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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:32:56 GMT -5
Massive overbooked screwjob at NOC for sure. No way is D-Bry straight up winning in his first real battle with Orton.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 3, 2013 22:33:56 GMT -5
Based on the close of the show, if Bryan doesn't win at Night of Champions.... Man. I will be confused. It's really seeming like the only way to book it at this point. The way it's been written so far if Bryan can't beat Orton at Night of Champions he might as well give up because the situation is just being written too hopelessly. I get making things dire, but it shouldn't be that hard for him to, y'know, know an RKO or triple power bomb is obviously coming and get the hell out of dodge. Yeah I just don't see why I would pay money for another main event PPV match in Oct when all they're going to do is screw him again. So the NOC booking is pretty crucial going forward.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Sept 3, 2013 22:34:12 GMT -5
Wow, Daniel Bryan couldn't beat up 4 guys by himself. Who knew? Seriously, if Bryan had gotten the upper hand on Orton, HHH and The Shield people would have complained it makes them look weak because they can't get the better of one guy. People are always complaining about strong heels, we've got some now. Let's enjoy it and when Bryan finally gets the upper hand, it'll be worth it. This point, it's starting to feel like "if."
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Sept 3, 2013 22:34:57 GMT -5
Does Bryan's new finisher have a name yet? Because for a moment I thought it was literally called "KNEE TO THE FACE" which sounded amazing. "I used to think I could beat Bryan but then I took a knee to the face. " ...That made more sense in my head.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 3, 2013 22:35:10 GMT -5
Massive overbooked screwjob at NOC for sure. No way is D-Bry straight up winning in his first real battle with Orton. Though, I'm thinking there'll be a crazy cliffhanger to not end NOC on a total downer, which would lead in to Raw the following night.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 3, 2013 22:35:42 GMT -5
The problem is that story wise there is zero shot for Bryan to win at the PPV. How on earth is he going to do that? One on one is bad enough but he'll have HHH, Steph, The Shield, and the 5th Cavalry to deal with. At most he gets a DQ win.
It's ominous that RVD is now getting involved in this dreck. I was hoping he would stay away from it, since he's one of the few babyfaces in the company who doesn't look like a hopeless jobber in the booking.
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 3, 2013 22:36:19 GMT -5
Massive overbooked screwjob at NOC for sure. No way is D-Bry straight up winning in his first real battle with Orton. Though, I'm thinking there'll be a crazy cliffhanger to not end NOC on a total downer, which would lead in to Raw the following night. I'm pretty sure either a Big Show turn on the Corporation or the first of the roster revolt occurs at NOC regardless of who wins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:36:22 GMT -5
People are always complaining about strong heels, we've got some now. Let's enjoy it and when Bryan finally gets the upper hand, it'll be worth it. He won't ever get the upperhand though. I can almost guarantee that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:37:24 GMT -5
The problem is that story wise there is zero shot for Bryan to win at the PPV. How on earth is he going to do that? One on one is bad enough but he'll have HHH, Steph, The Shield, and the 5th Cavalry to deal with. At most he gets a DQ win. It's ominous that RVD is now getting involved in this dreck. I was hoping he would stay away from it, since he's one of the few babyfaces in the company who doesn't look like a hopeless jobber in the booking. Basically. How weird is it that the one person - the only one - who has been put into a position of being punished by the Corporation and come out on top is freaking Kofi Kingston?
