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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 5, 2013 12:28:14 GMT -5
Don't forget Brad Maddox. He seems to relish in being evil, but maybe he can at least start the wave of goodness when he's tired of being pushed around. Sure he'll get fired but it's a start.
He seems pretty useless in all this actually.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 5, 2013 12:30:45 GMT -5
Don't forget Brad Maddox. He seems to relish in being evil, but maybe he can at least start the wave of goodness when he's tired of being pushed around. Sure he'll get fired but it's a start. He seems pretty useless in all this actually. I'd like to think Mad Ox is simply just walking around and kissing the ass of whomever's in charge, as was implied before SummerSlam, when he kept stacking the deck against Bryan on Vince's orders. He's doing what H is telling him to do, because he doesn't want to suffer the consequences.
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Post by Young Game on Sept 5, 2013 12:30:49 GMT -5
He insulted the wife of HHH's children. HA HA!
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 5, 2013 12:31:40 GMT -5
I'd love to see a "lifer" end up taking over for a long period of time. I'd mark the hell out if when the smoke settled, that it ends up being a guy like JBL as the Commissioner/CFO/Whatever of the WWE for like 5 years. Ultimate ending would be Bryan wins and takes over and they discover the WWE was on the brink of collapse because of HHH's tax evasions, and IRS ends up running the WWE for a couple years as they pay off their debts to society (aka the WWE Universe). IRS as the boss is the one true path to a new boom period, and everyone knows it.
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Post by Lancers on Sept 5, 2013 12:32:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately I see no way in which all authority figures are banned. This is just the beginning of 30-40+ years of Steph and HHH doing their best Mr. McMahon impersonations. They'll be together, then they'll be against each other, when Vince dies they'll do a divorce storyline for control, then they'll get back together, then they'll do one where Steph is cheating on HHH with Vince Russo and booking some crazy shit so HHH cheats on Steph with 90 year old Linda and somehow works a Katie Vick joke in, then they'll get back together and have a wedding themed episode of Raw, then the Big Show will be revealed to have been the result of a tryst between Linda and Andre the Giant so he'll want control of the WWE as well etc. This is the saddest, yet most truthful paragraph in this discussion. Even when this particular angle ends, we still have about three or four more decades of the back and forth between Steph, Hunter and other replaceable parts.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 5, 2013 12:39:12 GMT -5
... the entire company is ran by imbeciles with terrible and short-sighted business sense? It's just corrupt clueless douchebag against corrupt clueless douchebag in that case with one standing tall. The hell of it is...that's pretty much how the "real world" is working these days corporation-wise. Just look at the JC Penny's debacle going on as we speak.
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Post by hossfan on Sept 5, 2013 12:41:31 GMT -5
Accepting the role as "Not The Guy" would've essentially meant letting the corrupt "doofuses" run things. Even if Bryan hadn't insulted Steph, Hunner would've still crowned Orton as the "face of the WWE" and still be doing a lot of the things he'd be doing as of this week, frequent beatdowns of DB excepted. Guys like Dolph and Big Show would've probably still spoken out about H's decision, even if Bryan stepped aside. Why is Dolph Ziggler upset about this? He had no problem using his relationship with Vickie Guerrero to become World champion the first time, and became champ the second time by cashing in on a weakened opponent just like Randy Orton did. He's clearly jealous over the fact its been proven he doesn't have what it takes to be "The Guy" either. And Big Show, he'll cry and complain about pretty much anything. And he's a hypocrite too: helping Johnny Ace keep his job in exchange for an ironclad contract. Why are all this holier than thou whiners trying to make it personal with HHH, when it's "just business"?
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 5, 2013 12:46:05 GMT -5
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 5, 2013 13:52:22 GMT -5
You could say that, but there's the fact that Hunner's reacting very negatively to even the slightest hint of an opposing opinion against his decisions, like forcing Ziggler and Show to fight The Shield only because they didn't approve with H screwing Bryan out of a title he earned fair and square. They didn't screw Bryan out of a title. HHH took advantage of the opportunity the rules of Money in the Bank afforded him. This is all Daniel Bryan's fault. He took the loss at Summerslam personally. He insulted the wife of HHH's children. If he had kept quiet and accepted his role as "Not the Guy", this all could have been avoided. You honestly had me up until this post. Well done.
