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Post by Clueless Steve on Sept 3, 2013 23:03:55 GMT -5
I just don't see the point in watching WWE at all if you don't have a shred of optimism or confidence (NO CONFIDENCE) in the main storyline. There are plenty of reasons: - You may find the actual wrestling good. - You enjoy several aspects of the company that don't have anything to do with the main storyline. - You're a creature of habit and don't know how not to watch it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 23:05:55 GMT -5
I just don't see the point in watching WWE at all if you don't have a shred of optimism or confidence (NO CONFIDENCE) in the main storyline. There are plenty of reasons: - You may find the actual wrestling good. - You enjoy several aspects of the company that don't have anything to do with the main storyline. - You're a creature of habit and don't know how not to watch it. But the main storyline is currently encapsulating almost every other guy on the roster. Option C sounds the most likely reason.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 23:06:39 GMT -5
I just don't see the point in watching WWE at all if you don't have a shred of optimism or confidence (NO CONFIDENCE) in the main storyline. Because, outside of the Bryan and Big Show stuff, I think the storyline is mostly being handled fairly well. It's just that Bryan is a complete idiot whose main skill is walking into the most obvious traps on the planet and doing nothing to change the outcome. There's a difference between refusing to back down and being completely blind to the fact that your strategy - if you can call it that since all he's doing is running his mouth then doing as he's told in taking part in random meaningless matches - is not working. Yeah but it's not his fault he's been attacked during or after matches is it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 23:09:41 GMT -5
Because, outside of the Bryan and Big Show stuff, I think the storyline is mostly being handled fairly well. It's just that Bryan is a complete idiot whose main skill is walking into the most obvious traps on the planet and doing nothing to change the outcome. There's a difference between refusing to back down and being completely blind to the fact that your strategy - if you can call it that since all he's doing is running his mouth then doing as he's told in taking part in random meaningless matches - is not working. Yeah but it's not his fault he's been attacked during or after matches is it? It is his fault. He could be sure to keep an eye on the Shield and run the second any of them makes a move. Since his job is secure at least until he's gotten his rematch he could refuse to wrestle entirely, or just get himself DQed repeatedly. He could always exit through the crowd and not after a match stand around posing in the ring like an idiot when he knows Orton is probably standing around watching. He could stop poking the bear by talking trash to Triple H every week and prompting him to put him in these situations over and over again. Like, the first week, excusable enough even if it was a really obvious trap, and he couldn't reasonably see Orton hiding under the ring coming. But on this show he should have gotten out the second he won the match. In the gauntlet he should have recognized after Ambrose got saved via DQ the exact same thing was going to happen with Reigns and taken off. He should have either thrown the match with Big Show or encouraged him to do the same because the Stephanie segment made it abundantly clear they intended to force Big Show to do him serious harm, and even Cody Rhodes earlier knew full well the Shield was going to run in on it.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Sept 3, 2013 23:18:13 GMT -5
You know, I was at this show live (and had a total blast), but I'm shocked that WWE didn't air on TV the ending that they gave post-show for the live crowd.
After the show went off air, Bryan was lying on the ramp, when Vickie came out and told him that a title match was going to happen that night immediately. A battered Bryan pulled himself back up to face off against a fresh Orton. Back and forth match between the two, until Bryan has Orton trapped in the Yeslock, which brings back The Shield for the no-contest.
But just when things look even bleaker in the midst of a quadruple teaming, RVD, Kofi Kingston, AND Dolph Ziggler all run out to make the save. They fight off Orton and Shield all together, and the show ends with Bryan, RVD, Kofi, and Dolph standing in the ring triumphant and raising their arms in victory together.
A lot of people are complaining about Bryan being left lying at the end of every show. WWE really missed the boat by saving the happy ending only to send the live crowd home happy.
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Post by Lancers on Sept 3, 2013 23:28:22 GMT -5
*sees nine page Smackdown spoiler thread**reads spoilers*
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 3, 2013 23:34:32 GMT -5
I'm staying hopeful... I've got to, otherwise (to me) there's no point in following along. I mean, I do understand that based on their recent track record in big angles, that some here are starting to lose interest, and that's fine... but it's just not me to write off a storyline until it's pretty much over.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Sept 3, 2013 23:36:14 GMT -5
Why on earth do they have Real Americans winning? OVer the Usos no less. The Uso's have far more charisma than Useless Swags. I just hate that Cesaro is in this group. Totally wasted. He should be feuding for the IC belt or US title belt. Not deep in the shithole with Jack Swagger.