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 3, 2013 22:37:39 GMT -5
The guy who metaphorically throws the first Molotov to spark the rebellion is gonna get one hell of a pop from the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:38:06 GMT -5
People are always complaining about strong heels, we've got some now. Let's enjoy it and when Bryan finally gets the upper hand, it'll be worth it. He won't ever get the upperhand though. I can almost guarantee that. Yeah because John Cena never got the better of Nexus, because Rey Mysterio never got the better of the SES, because Steve Austin never got the better of The Corporation and so on and so on.... Oh wait.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:38:21 GMT -5
People are always complaining about strong heels, we've got some now. Let's enjoy it and when Bryan finally gets the upper hand, it'll be worth it. He won't ever get the upperhand though. I can almost guarantee that. That's what I'm thinking. Best case scenario, he gets the US title or something. The way it's being written right now, it looks more like it's going to become Punk / Orton through the Rumble then Cena's going to come save the day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:42:21 GMT -5
He won't ever get the upperhand though. I can almost guarantee that. Yeah because John Cena never got the better of Nexus, because Rey Mysterio never got the better of the SES, because Steve Austin never got the better of The Corporation and so on and so on.... Oh wait. Difference being none of those were against Triple H. As top heel before, he feuded with Rob Van Dam, Kane, Shawn Michaels, Scott Steiner, Booker T, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Chris Benoit, Eugene, William Regal, Randy Orton, Edge, Chris Jericho, Batista, Big Show, Ric Flair, John Cena, and probably several others. The only one of those who ever got to come out the complete, decisive winner of their feud was Batista; some might say Cena, but that's ignoring how other than their first match Triple H basically kicked his ass in every single one-on-one encounter they had after that. It's just the way it's being written. If the plan is for Bryan to slowly be built up to getting his revenge, they wouldn't be having him get beaten to a pulp every single week while just waiting for someone to save him, they wouldn't have made him look like a jobber who only survived facing Big Show because Big Show didn't want to end his career, and he wouldn't be getting fed to Orton just under a month after losing the title to him. Clearly this is all building to someone else saving the day for him.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 3, 2013 22:43:21 GMT -5
Well.... WWE are already dropping the ball.
Can they honestly not think of a better or even different ending to the shows than Bryan getting beat down?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:45:22 GMT -5
He won't ever get the upperhand though. I can almost guarantee that. Yeah because John Cena never got the better of Nexus, because Rey Mysterio never got the better of the SES, because Steve Austin never got the better of The Corporation and so on and so on.... Oh wait. The difference is that there was give and take in all of those angles. Orton and HHH haven't looked vulnerable one time since SummerSlam. I like your optimism though.
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Post by Malcolm on Sept 3, 2013 22:52:44 GMT -5
So Bryan gets beaten down again while Orton comes out on top again?
Well there's a Smackdown I'm skipping this week. Seriously, this is already getting old. At least give us a bittersweet outcome.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 3, 2013 22:54:23 GMT -5
He won't ever get the upperhand though. I can almost guarantee that. Yeah because John Cena never got the better of Nexus, because Rey Mysterio never got the better of the SES, because Steve Austin never got the better of The Corporation and so on and so on.... Oh wait. There was give and take in those angles, more aggresion on the faces side who made the heels look like little bitches. Here, the heels are strong but the faces look like little bitches. There's no balance.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 3, 2013 22:54:48 GMT -5
Yeah because John Cena never got the better of Nexus, because Rey Mysterio never got the better of the SES, because Steve Austin never got the better of The Corporation and so on and so on.... Oh wait. The difference is that there was give and take in all of those angles. Orton and HHH haven't looked vulnerable one time since SummerSlam. I like your optimism though. Because Cena never had the odds stacked against him?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 22:58:25 GMT -5
I just don't see the point in watching WWE at all if you don't have a shred of optimism or confidence (NO CONFIDENCE) in the main storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 23:03:02 GMT -5
I just don't see the point in watching WWE at all if you don't have a shred of optimism or confidence (NO CONFIDENCE) in the main storyline. Because, outside of the Bryan and Big Show stuff, I think the storyline is mostly being handled fairly well. It's just that Bryan is a complete idiot whose main skill is walking into the most obvious traps on the planet and doing nothing to change the outcome. There's a difference between refusing to back down and being completely blind to the fact that your strategy - if you can call it that since all he's doing is running his mouth then doing as he's told in taking part in random meaningless matches - is not working.
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