RIHT
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Post by RIHT on Sept 22, 2013 20:41:54 GMT -5
So WWE's screwed up a lot. I mean, A LOT. But one of them as to be the Undisputed Champion of screw-ups. Who, or what was it? I've compiled a list of the worst I know of, so go for it. If you choose other, explain in the comment. If you choose Bo Dallas........ then you've got the wrong idea because he's doing just fine.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Sept 22, 2013 20:45:17 GMT -5
Austin vs Hogan should have happened. Some way. Some how.
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Post by An Old Villain on Sept 22, 2013 20:46:31 GMT -5
They had the first crack at THE 'interpromotional' dream match of ...well...ever...and they let it slip through their fingers.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Sept 22, 2013 20:46:59 GMT -5
I don't like Ryder in the slightest, but they seriously messed him up with this. He had a chance to be a very solid upper-midcard talent who sold a ton of merchandise & made them a lot of money. However, they squandered it all.
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Post by Sparkybob on Sept 22, 2013 20:51:29 GMT -5
Not listed but if you want to know how not to book a guy you handpick to be your next superstar babyface? Just watch how the WWE handled Randy Orton post summerslam 2004.
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Post by H-Virus on Sept 22, 2013 20:57:07 GMT -5
Before I vote, how was Chris Jericho a screw up in any sense? Multiple time World, WWE, Intercontinental and Tag Team champion, major hype upon his first arrival in the company (and returns), never seems to lose credibility no matter who or how many times he gets beat? Hell, most of the guys on the roster could only dream of having a career like that. Not listed but if you want to know how not to book a guy you handpick to be your next superstar babyface? Just watch how the WWE handled Randy Orton post summerslam 2004. I'm still convinced that the only reason they put the belt on him at all that year was so they could stick it to Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Mike Strike on Sept 22, 2013 21:05:30 GMT -5
*ctrl+F WCW* *ctrl+F Alliance*
*shakes head in disappoint*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:13:25 GMT -5
Triple H beating Lesnar Triple H beating Orton WM25 in dominant fashion Triple H beating Punk Triple H beating Booker T at WM 19 Triple H getting WHC title handed over to him
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 22, 2013 22:22:32 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like a blind mark, I have to say Alex Riley. No I'm not going to say that they should have pushed him to the moon because he was nowhere near ready for that. However, the reason he was so iffy in the ring was because of the way they handled him during his time with The Miz. When he was with the Miz, Riley was pretty much a glorified non-wrestler, and Riley barely did anything physical apart from getting squashed or eating finishers from the top faces. IF they really wanted to push him, they should've let him get as much ring time as possible so that he could've gained experience and improved his craft when the time did eventually come to push him.
They screwed up with Riley by taking him off TV entirely. Even compared to other low card talents such as Gabriel, Santino, Ryder, or the PTPs, Riley seems to be getting the shaft. Even when an opportunity presents itself to use Alex Riley, they don't. IT's almost as if they go out of their way to avoid using him.
- During Zack Ryder's feud with Ziggler (who Riley was previously feuding with), instead of using Riley to stand in Ryder's corner to ward off Vickie and Swagger, they use Mason Ryan. - When Daniel Bryan won the Beat the Clock Challenge to face off against CM Punk for the WWE Title, instead of having Riley do the job, they have Jerry Lawler get up from the commentary table. - During Antonio Cesaro's U.S. Title reign, they randomly pulled William Regal out of a hat. Also, they ultimately had Cesaro drop the belt to give Kofi another forgettable reign. If he was only going to transition the belt to Ambrose, then let Riley, a guy who has experience working with Ambrose on house shows, do it instead. - They don't even use Riley for the Wheel of Aggression. - They never use Riley for APP exclusives. - During the period of time where Ziggler, Henry, Show, Kofi (and I'm sure a few others) were MIA, they have Daniel Bryan working multiple long matches in a single episode of RAW seemingly just to kill time rather than letting Riley or any other lower midcarder have just a few minutes to shine. - They never give/gave him any type of cameo on the funny YouTube shows such as the now canceled Z! True Long Island Story or Santino's Foreign Exchange, or currently on the JBL and Cole Show. - When they need a fresh new face, Instead of elevating Riley or any other face that they already have, they turn perfectly good heels face. - At Night of Champions, Riley (and Santino) are stuck on the panel while Kofi Kingston gets the random IC Title shot. Even if he was going to lose, it would've been nice to see him wrestle on PPV, even if only for one time. - He was not part of the group of babyfaces who made the save for Daniel Bryan. - During hit current commentary stint on Main Event, we've seen incidents that involved ringside interference. While Riley has stated his displeasure with these tactics on commentary (such as the Ziggler/Axel match), he isn't booked to do anything about it such as making the save for the face or warding off the interfering party. - They had new Paul Heyman Guy Ryback take on another local jobber instead of wrestling someone like Riley.
