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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 1, 2013 18:05:13 GMT -5
Am I wrong in thinking it has to be between the Philadelphia area and Tokyo? There are a bunch of spots that can be called wrestling hotbeds, but what is the single biggest spot?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 18:24:12 GMT -5
Depends if we are talking about the number of promotions in the area or the size of those promotions.
If it's size, maybe Florida, as it has TNA and NXT.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 1, 2013 18:39:22 GMT -5
Depends if we are talking about the number of promotions in the area or the size of those promotions. If it's size, maybe Florida, as it has TNA and NXT. TNA left the Impact Zone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 18:41:27 GMT -5
What about California? WWE always runs there, TNA has ran some cards, and you got PWG and the various other indies.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Sept 1, 2013 18:44:29 GMT -5
What about California? WWE always runs there, TNA has ran some cards, and you got PWG and the various other indies. SoCal might be, but not a lot in NorCal, as far as indies go.
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Post by froggyfrog on Sept 1, 2013 18:47:24 GMT -5
I live in Philadelphia and as much as i want to say it is it doesn't feel like it. These days we have CZW running shows pretty close right over the bridge in NJ, but ROH very rarely comes by anymore even though their HQ is right nearby. Chikara has their school here but they dont run shows atm at least and they haven't been coming to Philly too often before they stopped anyway.
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Post by Talent Name on Sept 1, 2013 18:55:02 GMT -5
What about Mexico, AAA, CMLL, a few other promotions, WWE frequently goes there as well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 19:00:01 GMT -5
What about Mexico, AAA, CMLL, a few other promotions, WWE frequently goes there as well Maybe if you mean Mexico City. Mexico as a nation is way to big to qualify as a hotbed. That's like taking 1/4 of US and call it a hotbed. Kinda defeats the purpose when you're not going more specific. Edit: look at this hotbed, lol
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Post by Talent Name on Sept 1, 2013 19:07:51 GMT -5
What about Mexico City, AAA, CMLL, a few other promotions, WWE frequently goes there as well Maybe if you mean Mexico City. Mexico as a nation is way to big to qualify as a hotbed. That's like taking 1/4 of US and call it a hotbed. Kinda defeats the purpose when you're not going more specific. Edit: look at this hotbed, lol That is what I meant sorry for the misunderstanding
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 1, 2013 19:10:13 GMT -5
An edge and lita live sex celebration in Phoenix?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 22:32:47 GMT -5
Texas strikes me as a wrestling hotbed. WWE and TNA do a lot of TVs and PPVs there, and the crowds are usually rowdy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 22:49:14 GMT -5
It always seemed to me that the entire Appalachian region of the US and down through the Carolinas and Georgia was pro wrestling's main territory here.
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Post by NOwave on Sept 2, 2013 11:27:47 GMT -5
If you consider simply the level of popularity of wrestling per capita, it would be hard to beat the Memphis area from the early 1960s to the early 1990s. For most of those years, Saturday morning wrestling was not just the highest rated show in it's timeslot, it was the highest rated show in that market, period. Wrestling consistently had more viewers than any of the major network shows. And from about 1978-1985, it got MUCH bigger ratings than all other shows in the market, except Superbowls, and the occasional Final Four featuring Memphis State men's basketball.
On top of that, a live wrestling show was held every Monday night from 1958 to the early 1990s. From 1958-1965, it was at the old Ellis Auditorium downtown, and from then on at the Mid South Coliseum,(capacity-12,600). Yes, every Monday night (barring an occasional weather-related move) for over 30 years. Between 1978 and 1985, sales averaged just under 10,000. At the peak(1982-4) they averaged over 11,000, with numerous sellouts.
Jerry Lawler was the most recognizable personality in the city, by far. Jerry Jarrett was recognized as one of the most influential businessmen in the city, along with Fred Smith (Fed Ex-founded 1977) and Abe Plough(Schering-Plough).
It's also amazing how quickly the popularity of the promotion dropped in the late 1990s. Lawler left for the WWF fulltime and Jarrett sold out. It's as if the bottom dropped out, and it's never recovered. Fascinating.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 2, 2013 11:38:38 GMT -5
Yes you are wrong
New York, Chicago, toronto, los angeles
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Post by Toxik916 on Sept 2, 2013 11:53:08 GMT -5
When I think of wrestling hotbeds the first thing I think of is Minnesota. So many great wrestlers are from there or got their start there.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 2, 2013 18:46:44 GMT -5
Texas strikes me as a wrestling hotbed. WWE and TNA do a lot of TVs and PPVs there, and the crowds are usually rowdy. Texas has been mostly dead since the collapse of World Class, and deader after USWA and Global blazed out. Never seemed to recover from that. In the late 90s and early 2000s there was a bit of a resurgence, but an absolute glut of indy promotions - the majority of them bad - torched us again. There's still a few remaining around, but nowhere near as many as before, and the majority only just get by.* The only exception is WWE. They've come full-circle since the 80s, when they couldn't get a foothold in the state no matter how hard they tried. *I have no idea how the lucha stuff is doing in the state. I know it's out there, mostly south and west of me, but don't hear enough about it to know what the crowds are like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 19:03:42 GMT -5
The Illinois/Indiana area right now is booming with promotions...For example DreamWave Wrestling is putting on great shows with up and coming talent and high profile names
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 2, 2013 21:18:01 GMT -5
It depends who you ask. Honestly in the US it's the Northeast region. Philli to NY. People mistake hotbed with promotions and what talent came from there.It's all about what places draw not only a good crowd but has the best energy. Which is a lot of places but very few passed the midwest. Then all over the world it's hard to say because a lot of places who don't get a promotion draw huge or have a high market example India. There is something to be said for TNA doing RKK and the WWE hanging on to The Great Khali for so long.
Over all the hotbeds look like this to me in no order.
-New York -Philli -The Carolinas -Altanta - St. Louis - Chicago -Most of Texas -Most of Florida -Detroit -Most of Canada -Mexico City -Southern Cal. -Tokyo -The UK -India -Germany - Memphis Tenn(Died off a lot) - Poland Oregon (Died off a lot) - Indy (On the raise)
There is a big black hole area between the Mid West to So Cal. AZ is ok area. But it seems if you want a real successful wrestling it's mostly very popular in the east coast to the Mid West. Then it jumps down to So Cal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 22:35:31 GMT -5
In the world, Tokyo. Nowhere else comes close in terms of the number of shows per week, number of different promotions, variety of different wrestlers, attendance average, etc.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Sept 3, 2013 20:51:00 GMT -5
Yes you are wrong New York, Chicago, toronto, los angeles Pretty much this. .
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