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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2013 9:42:28 GMT -5
I read it as beard split.
IMO they should do it the way they did pre-Invasion brand split, and have the same champion cover both shows.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Sept 13, 2013 23:12:35 GMT -5
I miss WWE knowing how to book a roster top to bottom. The brand split was a method following the acquisitions of ECW and WCW. It worked for its time but then WWE got lazy and neglectful and it devalued the brand split by clearly favoring Raw in promotion and hype. Then it half-assed the end of the split and I don't think it's entirely phased it out yet after half a decade. Now the brand split's ultimate legacy is giving the WWE twice as many titles as it needs.
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Post by klapaucius on Sept 14, 2013 0:06:07 GMT -5
no.
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Post by Malcolm on Sept 14, 2013 0:07:26 GMT -5
I miss Smackdown actually being somewhat relevant...
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Sept 14, 2013 0:10:12 GMT -5
Not much point in it anymore, so no. And hopefully next year, we can start seeing some sporadic Cena appearances on Smackdown to really reinforce its demise.
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Post by Raskovnik on Sept 14, 2013 0:13:10 GMT -5
I seem to recall the brand split leading to some awfully lame PPV matches.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 14, 2013 0:20:41 GMT -5
I miss WWE knowing how to book a roster top to bottom. The brand split was a method following the acquisitions of ECW and WCW. It worked for its time but then WWE got lazy and neglectful and it devalued the brand split by clearly favoring Raw in promotion and hype. Then it half-assed the end of the split and I don't think it's entirely phased it out yet after half a decade. Now the brand split's ultimate legacy is giving the WWE twice as many titles as it needs. I agree with this. The number of belts is fine though. Bu t there's no reason to have two major titles and two "upper midcard" titles. I do miss WWE knowing how to book a roster from top to bottom. There are a lot of talents who deserve to get more TV time and to be booked more strongly and credibly, but presentation-wise they aren't good enough or ready to be moved up the ranks. There are plenty of guys on the roster who would be better served as solid upper midcard acts rather than as half-assed "main eventers". WWE needs to re-evaluate the way that they push talent. They need to stop operating in terms of building "stars" (they have more than enough "stars" on the roster, even if they aren't at John Cena-level) and think more about putting on an entertaining show.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 0:43:03 GMT -5
The main reasons WWE had the brand split in the first place were:
A) The roster was too big after they acquired WCW and ECW B) To provide competition in the wrestling business after the Monday Night Wars ended
Neither of those things apply anymore. The roster is fairly small by WWE standards and the fans never really bought Raw and SmackDown as real rivals. There's no need for the brand split, nor do I miss it.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 14, 2013 2:02:34 GMT -5
No. I don't at all. It was stupid in the first place.
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Post by Dean-o on Sept 14, 2013 2:39:45 GMT -5
I do. I have no reason to watch Smackdown nowadays because now it's just like a bad raw replay. Before it had, at the very least, the fact it gave off a feeling of "VINCE ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION QUICK LET'S DO SOMETHING INTERESTING!" that could happen at any time. Now though? Eh... To be fair, they are slowly trying to make Smackdown relevant again. I now no longer read spoilers and DVR it to watch over the weekend.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 14, 2013 2:45:32 GMT -5
I do. I have no reason to watch Smackdown nowadays because now it's just like a bad raw replay. Before it had, at the very least, the fact it gave off a feeling of "VINCE ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION QUICK LET'S DO SOMETHING INTERESTING!" that could happen at any time. Now though? Eh... To be fair, they are slowly trying to make Smackdown relevant again. I now no longer read spoilers and DVR it to watch over the weekend. Problem is, that while featuring the Corporation/Bryan stuff on SmackDown makes the show more watchable, it further marginalizes the World Title which still makes the brands seem imbalanced.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 4:15:33 GMT -5
I miss it when it was actually enforced and they seemed to give two craps about Smackdown but those petered put over the last few years
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Sept 14, 2013 7:22:46 GMT -5
I do. I have no reason to watch Smackdown nowadays because now it's just like a bad raw replay. Before it had, at the very least, the fact it gave off a feeling of "VINCE ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION QUICK LET'S DO SOMETHING INTERESTING!" that could happen at any time. Now though? Eh... This, exactly. Smackdown used to be my favourite when I started watching, but noooooot anymore. I also liked the brand split because it gave some of the lesser-used stars a bit more of a chance to get on tv, even if it was only as jobbers. Not to mention, the draft was always fun to watch!