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Post by hossfan on Sept 5, 2013 14:17:14 GMT -5
They didn't screw Bryan out of a title. HHH took advantage of the opportunity the rules of Money in the Bank afforded him. This is all Daniel Bryan's fault. He took the loss at Summerslam personally. He insulted the wife of HHH's children. If he had kept quiet and accepted his role as "Not the Guy", this all could have been avoided. You honestly had me up until this post. Well done. Thanks. My contention all along wasn't to say that Hunter is right, but that he isn't incompetent. There is a logic to his actions.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2013 15:26:16 GMT -5
I gotta say though, it's gotta be weird being Orton. I mean, this angle is basically acknowledging "nobody was ever drawn in by this guy and only a total egomaniac idiot would put him front and center".
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 5, 2013 15:46:34 GMT -5
I said ages ago that the storyline has to end with serious changes to WWE as it presents itself as on-air management. Daniel Bryan winning the title isn't enough. They need to conclude the story with the McMahons themselves being broken. It's what they should have done with the CM Punk angle. If the story ends with DB as champion, but management status quo (or worse still, HHH turning face), then it's all for nothing.
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Post by Chip on Sept 5, 2013 16:13:03 GMT -5
I think when Bryan regains the title that will be his part in the story over and he will go on to defend the title. However I believe that will sadly spark a feud between Vince and Hunter, with the two blaming each other for not being able to stop Bryan from winning and not putting what's "best for business" first. Blow-off at Mania in a Trump/MchMahon-esque match.
What I want to happen is that as time goes on Hunter makes increasingly ridiculous demands of the Shield, putting them in more and more danger as Bryan starts to up the ante and possibly gains a sidekick or two along the way. At Night of Champions or the PPV after Hunter out and out screws Bryan with either a submission screwjob, fast count, whatever, there needs to be such a massive bending of the rules they shatter into a million pieces.
The next night, Bryan is so pissed all he can think about is Hunters nose smearing against Bryans knee. Hunter comes out, with the Shield, cuts a promo about the night before and is cut off by Bryans music. Bryan walks down the ramp like he's f***ing hulked up and is ready to smash, all that's between Bryan and Hunter is the Shield. After a staredown the Shield decide they are done and part to the sides and Bryan chases Hunter out of the building. With no Shield to protect him Hunter is too scared to even show up on RAW and cuts promos live from a satellite. We get to the next PPV, Bryan gets another shot because it's not like Maddox is gonna say no to Bryan, he wins clean, everyone goes home happy. After that I don't really care what happens to Hunter or Vince, it's clear they will try to drag that part out longer then necessary.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2013 16:26:15 GMT -5
I think when Bryan regains the title that will be his part in the story over and he will go on to defend the title. However I believe that will sadly spark a feud between Vince and Hunter, with the two blaming each other for not being able to stop Bryan from winning and not putting what's "best for business" first. Blow-off at Mania in a Trump/MchMahon-esque match. What I want to happen is that as time goes on Hunter makes increasingly ridiculous demands of the Shield, putting them in more and more danger as Bryan starts to up the ante and possibly gains a sidekick or two along the way. At Night of Champions or the PPV after Hunter out and out screws Bryan with either a submission screwjob, fast count, whatever, there needs to be such a massive bending of the rules they shatter into a million pieces. The next night, Bryan is so pissed all he can think about is Hunters nose smearing against Bryans knee. Hunter comes out, with the Shield, cuts a promo about the night before and is cut off by Bryans music. Bryan walks down the ramp like he's f***ing hulked up and is ready to smash, all that's between Bryan and Hunter is the Shield. After a staredown the Shield decide they are done and part to the sides and Bryan chases Hunter out of the building. With no Shield to protect him Hunter is too scared to even show up on RAW and cuts promos live from a satellite. We get to the next PPV, Bryan gets another shot because it's not like Maddox is gonna say no to Bryan, he wins clean, everyone goes home happy. After that I don't really care what happens to Hunter or Vince, it's clear they will try to drag that part out longer then necessary. that actually sounds pretty good. it'd be funnier if they started billing Hunner from "an undisclosed location" ala Eric Young when he was afraid of being fired.
