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Post by kamero00 on Aug 26, 2013 22:35:18 GMT -5
I'm liking it so far, but the whole angle can easily turn to shit depending on how it all ends. Orton has gone out on top 4 shows in a row now. That NEVER happened to The Rock or Austin.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 26, 2013 22:36:35 GMT -5
it also didn't help that most of the heels were putting on their best "Owen Hart" faces, implying they didn't like it either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:37:02 GMT -5
I like the opening segment and the ending. The D-Bry vandalizing the car wasn't that great though. Overall, it's still going good though. I wasn't thrilled with the car stuff. I try not to make too many comparisons with this angle and Austin vs. McMahon, and judge this angle on its own merits as an wrestler vs. authority angle, but the escalade bit really did just feel like "well, Daniel, you're getting the singles megastar push package, this is part of the deal". It just felt really shoehorned. That being said I thought it was at least pulled off pretty well, the reveal of the word yes, and Daniel subsequently parading around the sea of yeses was pretty clever and fit the character. Boring, predictable, too organized. What it needed was for the 40 people there to rebel anyway. Triple H tries to fire them but they threaten unparalleled, unending harm on him if he does. They show no fear to him and his stooges. And they keep coming back and harassing him. And now he has to deal with this monstrosity while still trying to keep Bryan away from the WWE title. I think it's in WWE's best interest to keep this from getting bigger than it needs to be. At the heart of this, it's about getting Bryan over, I thought it was really weak last week to have the roster standing there doing nothing, with no established reasoning why they can't just revolt against the machine. They did this week what they should have done last week in threatening their jobs in exchange for any kind of retaliation. They need to keep going this direction IMO, keep picking on Bryan, while controlling the masses that take issue with his treatment. It would just be too hasty to have this become an all out war on week 2 of the angle. It needs to be a slowburn. That's not to say other wrestlers can't benefit from this angle, I think eventually you can have controlled rebellions trickle in. Let Dolph get in on the action, and Big Show, and whoever else might make sense going forward. I still think WWE are on the right track with this
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Post by BigWill on Aug 26, 2013 22:37:08 GMT -5
It's too early for any of that. The storyline's only been going on for 8 days. There's no point in rushing to the climax for an angle that'll probably last at least until Survivor Series. Also the heels shouldn't be rebelling at all. They should be happy with the way things turned out. To be the lapdogs of a guy who despite his power can't protect himself? No one could possibly be so dumb as align themselves with someone who's losing when there's no way to win and they gain nothing from it by winning. I'm not saying for them to align themselves with Triple H. But they have no reason to help out Daniel Bryan either. The whole thing really has nothing to do with them. I'm liking it so far, but the whole angle can easily turn to shit depending on how it all ends. Orton has gone out on top 4 shows in a row now. That NEVER happened to The Rock or Austin. Good. I'm not sure why you'd want an exact rehashing of a storyline that happened over 10 years ago anyway.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 26, 2013 22:39:27 GMT -5
So damn boring. Rehash of the same angles they've been playing out for the last fifteen years. Bleh.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 26, 2013 22:40:15 GMT -5
Again, they've shown that Orton and Triple H have absolutely nothing to fear from Bryan for the 3rd time in a row.
Bryan can kick ass in gauntlet matches? That's nice. Too bad it's not doing a thing in terms of getting Bryan any closer to Orton or Triple H.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:41:35 GMT -5
To be the lapdogs of a guy who despite his power can't protect himself? No one could possibly be so dumb as align themselves with someone who's losing when there's no way to win and they gain nothing from it by winning. I'm not saying for them to align themselves with Triple H. But they have no reason to help out Daniel Bryan either. The whole thing really has nothing to do with them. Attacking Triple H and injuring him =/= helping Bryan. You concuss him and put him in the hospital, and he's suddenly not the COO anymore. Or at least, not effective enough. Or better yet, you threaten to do that to him, and he cowers in your presence and gives you whatever you want. What heel wouldn't want to have the level of power that's tantamount to being able to force their boss to blow them on command? Enslaving someone is like, the ultimate level of evil. Or it can just be ambition. Or trying to take advantage of some chaos. That's just the thing, such a pathway can have a laundry list of potential motivations ranging from person to person. You can get everyone involved with their own goals. Just keep Bryan at the center because he's the one chasing the title. But he might be victim to a few attacks from chaos-embracing heels as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:42:06 GMT -5
I'm liking it so far, but the whole angle can easily turn to shit depending on how it all ends. Orton has gone out on top 4 shows in a row now. That NEVER happened to The Rock or Austin. Bryan is still being built to that point. The only risk that the E is running is waiting too long to pull the pin really. So hopefully they don't screw it up. As fr the HHH revolt, the shady heels should be trying to join up with him and HHH should be trying to absorb as many to his side as he can.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:42:55 GMT -5
Orton has gone out on top 4 shows in a row now. That NEVER happened to The Rock or Austin. Bryan is still being built to that point. The only risk that the E is running is waiting too long to pull the pin really. So hopefully they don't screw it up. Just remember the Punk angle that got cut off at the knees through the introduction of Kevin Nash.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 26, 2013 22:44:53 GMT -5
Bryan is still being built to that point. The only risk that the E is running is waiting too long to pull the pin really. So hopefully they don't screw it up. Just remember the Punk angle that got cut off at the knees through the introduction of Kevin Nash. Or the Brock Lesnar HHH angle. Or the Orton HHH angle. Or the 2009 DX Reunion. Recent HHH storylines have a high probability of being lame and somehow mostly benefitting HHH. Oh I'm a hater for saying that but I'm sorry it's the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:45:29 GMT -5
Just remember the Punk angle that got cut off at the knees through the introduction of Kevin Nash. Or the Brock Lesnar HHH angle. Or the Orton HHH angle. Or the 2009 DX Reunion. Recent HHH storylines have a high probability of being lame and somehow mostly benefitting HHH. Oh I'm a hater for saying that but I'm sorry it's the truth. Jesus guys, I said hopefully they don't screw it up!
