nowadays. Unless it's a match at the beginning or middle of Raw or something, if it's on PPV you're kind of tipped off already if the main event starts at 9:45 or so
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Aug 26, 2013 16:22:21 GMT -5
Too many 3 and 4 man matches for the title:
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Post by edgestar on Aug 26, 2013 16:40:05 GMT -5
Custody of Dominic matches.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Aug 26, 2013 16:43:13 GMT -5
handicap inferno
are almost guaranteed sucktastic
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