RIHT
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Post by RIHT on Sept 15, 2013 18:13:30 GMT -5
nodq.com/wwe/380998358.shtmlSo after reading this and many other articles, it seems that JR was actually fired by WWE and the "retired" thing was a ploy to avoid bad PR. Apparently, after the "symposium from hell" with a drunk/crazy Ric Flair and JR's Bell's Palsy acting up, making him seem as drunk as Flair, WWE just fired him. Really? Are you freaking kidding me? What an ass move by Vince! He took JR's true job as the voice of the WWE on multiple occasions, mocked his personality and life-deterring health condition I numerous times, knocked him down multiple rungs from the backstage ladder, and even after all that with JR staying content working on NXT and coming back once a year, Vince finally did it. I don't think we have the full story, but this is disgusting. Poor JR literally can't even smile, but by god he always showed the joy he had for his job. Hell, Jerry Lawler turned to crap after JR left. That's how important he was. My reaction to this is basically the equivalent of JR's kayfabe reaction to Stone Cold getting fired by Eric Bischoff on Raw in 2003, but even worse. What a god damned shame and I am very upset. People seemed to dislike JR in recent years because he tried to stay neutral on everything, but I still respect him for what he did and how he's handled life. Thoughts?
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Post by Bootista on Sept 15, 2013 18:15:32 GMT -5
Its sickening how instead of holding that old Fool Flair accountable, they fire JR and use him as a scapegoat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 18:17:22 GMT -5
And Jim Ross will keep crawling back, for some reason.
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Post by amaron on Sept 15, 2013 18:18:03 GMT -5
I believe it. Every single word of it.
This is exactly how I would expect Vince to treat JR.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 18:20:47 GMT -5
And Jim Ross will keep crawling back, for some reason. He's not a young guy any more so I think he appreciates the backing of his business (and the profits from it to keep his bank account at a certain level he's used to in his post-60s) so I don't blame him. The consistency of finance and the links to WWE help him more than anything else would at this point in time. Maybe 10 years ago we could ask why, but it makes sense even if it's only on a financial level.
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Post by woowoowoox on Sept 15, 2013 18:20:53 GMT -5
It doesn't surprise me. It's absolutely pathetic but their treatment of JR always has been.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 18:27:26 GMT -5
And Jim Ross will keep crawling back, for some reason. He's not a young guy any more so I think he appreciates the backing of his business (and the profits from it to keep his bank account at a certain level he's used to in his post-60s) so I don't blame him. The consistency of finance and the links to WWE help him more than anything else would at this point in time. Maybe 10 years ago we could ask why, but it makes sense even if it's only on a financial level. Yeah but he's been the whipping boy for WWE even before his BBQ sauce took off. Why does he even put it with it? Especially in the last decade where TNA would have jumped at the chance to sign him. Yeah I know it's TNA, but at least Dixie would have treated him well.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Sept 15, 2013 18:28:16 GMT -5
The Flair thing was actually amazingly entertaining. Heaven forbid anyone should actually have a personality these days.
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Post by The OP on Sept 15, 2013 18:28:22 GMT -5
I feel like there must be at least a little more to this story for Jim Ross to be held so directly accountable. Maybe he was told beforehand to go over with Flair what kinds of things should or shouldn't be said, as a speculative example. Doesn't seem right though, I'm sure JR was just trying to be fair to Flair.
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Post by DIIV on Sept 15, 2013 18:29:32 GMT -5
I always thought Vince's treatment of J.R was just him getting a few laughs, but to actually fire him over this is completely despicable. I haven't read too much into it, maybe it'll blow over like the Bryan situation in 2010 where they just used him as a scapegoat with plans to bring him back after it all blows over (after all doesn't he write for them, and sell his products on WWEShop?). But even then, them putting the blame on J.R is still makes no sense. Sometimes they just need to swallow their pride and admit they screwed up, and in this case they did.
Why would it be so difficult to throw all of the blame on Flair? It's evident this entire situation was caused by him, and only him. Did they expect J.R to walk over and duct-tape Flair's mouth shut? Ridiculous. I feel extremely terrible for J.R.
