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Post by Instant Classic on Oct 8, 2013 2:32:55 GMT -5
CM Punk of 2011 or Daniel Bryan of 2013?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 8, 2013 2:36:37 GMT -5
D-Bry, easily.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Oct 8, 2013 2:43:06 GMT -5
Depends on what you mean.
I think CM Punk was more over in a different, grander scale. He was getting mainstream media attention and buzz to not only himself, but the product. Fact of the matter is, he was hot at the time and could've been the thing WWE has been desperately trying to search for since Rock.
Bryan, mean while, does not have that grander scale of attention. But I feel the crowds at the shows are overall more into his shtick and react more to practically every single thing he does than they did with Punk. Which is good, though debatable if it could ever eventually translate into more media attention for the company and get them that wide spread appeal Punk did get them, and potentially could've sustained for a while for them had they not shot themselves in the foot with him.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Oct 8, 2013 3:19:19 GMT -5
By crowd reaction outside of Chicago it's Bryan. I still voted Punk anyways because it's simply a reason for people to make a gesture and chant Yes. If not for that Punk easily.
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Post by nate5054 on Oct 8, 2013 3:29:18 GMT -5
Bryan, almost solely because he has an easy chant that everyone can do.
I love Bryan and can't wait until he gets the gold for a good run, but I honestly wonder if it's him that's over or the chant (and yes, I know it's some combo of both).
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Post by CH Punk on Oct 8, 2013 7:31:52 GMT -5
Bryan's loved by everyone.
CM Punk will never be popular in the south.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Oct 8, 2013 7:43:42 GMT -5
Punk was never that popular. He's a hero in Chicago ok, but some fangirls of his on this forum would love to think he was on Stone Cold levels of overness but that's obviously not the case. He has a strong fanbase, but fails to connect with the casual audience.
The hirsute face, the fun Yes! chants, the furious bursts of energy make Bryan popular with everyone. Punk is just a smartass that throws smarkish references with a smug "did you get that one" smirk on his face.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Oct 8, 2013 8:00:15 GMT -5
You know, this question makes me wonder something. If they'd done the current storyline with Bryan back in 2011 with Punk, with Del Rio in Orton's place, instead of Kevin Nash texting himself and all the nonsense that came out of that, how different do you reckon things might've went?
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Post by EyeofTyr on Oct 8, 2013 8:05:30 GMT -5
You know, this question makes me wonder something. If they'd done the current storyline with Bryan back in 2011 with Punk, with Del Rio in Orton's place, instead of Kevin Nash texting himself and all the nonsense that came out of that, how different do you reckon things might've went? Drastically.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 8, 2013 8:20:32 GMT -5
Bryan feels like a genuine good guy trying to break through to the top. It's hard to not like him unless you are that dude that kicks baby puppies. It's natural to like him.
Punk even at his most babyface moment still feels/acts like a jerkass. While I love it, I completely understand why many don't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 10:10:08 GMT -5
Bryan as far as "how noisy is the building right now?"
Punk on a wider scale I think, since he seems to have built some out of wrestling recognition.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 8, 2013 11:50:54 GMT -5
Bryan hasn't been undercut like Punk was. Bryan gets to feud with HHH where HHH is the unlikeable condescending heel. Punk gets to feud with HHH where HHH is the noble husband and benevolent executive really trying to the right thing for everyone.
There is an argument that Daniel Bryan is a more likeable person in general, but his portrayal in the storyline is much more sympathetic than CM Punk's was especially when they brought HHH into it and had him be the good guy and Punk be the annoying jerk who is too stubborn to cooperate with people.
If Punk had left Summerslam 2011 with the title and then transitioned into being in Bryan's place against an evil corporate HHH and Stephanie backing asshole Randy Orton I think he would be just as over as Bryan is.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Oct 8, 2013 11:56:42 GMT -5
Love them both, but Bryan easily wins here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 11:58:21 GMT -5
Punk was never that popular. He's a hero in Chicago ok, but some fangirls of his on this forum would love to think he was on Stone Cold levels of overness but that's obviously not the case. He has a strong fanbase, but fails to connect with the casual audience. The hirsute face, the fun Yes! chants, the furious bursts of energy make Bryan popular with everyone. Punk is just a smartass that throws smarkish references with a smug "did you get that one" smirk on his face. Punk pretty consistently gets some of the loudest pops in the company outside of Chicago, topped only by Bryan. I wouldn't compare him to Austin. But "never that popular"? He's extremely popular.
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Post by Some Guy on Oct 8, 2013 12:39:40 GMT -5
Bryan's loved by everyone. CM Punk will never be popular in the south. Never? I guess we're just going to ignore him getting cheered in Memphis while he beat down Jerry Lawler as a heel. Punk was never that popular. He's a hero in Chicago ok, but some fangirls of his on this forum would love to think he was on Stone Cold levels of overness but that's obviously not the case. He has a strong fanbase, but fails to connect with the casual audience. The hirsute face, the fun Yes! chants, the furious bursts of energy make Bryan popular with everyone. Punk is just a smartass that throws smarkish references with a smug "did you get that one" smirk on his face. How does Punk fail to connect with the casual audience? I don't understand this, he gets MONSTER pops every single night.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 8, 2013 15:38:22 GMT -5
Bryan does a great job with the one thing I think is Punk's weakness, and that's audience involvement. Face Punk felt like he could have these feuds in an empty arena and it wouldn't matter, he was focused on his opponent and his storyline, but really didn't do fan involvement. Bryan does that, and maybe it's simplistic, but it's working. Let me put it this way, if I am watching on TV, I find what Punk does more intellectually stimulating, but I wouldn't have to buy a ticket to see him at his best, because you're not really getting anymore more then you see in the ring. Bryan on the other hand, I would pay to see, because their is involvement. It's underrated. It's what made Hogan and Rock as big as they are.
Punk, and I think he is entertaining, falls into that Triple H too cool to pander for an audience response area, where Bryan obviously does not.
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