So no, while Riley was not ready for the big time push they gave him, there was absolutely no real reason to take him off TV entirely. Why he can't be making semi-regular appearances on TV, even in just a jobber role. Other low carders get these little moments every now and then, but he doesn't. He's made massive improvements and has stayed over for all this time. WWE screwed him up by turning the last two years of his career into this massive what if.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 22, 2013 23:09:41 GMT -5
I still assess that Christian was a better fill for the "ultimate opportunist" than Edge was. Edge still could have been the Rated R Superstar and gotten the WHC from Batista and kept the elevation of the title the same as Christian would if won the WWE title.
It's easy to see in hindsight that Christian was never a big deal, but if WWE ever had the opportunity...they had it in 2005. They laid the seeds perfectly for this weaselly little bastard to get under Cena's skin. First Cena doesn't respond, then he responds and doesn't treat it as much...over time Christian does more and more to isolate Cena's attention to the fact that he isn't going to stop. Cena doesn't need to have a difficult time of disposing of Christian, but it's certainly something that is everlasting. Christian comes back time after time finding a means of screwing over Cena. Edge on the other hand is doing the same on SD, and in a lot of ways is better matched against Batista.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 22, 2013 23:31:16 GMT -5
Christian is in first?
At any rate, to me it's the failure to create a new number one face when they had two chances., 2011 with Punk, and even more so, 2012 with Ryback. Both guys were way over with the crowd, and could've taken over Cena's spot as top babyface. I'm not denying that Cena hasn't been great since then, or that he hasn't made money, but WWE clearly had two guys who the crowd wanted to see.
To those who will argue "what if it didn't work", or "Punk is a ratings killer", it's simple: You can always put Cena back in the top spot until someone else is ready! Spots on the card should go up and down, not in a constant circle.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 22, 2013 23:31:41 GMT -5
Nexus
So much potential just wasted by idiocy, bad-booking and a lack of balls by creative to take risks (Like having Cena do more when a part of Nexus)
Although, idiocy, bad-booking and lack of risk taking seems to be the trend for derailing otherwise awesome storylines.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Sept 23, 2013 0:05:18 GMT -5
Nexus So much potential just wasted by idiocy, bad-booking and a lack of balls by creative to take risks (Like having Cena do more when a part of Nexus) Although, idiocy, bad-booking and lack of risk taking seems to be the trend for derailing otherwise awesome storylines. I voted Nexus as well. The Nexus's story was something that to me felt completely different in a show where nothing is ever different. I still say they could've grown the business if Nexus was done correctly.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 23, 2013 0:13:19 GMT -5
I voted Nexus as well. The Nexus's story was something that to me felt completely different in a show where nothing is ever different. I still say they could've grown the business if Nexus was done correctly. I honestly think the group could have been this generations NWO. But, it stated to go down hill from the get-go when they decided to "release" Daniel Bryan because some corporate pencil necks complained. Then when they decided to have Team Nexus lose against Team WWE in their first PPV match. Looking back, some of WWE's decisions during that storyline were baffling. Although, their biggest mistake imo was trying to overcomplicate the story with the "bigger picture" with no clue where they actually wanted to go with that. It was fine without it as Wade Barrett leading a group of disgruntled wrestlers fed up with the way they were treated on NXT wanting to basically destroy the WWE and cause as much destruction as possible. They didn't need a "bigger picture" or any underlying motive.