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Post by Essential1 on Sept 15, 2013 18:34:25 GMT -5
The whole thing is ridiculous. Ric Flair has been a joke for awhile now and obviously was trying to get himself over. JR did what he could but not much you can do when someone is drunk.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 15, 2013 18:40:40 GMT -5
I feel like there must be at least a little more to this story for Jim Ross to be held so directly accountable. Maybe he was told beforehand to go over with Flair what kinds of things should or shouldn't be said, as a speculative example. Doesn't seem right though, I'm sure JR was just trying to be fair to Flair. Supposedly the two things that pissed off Vince and Stephanie the most were Flair's story about Cena and how he used to never drink until Flair intervened, and now he downs a whole case of beer on the way to every WWE show (or something like that). And they didn't like him bringing up his recently deceased son Reid, and bumming everyone out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 18:42:20 GMT -5
He's not a young guy any more so I think he appreciates the backing of his business (and the profits from it to keep his bank account at a certain level he's used to in his post-60s) so I don't blame him. The consistency of finance and the links to WWE help him more than anything else would at this point in time. Maybe 10 years ago we could ask why, but it makes sense even if it's only on a financial level. Yeah but he's been the whipping boy for WWE even before his BBQ sauce took off. Why does he even put it with it? Especially in the last decade where TNA would have jumped at the chance to sign him. Yeah I know it's TNA, but at least Dixie would have treated him well. I think it's basically a case of knowing that regardless of the amount of wrestling companies who'd love to have him on-screen and off that they simply wouldn't have the financial security & friends that are still in the WWE. Not to say that I think it's acceptable about how he has been treated on air and seemingly off air for nearly two decades, but he must be staying for a reason and money seems to be one of two things the WWE has over any other wrestling company. I'm sure that JR would have loved to just report and work on college football sidelines too, but I imagine the pay/job security is even more cut throat.
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Post by The OP on Sept 15, 2013 18:42:35 GMT -5
I feel like there must be at least a little more to this story for Jim Ross to be held so directly accountable. Maybe he was told beforehand to go over with Flair what kinds of things should or shouldn't be said, as a speculative example. Doesn't seem right though, I'm sure JR was just trying to be fair to Flair. Supposedly the two things that pissed off Vince and Stephanie the most were Flair's story about Cena and how he used to never drink until Flair intervened, and now he downs a whole case of beer on the way to every WWE show (or something like that). And they didn't like him bringing up his recently deceased son Reid, and bumming everyone out. I can understand that, what I wanna know is why JR was the one held accountable.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 15, 2013 18:46:21 GMT -5
Supposedly the two things that pissed off Vince and Stephanie the most were Flair's story about Cena and how he used to never drink until Flair intervened, and now he downs a whole case of beer on the way to every WWE show (or something like that). And they didn't like him bringing up his recently deceased son Reid, and bumming everyone out. I can understand that, what I wanna know is why JR was the one held accountable. I have a feeling they just wanted to get rid of Ross and this was simply a "good" excuse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 18:59:47 GMT -5
I really hope for a ton of "WE WANT ROSS" chants tonight and tommorow on Raw , and I cannot wait to hear him on stone colds podcast because Austin is the one man I want to hear speak about this.
It is absoloutley disgusting and mark maddenn summed it up in his article The McMahons fear Ross because he knows more about wrestling than they do.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 15, 2013 19:00:54 GMT -5
To be honest, JR detracted more from the show than he added that night, it's not like everything was perfect bar Flair rambling. It was godawful, with no coherent structure or anything even close to professional.
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Post by Mesousa287793 on Sept 15, 2013 19:06:46 GMT -5
(Headdesk)
Christ sakes.
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Post by fart on Sept 15, 2013 19:10:40 GMT -5
The Flair thing was actually amazingly entertaining. Heaven forbid anyone should actually have a personality these days. 100& agree.
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Post by virgil on Sept 15, 2013 20:52:29 GMT -5
Funny thing was, even Austin when interviewing Flair said he didn't see why anyone got bent out of shape. He sorta confirmed WWE officials told Flair to "go out there and be yourself" and shouldn't have been shocked by the result. Bottom line (no pun intended) is this may kill any future of Austin being willing to come back to the WWE for appearances.
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