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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 13:24:51 GMT -5
I can't imagine that any kid would ever think this was a reference to something. If anything, they would probably think the joke was that Bert has such a dry personality that he was reading about the fifty different colors of oatmeal.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 23, 2013 13:29:02 GMT -5
The neat part is that as a parent you have the opportunity and responsibility to explain to your child what the reference means in case you're asked. You have the chance to actually parent, to teach your child about knowledge of sexuality and its various and complex expressions, rather than being like groups such as the Parents Television Council who attempt to police the content of Sesame Street because they are offended by the content merely because its existence alone or who are otherwise too lazy to communicate such information about people in the real world. You're saying it's okay to reference S&M on Sesame Street, essentially. Hey, while we're at it, let's reference meth and prison rape. I mean, why not? It'd force all of us "lazy" parents to explain stuff to our children that they don't need to be thinking about yet. Programming like Sesame Street when I was growing up was a safe haven for kids to enjoy something innocent, which is damned important considering the fact that we live in a far from innocent world. Don't ever, EVER come at a parent with that condescending bullshit. I don't know. If they show Ernie whipping Bert while he's wearing a ball gag and we'll talk. It's a book about oatmeal. That's all there is to it.
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Post by Viva on Sept 23, 2013 13:31:15 GMT -5
The neat part is that as a parent you have the opportunity and responsibility to explain to your child what the reference means in case you're asked. You have the chance to actually parent, to teach your child about knowledge of sexuality and its various and complex expressions, rather than being like groups such as the Parents Television Council who attempt to police the content of Sesame Street because they are offended by the content merely because its existence alone or who are otherwise too lazy to communicate such information about people in the real world. You're saying it's okay to reference S&M on Sesame Street, essentially. Hey, while we're at it, let's reference meth and prison rape. I mean, why not? It'd force all of us "lazy" parents to explain stuff to our children that they don't need to be thinking about yet. Programming like Sesame Street when I was growing up was a safe haven for kids to enjoy something innocent, which is damned important considering the fact that we live in a far from innocent world. Don't ever, EVER come at a parent with that condescending bullshit. "I'm not the uppity type." *proceeds to be the MOST uppity* Just because you preface it doesn't mean you aren't being what you prefaced that you aren't.
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 23, 2013 13:33:40 GMT -5
I'm not the "kids are stupid" type, but they're not THAT smart either. I don't think they're gonna see anything more than Bert reading a book. If they even notice the title I doubt they'll do a search on it, and on the major off chance they do, that's where parenting comes in.
And Sesame Street have made jokes for adults before, which I thought was the whole point of the Katy Perry cameo a few years back.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Sept 23, 2013 13:41:07 GMT -5
To me, this looks more like a subtle joke for any adults watching the show with their kids. Any kids, especially those at the age that watch Sesame Street, aren't going to get the joke at all. Hell, they probably won't even be aware of the joke. Exactly. I'm not a parent but I have a younger sibling and I always loved these kind of jokes. It's just there for the adults to chuckle at if they happen to be paying attention. Pretty harmless stuff really. I've seen MUCH worse on Spongebob.
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Post by Toxik916 on Sept 23, 2013 13:52:16 GMT -5
That was actually really funny. Kids wouldn't even notice this little reference at all.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 23, 2013 13:54:37 GMT -5
Can Sesame's target audience even read?
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Post by Razor Gives It A 4/10 on Sept 23, 2013 14:01:08 GMT -5
Bert upon learning what the original book is. ![](http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bert_eyes.gif)
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Post by wildojinx on Sept 23, 2013 15:37:01 GMT -5
This is nothing new, they did parodies of Mad Men, 30 Rock, and even Twin Peaks (they even had cookie monster doing the "damn fine pie" line, though they changed it to "darn")
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 23, 2013 15:39:12 GMT -5
This is nothing new, they did parodies of Mad Men, 30 Rock, and even Twin Peaks (they even had cookie monster doing the "damn fine coffee" line, though they changed it to "darn") Sesame Street's done title parodies of Sex in the City, True Blood, and Law and Order:SVU for pete's sake. This is pretty low key for them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 15:42:53 GMT -5
The neat part is that as a parent you have the opportunity and responsibility to explain to your child what the reference means in case you're asked. You have the chance to actually parent, to teach your child about knowledge of sexuality and its various and complex expressions, rather than being like groups such as the Parents Television Council who attempt to police the content of Sesame Street because they are offended by the content merely because its existence alone or who are otherwise too lazy to communicate such information about people in the real world. You're saying it's okay to reference S&M on Sesame Street, essentially. Hey, while we're at it, let's reference meth and prison rape. I mean, why not? It'd force all of us "lazy" parents to explain stuff to our children that they don't need to be thinking about yet. Programming like Sesame Street when I was growing up was a safe haven for kids to enjoy something innocent, which is damned important considering the fact that we live in a far from innocent world. Don't ever, EVER come at a parent with that condescending bullshit. Condescension aside what is the worst case scenario that comes from this joke? On the surface it's a book about oatmeal, there's no reason any kid in the Sesame Street demographic would think any deeper than that.