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 14, 2013 7:30:36 GMT -5
I do. I have no reason to watch Smackdown nowadays because now it's just like a bad raw replay. Before it had, at the very least, the fact it gave off a feeling of "VINCE ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION QUICK LET'S DO SOMETHING INTERESTING!" that could happen at any time. Now though? Eh... This, exactly. Smackdown used to be my favourite when I started watching, but noooooot anymore. I also liked the brand split because it gave some of the lesser-used stars a bit more of a chance to get on tv, even if it was only as jobbers. Not to mention, the draft was always fun to watch! I miss Matt Hardy having basically the match to watch every week, before the stomach problems and weight gain when he came back from injury too fast to try to work with Jeff. Used to be they gave him 15-20 minutes a week to have matches with anyone from Finlay, Miz, and others, and it was worth looking forward to every week, when it looked like Matt could main event eventually. That ended up imploding. Sometimes, though, there was a hefty downside. Smackdown used to basically try to have Kofi and Dolph have 600 matches a year. I don't miss that any.
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Sept 14, 2013 7:46:50 GMT -5
This, exactly. Smackdown used to be my favourite when I started watching, but noooooot anymore. I also liked the brand split because it gave some of the lesser-used stars a bit more of a chance to get on tv, even if it was only as jobbers. Not to mention, the draft was always fun to watch! I miss Matt Hardy having basically the match to watch every week, before the stomach problems and weight gain when he came back from injury too fast to try to work with Jeff. Used to be they gave him 15-20 minutes a week to have matches with anyone from Finlay, Miz, and others, and it was worth looking forward to every week, when it looked like Matt could main event eventually. That ended up imploding. Sometimes, though, there was a hefty downside. Smackdown used to basically try to have Kofi and Dolph have 600 matches a year. I don't miss that any. I don't think anyone misses the never-ending series of Kofi vs Dolph matches, haha.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 14, 2013 7:54:59 GMT -5
I miss Matt Hardy having basically the match to watch every week, before the stomach problems and weight gain when he came back from injury too fast to try to work with Jeff. Used to be they gave him 15-20 minutes a week to have matches with anyone from Finlay, Miz, and others, and it was worth looking forward to every week, when it looked like Matt could main event eventually. That ended up imploding. Sometimes, though, there was a hefty downside. Smackdown used to basically try to have Kofi and Dolph have 600 matches a year. I don't miss that any. I don't think anyone misses the never-ending series of Kofi vs Dolph matches, haha. I like both guys, but my lord, did it get dull.
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Post by Bootista on Sept 14, 2013 13:48:49 GMT -5
No
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Post by fw91 on Sept 14, 2013 14:18:26 GMT -5
yes and no.
I miss it because... A) it gave a lot of people storylines that wouldn't have, B) it gave me a reason to keep tabs on what goes on on smackdown every week
I don't miss it because....... single ppvs, especially smackdown ones had very thin cards, with matches just thrown in without any story or just very little interest
the way things are today works out well, but they need to get rid of the whc.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Sept 20, 2013 6:18:58 GMT -5
I do.
It gave those who wouldn't be able to before it a chance to shine and lets be honest these days those types are pretty much jobbers.
It didn't help that the WWE always made it clear that they felt that Smackdown was the B show even though for a good few years it was much better than Raw.
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Post by Abdullah on Sept 20, 2013 6:34:03 GMT -5
This, exactly. Smackdown used to be my favourite when I started watching, but noooooot anymore. I also liked the brand split because it gave some of the lesser-used stars a bit more of a chance to get on tv, even if it was only as jobbers. Not to mention, the draft was always fun to watch! I miss Matt Hardy having basically the match to watch every week, before the stomach problems and weight gain when he came back from injury too fast to try to work with Jeff. Used to be they gave him 15-20 minutes a week to have matches with anyone from Finlay, Miz, and others, and it was worth looking forward to every week, when it looked like Matt could main event eventually. That ended up imploding. Sometimes, though, there was a hefty downside. Smackdown used to basically try to have Kofi and Dolph have 600 matches a year. I don't miss that any. Maybe the value of SD as its own brand started to gradually fade around 2010 but we still had the Miz/Morrison series and CM Punk's feud with Jeff Hardy in '09. Great stuff. I wish SD had more of its own storylines where they didn't have to continue where RAW left off. I miss that.
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