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Post by Urfarkendarf on Oct 11, 2013 21:25:29 GMT -5
Success is a relative term here, basically any guy or gal who made it to one of the big companies had to have had at least a little bit of success to make it there. Whether or not they maintained it or did anything past making it is another story.
#1 Konnan - I never understood what anyone saw in this guy. He sucked on the mic, he looked like an idiot, and his in ring work was pedestrian at best. I'll give that he had at least a little bit of charisma, but so what? I always questioned what got him where he was when WCW was at its peak. Its not a shocker he never got invited to the WWE.
#2 Shawn Stasiak - He may have been a 2nd or 3rd generation guy, but you'd never have guessed it watching him.
#3 Carlito
#4 JTG
#5 Jeff Jarrett - Jeff is probably the most talented of the people I've listed here, but he's always come across to me as second rate. He's not great at anything, but he's not horrible at anything. His WCW pushes were mindboggling (Slapnuts was the worst catchphrase ever), but at least his TNA ones made sense considering his lofty status in that company. Another one like Konnan whose WWE absence after the WCW purchase didnt surprise me.
#6 Zack Ryder - I never did understand what anyone saw in him during his Youtube show and people following him phase. The Youtube show wasnt bad, but his character is easily one of the most annoying in history, and not in a heel way. He's genuinely unlikable. Not a bad in ring competitor, but not good either. Blah. While I didn't like him during that brief period, I do respect that he tried something unique and did get over for a period of time basically by his own doing.
#7 Chuck Palumbo
#8 Mike Sanders
#9 Bobby Lashley - Outside of his physique, a terribly unexciting wrestler and his promo ability was so laughable it deserves to be lauded for its ridiculousness. I guess I'm a bathturd.
#10 David Otunga - LOL I just remembered just now that he even exists.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 11, 2013 21:32:18 GMT -5
Wade Barrett. I guess I'm just missing something with him.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 11, 2013 21:36:01 GMT -5
Wade Barrett. I guess I'm just missing something with him. Barrett just has this presence and this "swag" about him.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 11, 2013 21:36:52 GMT -5
HHH - I understand his success to some degree, he's a talented worker, but I never thought he should of reached the level he did. He always seemed better suited to a midcard role than as the top guy in the company; His matches for the IC Title against the likes of the Rock were some of his best work. Even his work against Marc Mero was some of his best, in my opinion.
As much as I loved his match with Foley at the Rumble in 2000 - still one of my favourites - that's one of the only examples I can think of when it comes to a favourite match of mine with him as the top guy. He's had two of the most boring Wrestlemania main events in the shows history - against Jericho & Orton - & a over inflated ego of his career.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 11, 2013 21:37:17 GMT -5
Not a popular opinion but to me Konnan and Double J represent the very best of what it is to be a pro wrestler. So passionate in their work and such defined characters. I'd trade 10 Dolph Zigglers for one of either of them.
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Post by Chip on Oct 11, 2013 21:39:24 GMT -5
#1 Konnan - I never understood what anyone saw in this guy. He sucked on the mic, he looked like an idiot, and his in ring work was pedestrian at best. I'll give that he had at least a little bit of charisma, but so what? I always questioned what got him where he was when WCW was at its peak. Its not a shocker he never got invited to the WWE.
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Post by metylerca on Oct 11, 2013 21:39:39 GMT -5
Miz.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 21:42:21 GMT -5
OP isn't bowdy bowdy and rowdy rowdy. Must be one of those strawberries in the Wolfpac talking about they're 4 Life, but we're 4 Ever.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 11, 2013 21:43:23 GMT -5
OP isn't bowdy bowdy and rowdy rowdy. Must be one of those strawberries in the Wolfpac talking about they're 4 Life, but we're 4 Ever. The OP can toss my salad!
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Post by bob on Oct 11, 2013 21:45:03 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio
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Post by fw91 on Oct 11, 2013 21:47:28 GMT -5
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 11, 2013 21:52:37 GMT -5
Miz has heart and passion for the business.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 11, 2013 21:56:38 GMT -5
Miz has heart and passion for the business. So do the janitors.
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Post by An Old Villain on Oct 11, 2013 22:09:22 GMT -5
>mfw people heap praise on Alex Riley The guy just....yeah, I don't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 22:12:12 GMT -5
OP isn't bowdy bowdy and rowdy rowdy. Must be one of those strawberries in the Wolfpac talking about they're 4 Life, but we're 4 Ever. The OP can toss my salad! And peel my potatoes!
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Post by Chip on Oct 11, 2013 22:19:12 GMT -5
I think I may have to go with Viscera, sure he never really made it past the midcard but why did this guy come back time and again under a new name and gimmick? The guy was never any good, he was nothing special in the ring and I can't even really remember if he ever cut a good promo. The most notable parts of his career were breaking Takers face, almost breaking Nash's back (this was his FIRST run), being a background player in the Ministry and having a stupid finish where he appeared to hump dudes.
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Post by rydndirty on Oct 11, 2013 22:26:29 GMT -5
Bob Holly.
The man Main Evented Royal Rumble against Brock Lesnar in a title match.
How? How did this happen?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 11, 2013 22:27:21 GMT -5
>mfw people heap praise on Alex Riley The guy just....yeah, I don't get it. Alex Riley is a guy who shouldn't even be over, yet he is. He's a "cookie cutter generic WWE clone with a bland look" who isn't "good" in the ring, and yet he somehow managed to win the hearts of "the IWC" despite having all of those strikes against him. Believe it or not, there was a time when even I hated Alex Riley. When he was a heel first as the Varsity Villain and then as Miz's bro-servant, I found him boring in the ring, and on the mic he came off as a kid playing wrestling with his friends and I wanted to face palm every time he opened his mouth, although I really enjoyed their chemistry as a duo. Back then I saw Riley in a "so bad, he's good" way. When he turned face, Riley just wowed me with his fire and intensity, and his athleticism. He has such a quickness and fluid mobility that a person of his size and particular build should not have. And for a bigger guy, he plays the little man/face-in-peril role pretty damn good. He looks like a bodybuilder, but you can tell he trains like an athlete. His in ring performances were clunky, mainly due to WWE keeping him mostly out of the ring and not letting him get further experience during his time with the Miz, but you could tell he was passionate about wrestling. When they killed his push and sent him down to the C-Shows, I watched him every week and watched him steadily improve. He's arguably the most improved talent I've ever seen, going from being this awkward performer with sloppy offense to a pretty damn solid in ring worker. That's why I'm always going on about how he deserves a second chance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 22:30:05 GMT -5
Bob Holly. The man Main Evented Royal Rumble against Brock Lesnar in a title match. How? How did this happen? The only reason he got that match was because he sandbagged Brock and Brock broke his neck, he was just someone for Brock to kick ass on without having to free up a top guy.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 11, 2013 22:33:48 GMT -5
Bob Holly. The man Main Evented Royal Rumble against Brock Lesnar in a title match. How? How did this happen? He had the best dropkick in this business.
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