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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 7, 2013 15:54:11 GMT -5
For the people wanting most if not all superstars to have some long brakes, I have a question.
Why will most of the guys want the break? Anytime you leave you can easily lose your spot,your overness and probably most importantly some nice paychecks just to stay at home relaxing.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 7, 2013 16:09:37 GMT -5
For the people wanting most if not all superstars to have some long brakes, I have a question. Why will most of the guys want the break? Anytime you leave you can easily lose your spot,your overness and probably most importantly some nice paychecks just to stay at home relaxing. They should be paid anyway. It's a false economy to keep them going all the time with no breaks. The audience can get bored of them, and injuries can pile up. Taking a break could be beneficial to their overness, not to mention their physical and mental health. The company will benefit from always having a fresh roster with phased time-on and time-off.
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Post by sybaku on Oct 7, 2013 16:12:09 GMT -5
Hey an RVD thread, I wonder if it will be full of a bunch lame cliche stoner jokes from a bunch of people who have obviously never smoked?
Checks Thread.
Yep.
Also who says he gets taken out by Del Rio, last time Y2J left all the happened was Ryback hit him with Shellshock.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 7, 2013 16:17:53 GMT -5
For the people wanting most if not all superstars to have some long brakes, I have a question. Why will most of the guys want the break? Anytime you leave you can easily lose your spot,your overness and probably most importantly some nice paychecks just to stay at home relaxing. They should be paid anyway. It's a false economy to keep them going all the time with no breaks. The audience can get bored of them, and injuries can pile up. Taking a break could be beneficial to their overness, not to mention their physical and mental health. The company will benefit from always having a fresh roster with phased time-on and time-off. Is this going to be a force vacation? Like is the WWE going to tell Cesaro/Fandango, Hey you're going to be off of TV for 3 months. I just don't see that going over well in the locker room.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 7, 2013 16:38:30 GMT -5
Some sort of off-season, if they could get it to work logistically, would be beneficial to just about everybody.
They won't cuz they're still holding onto this archaic, and bullshit, "independent contractor" model of doing things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 16:47:10 GMT -5
Some sort of off-season, if they could get it to work logistically, would be beneficial to just about everybody. They won't cuz they're still holding onto this archaic, and bullshit, "independent contractor" model of doing things. the only problem that I can think of regarding the off-season would be that guys wouldn't want to be forced to take 3-4 months off and only get their downside instead of getting all of the TV/PPV/house show payouts that they would get by working. Other than that it's pretty simple just have one crew work from January-September and the other crew work from September to April. Everyone gets 3 or so months off and all hands are on deck for Wrestlemania season and Summerslam.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 7, 2013 16:53:35 GMT -5
If the entire roster were to get a same time 3 month downtime, I think the best time would be between SummerSlam and Survivor Series.
1)Most stories post SummerSlam (with some exceptions) have been bleh.
2)Cuts down on PPVs
3)Survivor Series gains more importance, being the "returning" PPV. Make the Survivor Series Elimination Matches a "Hey, remember these guys? They're back!" sort of thing.
But the idea of the "Certain guys on this section, certain on that" idea works too.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Oct 7, 2013 17:09:37 GMT -5
For the people wanting most if not all superstars to have some long brakes, I have a question. Why will most of the guys want the break? Anytime you leave you can easily lose your spot,your overness and probably most importantly some nice paychecks just to stay at home relaxing. Well, ideally they'd be salaried, totally independently of how many matches they work, so they wouldn't lose any paychecks. Spot and overness would depend on actually writing around the breaks. People would get in for a feud or a storyline and then get out for a rest. The whole stupid thing about individual wrestlers "getting over" wouldn't apply, because there wouldn't be the independent contractor thing (and because it's a holdover from fifty damn years ago). Of course, that whole system makes the McMahons, et al. a lot of money, so no sign it'd change. Wrecked knees for everyone, then, I guess.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 7, 2013 17:15:10 GMT -5
For the people wanting most if not all superstars to have some long brakes, I have a question. Why will most of the guys want the break? Anytime you leave you can easily lose your spot,your overness and probably most importantly some nice paychecks just to stay at home relaxing. Well, ideally they'd be salaried, totally independently of how many matches they work, so they wouldn't lose any paychecks. Spot and overness would depend on actually writing around the breaks. People would get in for a feud or a storyline and then get out for a rest. The whole stupid thing about individual wrestlers "getting over" wouldn't apply, because there wouldn't be the independent contractor thing (and because it's a holdover from fifty damn years ago). Of course, that whole system makes the McMahons, et al. a lot of money, so no sign it'd change. Wrecked knees for everyone, then, I guess. Well the wrestlers will get their downside, but for most guys that isn't that much. Top young guys with low downside side salaries like Axel/Sandow/Cesaro will not get their t.v/houseshow/PPV bonuses that really help supplment their income. I don't see many wrestlers giving that up willing. There is also a realistic fear of losing your spot on the card if you do leave. The WWE can make all these promises that you will jump right back into the spotlight, but a hot angle here, a wrestler getting over there, and all of the sudden you get moved down the card without doing anything wrong.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Oct 7, 2013 17:17:51 GMT -5