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Post by sunnytaker on Sept 5, 2013 16:56:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately I see no way in which all authority figures are banned. This is just the beginning of 30-40+ years of Steph and HHH doing their best Mr. McMahon impersonations. They'll be together, then they'll be against each other, when Vince dies they'll do a divorce storyline for control, then they'll get back together, then they'll do one where Steph is cheating on HHH with Vince Russo and booking some crazy shit so HHH cheats on Steph with 90 year old Linda and somehow works a Katie Vick joke in, then they'll get back together and have a wedding themed episode of Raw, then the Big Show will be revealed to have been the result of a tryst between Linda and Andre the Giant so he'll want control of the WWE as well etc. This is the saddest, yet most truthful paragraph in this discussion. Even when this particular angle ends, we still have about three or four more decades of the back and forth between Steph, Hunter and other replaceable parts. don;t worry in another 15-20 years the girls will be ready to start plotting to overthrow mom and dad and take over the WWE for themselves.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Sept 5, 2013 17:48:07 GMT -5
After defending them on multiple occasions, it is clear that the on-screen McMahons and Triple H need to be vanquished. A babyface turn cannot work for any of them in any capacity. They are horrible people that like to ruin lives for fun. Even if they feel bad about it and try do things right for a while, they just can't help but revert back into monsters.
What I think will happen, is that they will try to force one of them into an awkward babyface role that no one will get behind.
What should happen is Daniel Bryan and friends somehow exile the McMahons and Triple H and we can have a storyline that I have wanted to see ever since the evil authority figure story was invented: WWE Animal Farm. The remaining good guys try to create a perfect WWE, it works for a while, but someone seizes power and abuses it. I would love to see CM Punk be the Napoleon character. Then they can either have another huge faction war, or they could bring Vince back as a much more sympathetic broken man who's lust for control cost him everything he and his family have ever worked for. He could come back and assist the babyfaces in vanquishing Punk or the authority faction. Then I'm not sure what to do. /fantasy booking
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Sept 5, 2013 18:00:06 GMT -5
WWE's most succesful angle ever was when the owner of the company lost his mind and made erratic decisions because the champion was anti-authority.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 18:13:46 GMT -5
If this doesn't end with Bryan making Steph pregnant and Orton punting her stomach, then we all have wasted a lot of time.
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Post by salz4life on Sept 6, 2013 7:07:00 GMT -5
How about Triple H and Stephanie learn a very important lesson about bullying, and learn to show tolerance and respect? Bryan: I love you, Brie Brie: and I love you Daniel random new diva: I love you, Kane Kane: and I love you, dream woman Zack Ryder: love you, man Braddox: and I love you, because I have learned that platonic love between 2 grown men can exist Triple H: and I learned that a terrible new hair-cut, marrying the boss's daughter and aligning with 3 Bossman clones can get you some things, but not everything Bryan: well I guess we all learned something! I approve. Not enough Wayne's World references anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 9:52:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately I see no way in which all authority figures are banned. This is just the beginning of 30-40+ years of Steph and HHH doing their best Mr. McMahon impersonations. They'll be together, then they'll be against each other, when Vince dies they'll do a divorce storyline for control, then they'll get back together, then they'll do one where Steph is cheating on HHH with Vince Russo and booking some crazy shit so HHH cheats on Steph with 90 year old Linda and somehow works a Katie Vick joke in, then they'll get back together and have a wedding themed episode of Raw, then the Big Show will be revealed to have been the result of a tryst between Linda and Andre the Giant so he'll want control of the WWE as well etc. This is the saddest, yet most truthful paragraph in this discussion. Even when this particular angle ends, we still have about three or four more decades of the back and forth between Steph, Hunter and other replaceable parts. They'll also be doing ass and cleavage shots of Steph in 2045, followed by message board posts about how hot Steph is for her age.
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