When is the best time for D-Bry to beat the New Corporation?

[wisdomwizard]

Some people are already let-down a bit by how the New Corporation angle went down tonight. I'm not one of them, but there have been times in the past with some angles where the heels had the upper hand a bit too long before the face finally beat them. So I want to ask, and keep in mind for the purposes of this discussion that John Cena is NOT coming back to WWE until the whole thing is over, when do you think Bryan should beat Orton, HHH, and Vince and win the WWE Title back? How long would be too long for you?



Personally, I say have Bryan lose at the next few PPVs, win the Rumble, then use that to finally get it back at Wrestlemania. But, let Bryan have the last laugh on half of the RAW and Smackdown episodes like what happened with Stone Cold.

[rnrk supports BLM]

When Cena returns and beats up the Shield and Hunter at ringside and it distracts Orton long enough for Bryan to beat him via rollup.

[Sicho100]

My perfect scenario is Bryan beating Orton for the belt at Mania, the only issue is keeping the angle (and Bryan in particular) hot for the next four months. Basically, they need to be able to stall, but make it seem like they aren't. When you get to January, the booking's easy - Bryan win the rumble, defend the shot in the chamber, beat Orton at Mania. It's a matter of getting there.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

I'd have Orton retain at NOC, then I'd gradually work Ziggler and Ryback into the WWE title hunt along with DBry to keep it from getting tedious. Orton retains in a four way at TLC, then faces Bryan in a solo match at the Rumble, where Cena returns as an enforcer to keep the Shield at bay. Bryan wins the belt back there, then the road to the Big Easy starts.

[wisdomwizard]

Aug 26, 2013 23:40:47 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

When Cena returns and beats up the Shield and Hunter at ringside and it distracts Orton long enough for Bryan to beat him via rollup.

Ahem..... *clears throat.

and keep in mind for the purposes of this discussion that John Cena is NOT coming back to WWE until the whole thing is over

[BorneAgain]

Aug 26, 2013 23:48:19 GMT -5 Sicho100 said:

My perfect scenario is Bryan beating Orton for the belt at Mania, the only issue is keeping the angle (and Bryan in particular) hot for the next four months. Basically, they need to be able to stall, but make it seem like they aren't. When you get to January, the booking's easy - Bryan win the rumble, defend the shot in the chamber, beat Orton at Mania. It's a matter of getting there.

You can build up the growing support Bryan gets from the roster over the next few months. The roster revolts around NOC leading to HHH to make a HIAC match to keep everybody out (with HHH using the Shield against select members of the roster at the PPV) then leading to a big Team Bryan vs. Team Corporate match at Survivor Series. Have Bryan win his right to compete in the Rumble via winning a match at TLC and you're good to go.

[mizerable]

He doesn't have to beat them. He just needs to show that he's not going to be a Welcome mat to this whole "WWE image" crap. Right now, he's playing into everything he's saying. Right now, actions need to speak louder than words, especially words written on a f***in' car.

[SenorCrest]

Aug 26, 2013 23:48:27 GMT -5 BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps said:

I'd have Orton retain at NOC, then I'd gradually work Ziggler and Ryback into the WWE title hunt along with DBry to keep it from getting tedious. Orton retains in a four way at TLC, then faces Bryan in a solo match at the Rumble, where Cena returns as an enforcer to keep the Shield at bay. Bryan wins the belt back there, then the road to the Big Easy starts.

I would get rid of ryback and add Christian. Maybe even bully a lower tier face like Kofi.

["American Nightmare" B.B. Bart]

I want the whole thing to eventually spiral to a revolt partially led by DB, but is ultimately in the hands of another wrestler. This new rebellion would make life hell for the Corporate creeps while DB chases Orton.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Aug 26, 2013 23:49:38 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

Aug 26, 2013 23:40:47 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

When Cena returns and beats up the Shield and Hunter at ringside and it distracts Orton long enough for Bryan to beat him via rollup.

Ahem..... *clears throat.

and keep in mind for the purposes of this discussion that John Cena is NOT coming back to WWE until the whole thing is over

Okay, Sheamus.

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Ideas for basic plans as things stand:

1) Referee refuses to count an Orton tap-out at Night of Champions due to the threat of being fired by Triple H. Orton wins with an RKO OUTTANOWHERE when D-Bry challenges why the referee is making it impossible for him to win.
2) D-Bry is told that because he couldn't beat Orton in a fair match (Triple H promo) he will be put to the back of the line.
3) Team Shield (and one other guy in cahoots with the Corporation) vs Team Bryan (Bryan/Big Show/Ziggler/Christian?) at Survivor Series. Bryan gets the last pin fall. Cues more uprisings against the Corporation from other faces.
4) Have the Corporation make excuses for not giving Bryan shots for the title/throw ludicrous backstage assaults at D-Bry.
5) D-Bry vs Triple H at the Royal Rumble. If Triple H loses then Bryan gets a shot at Orton at Wrestlemania for the title. After Shield/Team Bryan interference, Triple H gets caught in a surprise Yes Lock, Bryan wins.
6) The New Corporation starts to slip, less successful at repressing babyfaces in matches & in promos.
7) A babyface team beats The Shield for the tag belts at 'Mania, Ambrose loses his title too, Bryan beats Orton for the WWE title.