Well, ideally they'd be salaried, totally independently of how many matches they work, so they wouldn't lose any paychecks. Spot and overness would depend on actually writing around the breaks. People would get in for a feud or a storyline and then get out for a rest. The whole stupid thing about individual wrestlers "getting over" wouldn't apply, because there wouldn't be the independent contractor thing (and because it's a holdover from fifty damn years ago). Of course, that whole system makes the McMahons, et al. a lot of money, so no sign it'd change. Wrecked knees for everyone, then, I guess. Well the wrestlers will get their downside, but for most guys that isn't that much. Top young guys with low downside side salaries like Axel/Sandow/Cesaro will not get their t.v/houseshow/PPV bonuses that really help supplment their income. I don't see many wrestlers giving that up willing. There is also a realistic fear of losing your spot on the card if you do leave. The WWE can make all these promises that you will jump right back into the spotlight, but a hot angle here, a wrestler getting over there, and all of the sudden you get moved down the card without doing anything wrong. Well, that's what I'm saying. Ideally, all that stuff would change, because it's all that stuff that keeps most people from taking the time off their bodies need.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 17:20:30 GMT -5
This book will be about 7 pages long and will randomly end in the middle of a word after RVD needed to take a smoke break and forgets about it for 3 months, and just sends in what he has. WRONG! 420 pages. Yeah. 420 pages, but the writing would still end on page 7.
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Post by rybackrulez on Oct 7, 2013 17:34:54 GMT -5
Sounds like a deal Jericho would like. Sounds like a deal any wrestler would like. They should all have something like this, but staggered. It basically gives the big stars an off season. This could be good for tv.
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Post by SenorCrest on Oct 7, 2013 17:40:05 GMT -5
Well, ideally they'd be salaried, totally independently of how many matches they work, so they wouldn't lose any paychecks. Spot and overness would depend on actually writing around the breaks. People would get in for a feud or a storyline and then get out for a rest. The whole stupid thing about individual wrestlers "getting over" wouldn't apply, because there wouldn't be the independent contractor thing (and because it's a holdover from fifty damn years ago). Of course, that whole system makes the McMahons, et al. a lot of money, so no sign it'd change. Wrecked knees for everyone, then, I guess. Well the wrestlers will get their downside, but for most guys that isn't that much. Top young guys with low downside side salaries like Axel/Sandow/Cesaro will not get their t.v/houseshow/PPV bonuses that really help supplment their income. I don't see many wrestlers giving that up willing. There is also a realistic fear of losing your spot on the card if you do leave. The WWE can make all these promises that you will jump right back into the spotlight, but a hot angle here, a wrestler getting over there, and all of the sudden you get moved down the card without doing anything wrong. you can also have it based on time in the company. Main eventer and vets get their choosing of time off while lower card guys get it when they make a certain amount of time(or money) in the company
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 7, 2013 17:46:11 GMT -5
Well the wrestlers will get their downside, but for most guys that isn't that much. Top young guys with low downside side salaries like Axel/Sandow/Cesaro will not get their t.v/houseshow/PPV bonuses that really help supplment their income. I don't see many wrestlers giving that up willing. There is also a realistic fear of losing your spot on the card if you do leave. The WWE can make all these promises that you will jump right back into the spotlight, but a hot angle here, a wrestler getting over there, and all of the sudden you get moved down the card without doing anything wrong. you can also have it based on time in the company. Main eventer and vets get their choosing of time off while lower card guys get it when they make a certain amount of time(or money) in the company Yea I don't see a problem with true main eventers (Punk,Cena,Orton) or old time vets (Kane,RVD,Jericho,Beeg,Henry) asking and getting time off. I just don't see how many midcarders really are up for that with the reasons I stated above.
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Post by percymania on Oct 7, 2013 18:47:58 GMT -5
So basically every 90 days RVD is going to get massively stoned, clean his system out, then come back to the WWE for a couple months. I'm on to you, RVD!
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 7, 2013 22:27:52 GMT -5
Am I the only one who is baffled as to why WWE would sign guys to this kind of deal? It makes it impossible to ever truly get behind a guy because all you really get is 3 PPVs at a time, maybe 4 in this case. One single feud can last that long.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 0:18:30 GMT -5
Hey an RVD thread, I wonder if it will be full of a bunch lame cliche stoner jokes from a bunch of people who have obviously never smoked? Checks Thread. Yep. Also who says he gets taken out by Del Rio, last time Y2J left all the happened was Ryback hit him with Shellshock. Shellshock is the name of a chain of 420 stores in my city. The service is meh but lots of inventory that's for sure
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