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Post by Essential1 on Sept 23, 2013 0:24:36 GMT -5
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 23, 2013 0:31:37 GMT -5
The Invasion
The dream storyline for all wrestling fans, and they botched it.
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Post by Essential1 on Sept 23, 2013 0:48:01 GMT -5
Oh what have I done. It's the bigger picture.
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Post by cool guy on Sept 23, 2013 1:52:16 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like a blind mark, I have to say Alex Riley. No I'm not going to say that they should have pushed him to the moon because he was nowhere near ready for that. However, the reason he was so iffy in the ring was because of the way they handled him during his time with The Miz. When he was with the Miz, Riley was pretty much a glorified non-wrestler, and Riley barely did anything physical apart from getting squashed or eating finishers from the top faces. IF they really wanted to push him, they should've let him get as much ring time as possible so that he could've gained experience and improved his craft when the time did eventually come to push him. They screwed up with Riley by taking him off TV entirely. Even compared to other low card talents such as Gabriel, Santino, Ryder, or the PTPs, Riley seems to be getting the shaft. Even when an opportunity presents itself to use Alex Riley, they don't. IT's almost as if they go out of their way to avoid using him. - During Zack Ryder's feud with Ziggler (who Riley was previously feuding with), instead of using Riley to stand in Ryder's corner to ward off Vickie and Swagger, they use Mason Ryan. - When Daniel Bryan won the Beat the Clock Challenge to face off against CM Punk for the WWE Title, instead of having Riley do the job, they have Jerry Lawler get up from the commentary table. - During Antonio Cesaro's U.S. Title reign, they randomly pulled William Regal out of a hat. Also, they ultimately had Cesaro drop the belt to give Kofi another forgettable reign. If he was only going to transition the belt to Ambrose, then let Riley, a guy who has experience working with Ambrose on house shows, do it instead. - They don't even use Riley for the Wheel of Aggression. - They never use Riley for APP exclusives. - During the period of time where Ziggler, Henry, Show, Kofi (and I'm sure a few others) were MIA, they have Daniel Bryan working multiple long matches in a single episode of RAW seemingly just to kill time rather than letting Riley or any other lower midcarder have just a few minutes to shine. - They never give/gave him any type of cameo on the funny YouTube shows such as the now canceled Z! True Long Island Story or Santino's Foreign Exchange, or currently on the JBL and Cole Show. - When they need a fresh new face, Instead of elevating Riley or any other face that they already have, they turn perfectly good heels face. - At Night of Champions, Riley (and Santino) are stuck on the panel while Kofi Kingston gets the random IC Title shot. Even if he was going to lose, it would've been nice to see him wrestle on PPV, even if only for one time. - He was not part of the group of babyfaces who made the save for Daniel Bryan. - During hit current commentary stint on Main Event, we've seen incidents that involved ringside interference. While Riley has stated his displeasure with these tactics on commentary (such as the Ziggler/Axel match), he isn't booked to do anything about it such as making the save for the face or warding off the interfering party. - They had new Paul Heyman Guy Ryback take on another local jobber instead of wrestling someone like Riley. So no, while Riley was not ready for the big time push they gave him, there was absolutely no real reason to take him off TV entirely. Why he can't be making semi-regular appearances on TV, even in just a jobber role. Other low carders get these little moments every now and then, but he doesn't. He's made massive improvements and has stayed over for all this time. WWE screwed him up by turning the last two years of his career into this massive what if. Oh my f***ing god, dude.
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 23, 2013 2:09:50 GMT -5
Easily the Invasion, but on that list I'll go with Nexus.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 23, 2013 3:16:32 GMT -5
The Nexus was awful. As soon as Cena won, because of course he did, they were over. You're not a threat. Then Cena "joins" and there's no way in hell they are giving one f***ing cent of his Tshirt money for ANY reason, so he's just sort of Cena with other guys.
I don't even remember how the hell Punk got involved.
Although refusing to keep Punk off TV for over a week killed off the Summer of Punk angle. That was badly botched too. I was so excited when he left with the belt, so excited when he "crashed" Comic Con. He's the one guy at the time who could have shown up in ROH or random Indy shows with the belt and not have the fans turn on him but they screwed up. Be patient and it would have been fine.
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