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Post by Lancers on Aug 26, 2013 22:47:39 GMT -5
So damn boring. Rehash of the same angles they've been playing out for the last fifteen years. Bleh. I'm tired of it too. But this is a company that took off because of it back in '98. The WWE has shown time and again they are not interested in change unless it is absolutely necessary to stay away from complete obscurity or fiscal insolvency. The thing that bothers me the most? That Hunter and Steph aren't even the #1 and #2 in the company depth chart yet. And they've already done the McMahon-Helmsley angle once before 13 YEARS AGO! Are we really gonna see this storyline once every few years for the next 30-40 years? Because that's gonna be a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:49:31 GMT -5
Or the Brock Lesnar HHH angle. Or the Orton HHH angle. Or the 2009 DX Reunion. Recent HHH storylines have a high probability of being lame and somehow mostly benefitting HHH. Oh I'm a hater for saying that but I'm sorry it's the truth. Jesus guys, I said hopefully they don't screw it up! I really don't like WWE and am observing this angle for two purposes, which are actually opposites in terms of how I feel: one is that maybe this turns out just right and makes me watch the show full-time, OR it flops like most storylines Triple H gets involved in and I formally stop watching for another 2-3 years. But...let's be realistic. WWE sucks at doing angles correctly.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 26, 2013 22:52:14 GMT -5
So damn boring. Rehash of the same angles they've been playing out for the last fifteen years. Bleh. I'm tired of it too. But this is a company that took off because of it back in '98. The WWE has shown time and again they are not interested in change unless it is absolutely necessary to stay away from complete obscurity or fiscal insolvency. The thing that bothers me the most? That Hunter and Steph aren't even the #1 and #2 in the company depth chart yet. And they've already done the McMahon-Helmsley angle once before 13 YEARS AGO! Are we really gonna see this storyline once every few years for the next 30-40 years? Because that's gonna be a problem. The Mcmahon grandchildren regime is bound to be just as tedious. Luckily for you and me, we'll be too damned senile for it to make a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:53:15 GMT -5
Jesus guys, I said hopefully they don't screw it up! I really don't like WWE and am observing this angle for two purposes, which are actually opposites in terms of how I feel: one is that maybe this turns out just right and makes me watch the show full-time, OR it flops like most storylines Triple H gets involved in and I formally stop watching for another 2-3 years. But...let's be realistic. WWE sucks at doing angles correctly. I can't vote against D-Bry until they put a bullet in the angle. Until then I'll hope for the best.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Aug 26, 2013 22:54:27 GMT -5
If this culminates in an epic revolt angle, I'd mark the hell right out.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 26, 2013 22:54:45 GMT -5
Even if it doesn't work out as far as getting Bryan over at least there will be entertaining heel promos from HHH. He's so happy to be a heel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:55:13 GMT -5
it also didn't help that most of the heels were putting on their best "Owen Hart" faces, implying they didn't like it either. This was the worst part of it all for me. I hate when WWE just have characters act completely opposite of what they're supposed to just to get another scowling face on TV. They damage the integrity of characters where there's zero reason to. Del Rio being upset that Daniel Bryan's having a hard time only serves as a distraction, it didn't help anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:57:58 GMT -5
it also didn't help that most of the heels were putting on their best "Owen Hart" faces, implying they didn't like it either. This was the worst part of it all for me. I hate when WWE just have characters act completely opposite of what they're supposed to just to get another scowling face on TV. They damage the integrity of characters where there's zero reason to. Del Rio being upset that Daniel Bryan's having a hard time only serves as a distraction, it didn't help anything. Del Rio more than anyone should be trying to get all nice with the new regime, that's what slimy heels do. Why would he make it hard on himself?
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Post by Lancers on Aug 26, 2013 22:59:16 GMT -5
The Mcmahon grandchildren regime is bound to be just as tedious. Luckily for you and me, we'll be too damned senile for it to make a difference. I have a feeling the three sisters decide that they're not into wrestling and decide to sell their shares of the WWE to a Yemeni oil consortium and turns the WWE into foxy boxing. I just hope my dementia doesn't kick in until after that happens. If this culminates in an epic revolt angle, I'd mark the hell right out. They already did that once. They lost confidence in Hunter when the WWE was being ransacked by the formidable tandem of R-Truth and the Miz. They made the Two Man Power Trip look like the Fabulous Rougeau Brothers.
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