nate5054
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 18, 2013 0:46:35 GMT -5
I swear, some fans have no respect and all they care about is making themselves the show. Funny that Dusty is smarter than all of you and started working his promo without pausing to not give you jackoffs a chance to have your moment. "What?" makes me sick and did I mention those fans have no respect either... The "What" morons can't comprehend how dumb they are, so while I get and support the anger you are displaying, it doesn't do much good other than to soothe yourself by knowing that they are total and complete morons.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Sept 18, 2013 3:28:19 GMT -5
Maybe they just thought Dusty was boring.
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 18, 2013 4:22:40 GMT -5
The only I dislike more than "What" chants are the elitist jackasses who think they are 'above' chanting. If being above that dumbass chant makes me an elitist jackass, than elitist jackass me up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 5:01:37 GMT -5
The only I dislike more than "What" chants are the elitist jackasses who think they are 'above' chanting. If being above that dumbass chant makes me an elitist jackass, than elitist jackass me up. Same. If hating the "What?" chants makes you an elitist jackass, consider me Donald Trump. What will I do with my newfound elitist attitude?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 18, 2013 6:53:54 GMT -5
The only I dislike more than "What" chants are the elitist jackasses who think they are 'above' chanting. If being above that dumbass chant makes me an elitist jackass, than elitist jackass me up. I think what he meant was considering yourself above ANY chanting, rather than the 'What?' chant in particular.
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Post by Piccolo on Sept 18, 2013 8:40:26 GMT -5
It's annoying. But as others have mentioned, if you're good on the mic, you can subvert it like Taker and Hogan did, or change your cadence to cut it off (I remember Shawn did this when he first came back... he'd troll the crowd with an obvious pause moment, then add something else onto the sentence so their "What" chant fell flat). Eventually the crowd will get frustrated and pipe down. It's just a matter of being able to handle them, and most of the veterans are good enough that they can do that.
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Sept 18, 2013 9:57:16 GMT -5
Condemning paying customers who decide to participate in a show that encourages such behavior is a bit silly. They are not trained robots, rather human beings with opinions of their own. It just so happens that they are not as interested in Dusty as you happen to be. Bingo. WWE encourages audience participation, and sometimes they embrace when things don't go exactly as planned (see Fandangoing, the 'shushing' during Chris Masters' first entrance) so it's a little silly to condemn it just because you don't like who it's directed to. Fans aren't going to react to everything in the exact same way, so the What chants are going to happen. It's not because they're morons or because they hate Dusty or anything like that; it's because they simply want to do it and aren't quite as enthralled in the segment as you wish them to be.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 18, 2013 10:33:45 GMT -5
Condemning paying customers who decide to participate in a show that encourages such behavior is a bit silly. They are not trained robots, rather human beings with opinions of their own. It just so happens that they are not as interested in Dusty as you happen to be. Bingo. WWE encourages audience participation, and sometimes they embrace when things don't go exactly as planned (see Fandangoing, the 'shushing' during Chris Masters' first entrance) so it's a little silly to condemn it just because you don't like who it's directed to. Fans aren't going to react to everything in the exact same way, so the What chants are going to happen. It's not because they're morons or because they hate Dusty or anything like that; it's because they simply want to do it and aren't quite as enthralled in the segment as you wish them to be. Their opinions don't supersede others there who maybe wanted to hear what was being said. They have a right to do it, but we have the right to call them out as what (WHAT?!) they really are: disruptive assholes, doing a chant for no other reason than they want to. And why do they want to? Because they found a man "boring" who hadn't even begun to to speak before they came to that conclusion? Or because they just felt like sabotaging a segment? This wasn't a cheer/boo situation. You can react to the narrative anyway you want, but I do find it disrespectful to these guys who are simply performing, by undermining the story just to be dicks. While it's always going to happen and there's not much anyone can do to stop it, it is not something to be celebrated. Being an asshole for asshole's sake is NOT a good trait and shouldn't be accepted as "ok" ever.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 18, 2013 11:00:53 GMT -5
Bingo. WWE encourages audience participation, and sometimes they embrace when things don't go exactly as planned (see Fandangoing, the 'shushing' during Chris Masters' first entrance) so it's a little silly to condemn it just because you don't like who it's directed to. Fans aren't going to react to everything in the exact same way, so the What chants are going to happen. It's not because they're morons or because they hate Dusty or anything like that; it's because they simply want to do it and aren't quite as enthralled in the segment as you wish them to be. Their opinions don't supersede others there who maybe wanted to hear what was being said. They have a right to do it, but we have the right to call them out as what (WHAT?!) they really are: disruptive assholes, doing a chant for no other reason than they want to. And why do they want to? Because they found a man "boring" who hadn't even begun to to speak before they came to that conclusion? Or because they just felt like sabotaging a segment? This wasn't a cheer/boo situation. You can react to the narrative anyway you want, but I do find it disrespectful to these guys who are simply performing, by undermining the story just to be dicks. While it's always going to happen and there's not much anyone can do to stop it, it is not something to be celebrated. Being an asshole for asshole's sake is NOT a good trait and shouldn't be accepted as "ok" ever. This is oddly reminding me of how i was upset Sara Del Rey is a trainer and overwhelmingly being told that she's a trainer and probably better off....like they couldn't understand why I was mad I couldn't see her wrestle. You liked Dusty and wanted to hear him so it pissed you off. It's not that you're undermining the entire structure of live events.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 18, 2013 11:08:01 GMT -5
Their opinions don't supersede others there who maybe wanted to hear what was being said. They have a right to do it, but we have the right to call them out as what (WHAT?!) they really are: disruptive assholes, doing a chant for no other reason than they want to. And why do they want to? Because they found a man "boring" who hadn't even begun to to speak before they came to that conclusion? Or because they just felt like sabotaging a segment? This wasn't a cheer/boo situation. You can react to the narrative anyway you want, but I do find it disrespectful to these guys who are simply performing, by undermining the story just to be dicks. While it's always going to happen and there's not much anyone can do to stop it, it is not something to be celebrated. Being an asshole for asshole's sake is NOT a good trait and shouldn't be accepted as "ok" ever. This is oddly reminding me of how i was upset Sara Del Rey is a trainer and overwhelmingly being told that she's a trainer and probably better off....like they couldn't understand why I was mad I couldn't see her wrestle. You liked Dusty and wanted to hear him so it pissed you off. It's not that you're undermining the entire structure of live events. I know what you're saying, but that's really not it for me. I'm not the biggest Cena fan, but I wouldn't 'what' the guy's promo. I'd react to it and him afterward. I'd remember that he's performing a character -- and I should let him perform that character first. I get to react to what he's saying and doing soon. I'd boo between pauses or whatever. But I'd be a dick to not let him speak at all. And ruin what he's saying for those around who wanted to hear it. I wouldn't think my right to disrupt would supersede others rights to listen.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 18, 2013 11:33:44 GMT -5
I don't care about the disrespect thing really, and you're perfectly allowed to chant whatever you want, but it is a dumb chant. Always has been, because you're not really reacting to what's goin on or being said, you're just saying random shit.
