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Post by hossfan on Aug 27, 2013 13:32:23 GMT -5
Punk admitted his whole anti-establishment schtick was a sham. How many times is this guy going to change his story?
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 27, 2013 13:32:50 GMT -5
I get the storyline, and it really makes Daniel Bryan a mega star as the only guy who is willing to fight through all these obstacles to get what he wants. And it's also the fact that Bryan has stated he doesn't care if he gets fired. This really makes me like him even more as a babyface, because he's not going to just lie down and take whatever is given to him. But yeah, it is at the expense of the other babyfaces. I mean, sure, the heels don't care, they could laugh at Bryan's misfortune, and they actually have more integrity then the babyfaces.
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Post by theryno665 on Aug 27, 2013 13:35:21 GMT -5
They don't have the Cena spirit. That's cause Cena can't get fired. But what about Big Show's IRON-CLAD CONTRACT?
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Post by Crimson on Aug 27, 2013 13:37:27 GMT -5
.....wait, has Punk been in these roster groups at all? If so, talk about losing your balls. Punk is the modern day Austin in that he's the wildcard who's not going to stick his neck out for anyone and is off in his own world. I don't think Punk will get involved unto Triple H/Orton inevitably target him first.
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Post by Chip on Aug 27, 2013 13:38:33 GMT -5
Given how long and hard people have to work to get into the WWE and the fact that it's a dream from a very young age for a lot of people there I see no issue with people not wanting to get fired. Would you give up your childhood dream to help an insane bearded dude who isn't even getting fired himself? Nothing to gain, everything to lose.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 13:39:30 GMT -5
.....wait, has Punk been in these roster groups at all? If so, talk about losing your balls. Punk is the modern day Austin in that he's the wildcard who's not going to stick his neck out for anyone and is off in his own world. I don't think Punk will get involved unto Triple H/Orton inevitably target him first. I think that the only way he gets involved is if HHH has Paul E./Brock/Axel on assignment to try to destroy him to keep him away as they try to break Bryan.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 27, 2013 13:42:43 GMT -5
Punk is the modern day Austin in that he's the wildcard who's not going to stick his neck out for anyone and is off in his own world. I don't think Punk will get involved unto Triple H/Orton inevitably target him first. I think that the only way he gets involved is if HHH has Paul E./Brock/Axel on assignment to try to destroy him to keep him away as they try to break Bryan. I could definitely see something like that happening.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 13:45:08 GMT -5
.....wait, has Punk been in these roster groups at all? If so, talk about losing your balls. Punk is the modern day Austin in that he's the wildcard who's not going to stick his neck out for anyone and is off in his own world. I don't think Punk will get involved unto Triple H/Orton inevitably target him first. But him just being on the stage smashes his cred quite a bit. If he isn't, and I get why he wouldn't with the Heyman stuff, that's cool as it's probably reserving (and saving) his face for future conflict.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 13:45:31 GMT -5
.....wait, has Punk been in these roster groups at all? If so, talk about losing your balls. To be fair, Punk has been a little preoccupied with the whole Lesnar/Heyman/Axel situation. Throw in how anti-establishment he can be, Punk probably doesn't really care in HHH notices if he's out on the stage or not. They should play it like Triple H is somewhat intimidated by Punk, seeing as Punk had him figured out 2 years ago.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Aug 27, 2013 13:49:21 GMT -5
I cant wait till Punk saves Bryan. I know its going to happen.
Then when Cena comes back, he turns on Punk and the faces, Orton loses to Cena and gets shitcanned.
Punk Vs. Cena WWE Championship Wrestlemania 30 Main event. Punk wins. I go away forever.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 27, 2013 13:57:10 GMT -5
Punk is the modern day Austin in that he's the wildcard who's not going to stick his neck out for anyone and is off in his own world. I don't think Punk will get involved unto Triple H/Orton inevitably target him first. But him just being on the stage smashes his cred quite a bit. If he isn't, and I get why he wouldn't with the Heyman stuff, that's cool as it's probably reserving (and saving) his face for future conflict. Didn't realize that lol. Don't have cable so I didn't watch Raw. Punk shouldn't have been on stage, but he honestly doesn't give 2-shits about anyone except himself so he's still technically still in character.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 27, 2013 14:08:17 GMT -5
Whoever finally steps up is going to get a massive boost. Punk is made so there's no need to use him, Big Show and Henry are pretty old and really quite over. Ziggler may be the best bet.
Just have Ziggler start walking down the aisle, then Big Show, Henry et al follow.