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Post by BrianZane on Sept 23, 2013 16:02:31 GMT -5
Seriously though, that "Angry Parent" post had to be one of the most pearl-clutchingest, crotchety-old-manningest things I've ever read.
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 23, 2013 16:24:12 GMT -5
"The series has sold over 70 million copies worldwide,[3] with book rights having been sold in 37 countries,[4] and set the record as the fastest-selling paperback of all time, surpassing the Harry Potter series." - WikipediaIt's a popular book series, regardless of the SandM subject matter. It will be parodied as a result, this should be common knowledge. Sesame Street is no exception, their 'G-rated' transformation of it into oatmeal is cute. And really, considering where children ultimately come from (hint S-E-X) it's rather incredulous to get mad at the writers for putting in a joke that will obviously fly FAR over their heads. If only parents get the wink-wink-nudge-nudge it's a great reminder of what originally brought their little one into the world (i.e. irresponsible love makin'!)
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Post by wildojinx on Sept 23, 2013 16:28:19 GMT -5
I cant wait for their walking dead parody (finally an excuse to bring out the retired characters like don music, sam the robot, roosevelt franklin, that shady "wanna buy an e?" guy and others).
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 23, 2013 16:44:43 GMT -5
This is nothing new, they did parodies of Mad Men, 30 Rock, and even Twin Peaks (they even had cookie monster doing the "damn fine coffee" line, though they changed it to "darn") Sesame Street's done title parodies of Sex in the City, True Blood, and Law and Order:SVU for pete's sake. This is pretty low key for them. I marked for their "Birdwalk Empire" bit.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 23, 2013 16:47:58 GMT -5
Man, the next thing you know there's gonna be just titties everywhere on Sesame Street.
Oh. (Buffy Sainte Marie is the coolest!)
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 23, 2013 16:56:54 GMT -5
"Daddy, what's hat book he's reading?"
"It's a book they made up for the show."
You're not even lying, it is a joke book they made up for the show. I don't see any situation where a child of Sesame Street's demographic is going spawn an S&M discussion from it from seeing it, because it's probably not something they'll even notice or remember by the time the show is over. I get the shock in a sort of "wow, they really did this?" sort of way, but unless adults make a big out of it, it's going to disappear without a single awkward conversation.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 23, 2013 17:17:59 GMT -5
The neat part is that as a parent you have the opportunity and responsibility to explain to your child what the reference means in case you're asked. You have the chance to actually parent, to teach your child about knowledge of sexuality and its various and complex expressions, rather than being like groups such as the Parents Television Council who attempt to police the content of Sesame Street because they are offended by the content merely because its existence alone or who are otherwise too lazy to communicate such information about people in the real world. You're saying it's okay to reference S&M on Sesame Street, essentially. Hey, while we're at it, let's reference meth and prison rape. I mean, why not? It'd force all of us "lazy" parents to explain stuff to our children that they don't need to be thinking about yet. Programming like Sesame Street when I was growing up was a safe haven for kids to enjoy something innocent, which is damned important considering the fact that we live in a far from innocent world. Don't ever, EVER come at a parent with that condescending bullshit. Sesame Street when I grew up decided to teach me about death. I was six when Hooper died. Katy Perry's cleavage has been on Sesame Street. I don't think a mild in-joke for adults that will go completely over the heads of FIVE YEAR OLDS is anything to get bent out of shape. By the same token, might as well not let the kids watch any Looney Tunes or Animaniacs; I could fill pages on this forum with the adult in-jokes in those.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 17:44:36 GMT -5
You're saying it's okay to reference S&M on Sesame Street, essentially. Hey, while we're at it, let's reference meth and prison rape. I mean, why not? It'd force all of us "lazy" parents to explain stuff to our children that they don't need to be thinking about yet. Programming like Sesame Street when I was growing up was a safe haven for kids to enjoy something innocent, which is damned important considering the fact that we live in a far from innocent world. Don't ever, EVER come at a parent with that condescending bullshit. Sesame Street when I grew up decided to teach me about death. I was six when Hooper died. Katy Perry's cleavage has been on Sesame Street. I don't think a mild in-joke for adults that will go completely over the heads of FIVE YEAR OLDS is anything to get bent out of shape. By the same token, might as well not let the kids watch any Looney Tunes or Animaniacs; I could fill pages on this forum with the adult in-jokes in those. I grew up watching Pee-Wee's Playhouse and Ren & Stimpy. I mean, we can't even act like the stuff some of us grew up with didn't work in jokes like this. That's just if you narrow it down to the stuff some of us watched as kids. Have you seen the shit they get away with it shows like Adventure Time and Gravity Falls? Adventure Time just had an episode referencing the budding sexuality of a main character, though it's referenced in such a surreal way kids will probably miss it, but...
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 23, 2013 17:46:57 GMT -5
Ooooooookay. Let's take a breather. First off, I don't agree that you should explain to your kids what the book is a reference to. I'll do it! "You see, Timmy, your Mommy is a horribly shallow human being who is vicariously living through a vapid one-dimensional character with no true self-respect who allows herself to be treated as a piece of meat in exchange for money, gifts and the opportunity to hopefully mold a dangerous, handsome sociopathic billionaire into what she wants him to be, simply because of her own disturbed ego. And that is why we're getting a divorce."
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