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Post by Boozeman on Sept 4, 2013 1:08:21 GMT -5
So Bryan didn't attend/crash the "town hall" because WWE officials told him not to?
What a badass. I don't know how much more of this rebellion I can handle from Daniel Bryan's character. He's really sticking it to the man!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 4, 2013 1:10:35 GMT -5
Why on earth do they have Real Americans winning? OVer the Usos no less. The Uso's have far more charisma than Useless Swags. I just hate that Cesaro is in this group. Totally wasted. He should be feuding for the IC belt or US title belt. Not deep in the shithole with Jack Swagger. Probably building them up so they can job to Los Matadores.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 1:27:01 GMT -5
Why on earth do they have Real Americans winning? OVer the Usos no less. The Uso's have far more charisma than Useless Swags. I just hate that Cesaro is in this group. Totally wasted. He should be feuding for the IC belt or US title belt. Not deep in the shithole with Jack Swagger. I'm kind of the opposite. I don't like having Cesaro in the group either, but it's more because he makes zero sense with their gimmick and I think Swagger's much more entertaining than he is.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Sept 4, 2013 1:40:26 GMT -5
Guys, we've been saying they should give us a different end to the shows, and they're doing it! Sometimes it's The Shield standing over a fallen Bryan, sometimes it's Orton standing over a fallen Bryan. VARIETY!
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Sept 4, 2013 2:33:05 GMT -5
... and this is what I was afraid of. While many liked the idea of a new strong heel faction, it's already turned into a vehicle to undercut the other heels. I guess maybe Trips crapping on Slater could set up a face turn although I don't see what purpose will that serve in the long run. However, I don't think there is even a future face turn for Sandow, it wouldn't make sense to give him the MITB and Cody feud just to have him become a face to the other MITB winner, the one they give a crap about. Just being told he is an ass kisser below Trips chosen ass kissers. And if they are going ahead with the poppin' fresh "Show's reluctant heel turn" again they sure aren't making him look good in the process.
This isn't building new stars. Bryan was already big enough and didn't need to be put over by boring Orton and Trips Ego. He was already getting bigger pops then either of them before they stepped in to "put him over".
Yeah Orton and Trips are getting tremendous heat out of this, but at what cost? David Arquette got awesome heel heat too. The thing is heel heat is worthless if there isn't a face to rally behind and they aren't showing Bryan to be anything more than a victim at best or an outright at idiot at worst. And the rest of the faces are mouses trying to stay out of the eyes of the big cats.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Sept 4, 2013 4:12:57 GMT -5
Yeah Orton and Trips are getting tremendous heat out of this, but at what cost? David Arquette got awesome heel heat too. The thing is heel heat is worthless if there isn't a face to rally behind and they aren't showing Bryan to be anything more than a victim at best or an outright at idiot at worst. And the rest of the faces are mouses trying to stay out of the eyes of the big cats. Cena will fix that when he comes back. So until then, let's just see where this goes...
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Post by Ash Kingston on Sept 4, 2013 4:29:57 GMT -5
So... six shows in a row where D-Bry is left lying as the cameras go off?
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I get a free sandwich! Yay!
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Post by spagett on Sept 4, 2013 5:40:43 GMT -5
So... six shows in a row where D-Bry is left lying as the cameras go off? ... I get a free sandwich! Yay! It's 7 counting Summerslam.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Sept 4, 2013 7:53:40 GMT -5
This is an example of having too many PPV's.
If we had longer to build it, you'd have Bryan fighting to get a title shot. Instead what's happened is he demanded one and he got one. Now they have to kick heels until the PPV.
Ideally you'd have had a few weeks of him trying to get his shot and being denied, before something happened to cause Orton to blow up and accept or whatever. Triple H makes it so Bryan has to beat someone, but Triple H is the special ref etc so there's no way Bryan can win. This is the point at which the locker room rallies and Bryan wins to earn his shot.
Come the next PPV the playing field is even, but come the main event you get Big Show's IRON CLAD problems in the way and he turns heel to cost Bryan.
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Post by Instant Classic on Sept 4, 2013 7:56:47 GMT -5
Dean Ambrose vs Dolph Ziggler at NoC should be damn good!
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Post by Mesousa287793 on Sept 4, 2013 8:01:50 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but...Ryback complaining about being a bully is the highlight of this.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Sept 4, 2013 8:19:46 GMT -5
So... six shows in a row where D-Bry is left lying as the cameras go off? ... I get a free sandwich! Yay! It's 7 counting Summerslam. Plus next week's RAW and SmackDown make nine. Yay.
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