By all means, chant all you want, chanting is fun, but make it entertaining or at least original.
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Post by Bishblast on Sept 18, 2013 19:56:04 GMT -5
Oh man, I forgot about that... that really annoyed me more than usual (mostly considering who was talking), but thankfully Dusty knows his way around that and the crowd let up very quickly.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Sept 19, 2013 0:23:56 GMT -5
I thought it was the trendy thing for crowds to crap all over stuff for the sheer hell of it. Or is it just when it's Del Rio and Sheamus?
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 20, 2013 4:32:37 GMT -5
Respect has it's place and I love The American Dream as much as any wrestling fanboy. But the audience paid money to be entertained and it seems like a few of them were bored by Dusty's rambling promo. I actually think they did ultimately show him respect by not chanting "boring" (another one of Austin's gems that he left the audience to use against promos!) and you recall they did chant this during Heyman's promo.
Two things about that last point:
1) Heyman visibly upped his game during this promo when he heard that he was 'boring' to the audience, and I think he called an audible by kissing Ryback on the cheek because of it.
2) The fans will not ever chant 'boring' to a face Hall of Famer I think. Nobody has that little class and I doubt any real wrestling fan would let somebody in the crowd get away with starting up something that disrespectful. 'What?' as R-Truth has shown is not 100% a negative chant, and faces that don't speak traditional English (Khali, Sin Cara, etc.) will also get them in non-English promos. But with all due respect, I'm not paying for RAW tickets to sit there and respect legends, I want to be entertained by what's in the ring so if it's not happening I'm gonna entertain myself by 'What'-ing an excessively long promo.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 20, 2013 4:52:10 GMT -5
Maybe they just thought Dusty was boring. They started doing it as soon as he started talking. It's not enough time to get bored. But as the OP said, Dusty is too smart and knew how to work around it. They soon stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 8:04:47 GMT -5
Those fans bought a ticket and have the right to act like juvenile assholes, I don't get whats so hard about that? It's like yesterday I went to the movies to see "End of the World", f***ing people acting like assholes got me kicked out when I started a boring chant, losers didn't even join in when I started chanting "Shaun of the Dead" (Same actors and writers and directors they thought they could just change the name and settings and we would all forget HAHA but I guess the other audience members are too stupid to know that) Or when I was at Hamlet last night, banned for life just because I started chanting WHAT! when the monologue happened. I PAID FOR MY TICKETS and I should have a right to act like a moron, ruin the show, and cause the entire fandom to look like moronic rednecks who'd chant anything for the simple sake of making themselves feel important during a show. In case you haven't caught on the above is sarcasm, screw that chant, screw the people who do it, and especially screw the people who defend it as some sort of "right". Post. of. the. Year.
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Post by Chip on Sept 20, 2013 8:33:26 GMT -5
I hated this chant until someone asked Austin how he felt about it, his reply didn't anger me, just made me disappointed.
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Post by salz4life on Sept 20, 2013 10:20:26 GMT -5
I love Stone Cold.... but "What?", while I enjoyed HIM doing it, is the worst thing he ever brought to WWF/E.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 20, 2013 13:08:53 GMT -5
Quick note about free speech in this case: you don't actually have it.
No, the WWE or the arena they're having their show in can't have cops arrest you for a stupid chant, but they can kick you out over it if they so please. You sign up to live under their rules the instant you purchase one of their tickets. Technically, as a private entity, they can make demands of you because you're willingly abiding by their rules by purchasing a ticket.
...I'm not saying they SHOULD do that, but they CAN do it.
As for "what?!", I don't think it's fair to compare it to a crowd singing Fandango's theme or chanting "YES!" when Bryan does something great; both of those indicate crowd exuberance, and in the case of Bryan it's a positive response that seems to indicate "we're enjoying the show and how you're performing", not "we want to be heard and will willingly derail the feeling of this segment in order to be heard."
"What" has a much more negative connotation; it's an instant "we don't want to hear what you're saying" chant, which can work against big time heels, but it just gets used across the board, seemingly.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 20, 2013 13:12:44 GMT -5
Not only do I hate WHAT, I hate that incarnation of Stone Cold too.
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