I was itching for Show to KO Triple H last night and I'm really enjoying this angle but there's no way it goes to Wrestlemania, not with Bryan chasing anyway, they've just got too much TV time to fill. He should win it back by Survivor Series.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 14:32:37 GMT -5
Instead of helping out Bryan and getting themselves stupidly fired, a couple of the faces should just band together and maul the Shield backstage. Then the enforcers are out and there's no one to carry out these corporate beatings.
Then if Triple H finds out, they could just be all "Oh snap, Trips. You said we'd get fired if we helped Daniel, but we didn't help Daniel. So... suck it."
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Post by Savage Gambino on Aug 27, 2013 14:38:37 GMT -5
Given how long and hard people have to work to get into the WWE and the fact that it's a dream from a very young age for a lot of people there I see no issue with people not wanting to get fired. Would you give up your childhood dream to help an insane bearded dude who isn't even getting fired himself? Nothing to gain, everything to lose. More to that point, would give up your childhood dream to defend a guy who's been an complete jackhole (and implied emotional abuser) for over a year? Problem with WWE is they don't know how to tell a story (no surprise there). Instead of implying everyone is staying on the stage out of fear, it could be pointed out that some on the stage (Wade Barrett, Teddy Long) are allied with the Administration, some just want to keep their noses clean, and others simply don't like Bryan due to their personal history or whatever other reason. As it played out they only got three perspectives (Big Show, Dolph Ziggler, and The Miz), and none of them came out looking all that well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 15:00:22 GMT -5
Punk admitted his whole anti-establishment schtick was a sham. How many times is this guy going to change his story? They've got options with Punk assuming he gets involved. As much of a self-centered jerk as he can be, he could take personal offense at the idea of the Hunner Administration. He ain't anti-establishment but he did trust Hunner for doing the right things for THIS. BUSINESS. after they had their feud he lost. Maybe he wouldn't like Hunner essentially making a fool out of him after Punk gave him his endorsement. Maybe Punk's anti-establishment thing could really be a sham when he tries to get involved, but Punk makes a deal with the devil to get his hands on Heyman without always having to worry about Axel or BURRRRRROCK LESSSSSNAR. Sure, Punk could hate having to align with Hunner but I don't care how fired up you are, what's the point of dreaming about choking Heyman into unconsciousness when you break your hands from punching your way through the human brick wall that is Lesnar? Or maybe Punk actually would feel a bit of sympathy with Bryan and have his back as a way to redeem himself for not being the anti-establishment rebel he fashioned himself to be. It's totally fantasy booking but there's a couple of things they could do with it to make sense. Yes. Punk getting involved has the added benefit of him overcoming the odds to get his win back over Hunner which would clear the way for DBD to finally get the title longer than a few minutes. That's just a coincidence, y'all.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Aug 27, 2013 16:10:43 GMT -5
Since he's leaving anyway, they should've used this as Ted DiBiase's send off. Have him try to make the save for Bryan only to get beaten down by The Shield and fired. THEN he goes home and waits his contract out. I could have seen that happen maybe if DiBiase had at least made semi regular appearances on TV, similar to what they did with Kozlov. But DiBiase hadn't been on Raw or Smackdown in months, so it would have been pretty strange to have him suddenly show up now. Bryan and Ted Junior go back to NOAH, quite some time before either were signed to the WWE. Then again, given all of about ten people know this, this would not go over on television well. As for Punk, while he did admit his "anti-establishment" thing was a scam, his friendship with Bryan seems to be pretty legit. I could see him saving Bryan sometime in the future, even if just because it's Bryan and for no ulterior reason, with the actual wanting to take down the Corporate Rehash coming later.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Aug 27, 2013 16:13:34 GMT -5
Punk is the modern day Austin in that he's the wildcard who's not going to stick his neck out for anyone and is off in his own world. I don't think Punk will get involved unto Triple H/Orton inevitably target him first. But him just being on the stage smashes his cred quite a bit. If he isn't, and I get why he wouldn't with the Heyman stuff, that's cool as it's probably reserving (and saving) his face for future conflict. Pretty sure he wasn't on stage, unless I missed it. Plus considering how he was injured earlier in the night with the Heyman angle it would have been some really weird selling if he showed up there.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 27, 2013 16:30:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I believe Punk's been absent when they've pulled everyone on stage, unless he was crouching down in the back.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 27, 2013 16:43:54 GMT -5
None of them have much reason to speak out. They won't do it for DB's benefit because they owe him nothing, and most of the roster were doing nothing before the Corporation returned, so doing nothing under the Corporation is hardly going to be a problem.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Aug 27, 2013 17:34:17 GMT -5
I got a good laugh myself when Lawler said the wwe universe doesn't like to be force fed a superstar. Holy shit he actually said that? AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA He sure did. Pot...kettle.....black....to the max
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