I know it lacks details but as a basic outline it makes sense in my mind.

[SenorCrest]

Aug 26, 2013 23:56:27 GMT -5 @pauledraperously said:

Ideas for basic plans as things stand:

1) Referee refuses to count an Orton tap-out at Night of Champions due to the threat of being fired by Triple H. Orton wins with an RKO OUTTANOWHERE when D-Bry challenges why the referee is making it impossible for him to win.
2) D-Bry is told that because he couldn't beat Orton in a fair match (Triple H promo) he will be put to the back of the line.
3) Team Shield (and one other guy in cahoots with the Corporation) vs Team Bryan (Bryan/Big Show/Ziggler/Christian?) at Survivor Series. Bryan gets the last pin fall. Cues more uprisings against the Corporation from other faces.
4) Have the Corporation make excuses for not giving Bryan shots for the title/throw ludicrous backstage assaults at D-Bry.
5) D-Bry vs Triple H at the Royal Rumble. If Triple H loses then Bryan gets a shot at Orton at Wrestlemania for the title. After Shield/Team Bryan interference, Triple H gets caught in a surprise Yes Lock, Bryan wins.

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6) The New Corporation starts to slip, less successful at repressing babyfaces in matches & in promos.
7) A babyface team beats The Shield for the tag belts at 'Mania, Ambrose loses his title too, Bryan beats Orton for the WWE title.

I know it lacks details but as a basic outline it makes sense in my mind.[/quote]



Yeah, no that will never happen. Like ever.

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Aug 27, 2013 0:02:01 GMT -5 SenorCrest said:

Aug 26, 2013 23:56:27 GMT -5 @pauledraperously said:

Ideas for basic plans as things stand:

1) Referee refuses to count an Orton tap-out at Night of Champions due to the threat of being fired by Triple H. Orton wins with an RKO OUTTANOWHERE when D-Bry challenges why the referee is making it impossible for him to win.
2) D-Bry is told that because he couldn't beat Orton in a fair match (Triple H promo) he will be put to the back of the line.
3) Team Shield (and one other guy in cahoots with the Corporation) vs Team Bryan (Bryan/Big Show/Ziggler/Christian?) at Survivor Series. Bryan gets the last pin fall. Cues more uprisings against the Corporation from other faces.
4) Have the Corporation make excuses for not giving Bryan shots for the title/throw ludicrous backstage assaults at D-Bry.
5) D-Bry vs Triple H at the Royal Rumble. If Triple H loses then Bryan gets a shot at Orton at Wrestlemania for the title. After Shield/Team Bryan interference, Triple H gets caught in a surprise Yes Lock, Bryan wins.

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Yeah, no that will never happen. Like ever.
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Okay, running Kenta knee then, with all the run ins it'd hardly be a clean victory for either guy but redemption for Bryan. Regardless I think Triple H is more than willing to put people over (even if some matches are structured arghly) when he believes it's worthwhile. Plus I saw it in my mind as Benoit catching him at Wrestlemania 20.

[Deleted]

Probably through Survivor Series

I could imagine a VERY solid Corporation vs DBry, Ziggler and others.

Probably finish at the RR. Big blown off match leading into WM where we get Bryan v Cena, this time with Bryan as the conquering hero/champ.

[Deleted]

HHH tapping to the yes lock isn't so laughable, he's tapped to Cena and he who shall not be named in big PPV matches. The Sheamus suggestion is good. Bryan loses at NOC due to the Shield, then enters into a feud with Sheamus who returns heel to refresh his character. DB eventually gets a clean win to put 18 seconds to bed and then wins the rumble to face the corporate champ(who won't be Orton by that time, I reckon HHH or as a SWERVE maybe Cena) at WM.

[BigWill]

Aug 26, 2013 23:54:51 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Aug 26, 2013 23:49:38 GMT -5 wisdomwizard said:

Ahem..... *clears throat.

Okay, Sheamus.

When is Sheamus due back anyway? He'd make for a good filler feud to keep Bryan away from Orton for a while.

[cabbageboy]

Sheamus won't be back until the Rumble. I think they pulled a 2004 Orton here, where Bryan won't be able to sustain any heat or momentum if they drag this all the way to WM. I'm thinking CM Punk steps up and beats Orton at some point, maybe Bryan can win the Rumble and then they can do Punk/Bryan at WM.