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Post by Red Impact on Oct 16, 2013 12:41:46 GMT -5
Why though? He can't give you anything beyond a nostalgia appearance, he's too broken down to do anything more, so why would they throw even large sums of $ at him, much less absurd? Hulk's got no real bargaining chip with WWE anymore. I think that's why he is saying he has one more match in him, to increase his value. TNA, as much as people want to deny it, did see early returns in the ratings for Hogan's arrival. They were consistently drawing at or near 2 million viewers a week for Impact prior to the failed Monday move. Granted, that was 3+ years ago, and Hulk's been on TV practically every week since then, but the novelty of Hulk Hogan might still be there, especially in the WWE where the audience is much wider and the marketing is much better. If Hulk feels he can wrestle, even if it's in a tag team match where his involvement/bump taking is limited, and WWE feels they can make some money off that, then it is reasonable to think the WWE would value him. The problem is that no big star wants the "ambassador" role because when you reach the level that Hogan reached, that role would be castrating his career in a way (i.e. telling him it is the end of the road for him). Anyone with a big ego would have trouble accepting that, and that's not just limited to wrestling. If you told Michael Jordan to be the ambassador of the NBA for less pay, he'd probably feel he was too good for that role as well. Hulk should go back to the WWE, especially for WM 30. Internet smarks are not the majority. They are barely the minority when it comes to live crowds and PPV buys. The fans will eat up Hulk back in the WWE. It is just a matter of Hulk's ego being able to take the less pay, which I don't think he will, but I just want him back in the WWE to end his career. The thing about novelty is that it fades quickly. Hogan's initial ratings boost was just a novelty boost, but if the same guy is appearing week after week and nothing changes, then there's no more novelty value in it. He's about as novel to TNA now as the Harlem Shake is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2013 18:38:26 GMT -5
I am still holding on to the hope that he is gone.
TNA simply can not continue to exist with Hulk Hogan on the payrole.
His salary is too large for their ever shrinking budget to handle and is a waste of funds that could be used to market TNA or hire some wrestlers to fill out their roster.
His ego is just pathetic. He should be helping develop the next generation of wrestlers and be looking for the next Hogan or Austin. Instead he is doing everything in his power to hold everyone already there down and thus keep the spotlight on himself. Just like he did in WCW, if a great young talent shows up, he will make sure they don't get in the door or a buryed under a load of bad booking.
His drawing power just isn't there anymore. He can't wrestle at all and even if he could, how is having a 1 star match going to help TNA? If it got to teh point that he was champion, that clearly tells us that the TNA roster are nothing as they cant match it with an old man. As for his merchandise sales. If they were really so high then WWE would have kept him. Look at WCW in 1999, they had hulk merch and still lost millions.
He is poison and has been slowly killing TNA. For 3 years everything has declined in TNA, everything. Nothing is better, and if he returns it will be the end of TNA.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 16, 2013 21:45:29 GMT -5
See I don't blame him for trying to get as much $ and have as much power as possible; he's under no obligation to look out for anyone but himself and came up in an era when looking out for #1 was even more of a priority. It's a job, there's no reason to expect altruism on his or anyone else's part.
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 16, 2013 23:58:55 GMT -5
www.pwmania.com/hulk-hogan-removed-from-tna-bound-for-glory-advertising#.Ul9thFCsj0sTNA Wrestling is no longer advertising Hulk Hogan on their official website to appear at this Sunday’s TNA Bound For Glory pay-per-view. As PWMania.com have been reporting, Hogan’s contract has expired with TNA, but the company was still advertising him to appear at the pay-per-view. PWInsider.com confirmed today that no deal has been signed between TNA and Hulk Hogan, so he remains a free agent. Hogan did reveal that he has had discussions with Triple H and Vince McMahon about possibly returning to WWE, but he received an offer lower than what he is requesting from TNA Wrestling. Hogan is believed to be meeting with TNA Wrestling President Dixie Carter this week and is said to be also looking at re-entering negotiations with WWE prior to the weekend to evaluate his options from both companies. We will have to wait and see if Hogan is apart of TNA’s biggest pay-per-view this Sunday, or if he will remain a free agent, and possibly return to WWE in some capacity.
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Post by DSR on Oct 17, 2013 0:42:05 GMT -5
Hulk's neck. Hulk's back. Hulk's p**** and Hulk's crack.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 17, 2013 7:11:27 GMT -5
Hulk's neck. Hulk's back. Hulk's p**** and Hulk's crack. Now I have a disturbing image of the Hulkster singing this in my head.
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Post by evilone on Oct 17, 2013 10:01:55 GMT -5
www.pwmania.com/hulk-hogan-removed-from-tna-bound-for-glory-advertising#.Ul9thFCsj0sTNA Wrestling is no longer advertising Hulk Hogan on their official website to appear at this Sunday’s TNA Bound For Glory pay-per-view. As PWMania.com have been reporting, Hogan’s contract has expired with TNA, but the company was still advertising him to appear at the pay-per-view. PWInsider.com confirmed today that no deal has been signed between TNA and Hulk Hogan, so he remains a free agent. Hogan did reveal that he has had discussions with Triple H and Vince McMahon about possibly returning to WWE, but he received an offer lower than what he is requesting from TNA Wrestling. Hogan is believed to be meeting with TNA Wrestling President Dixie Carter this week and is said to be also looking at re-entering negotiations with WWE prior to the weekend to evaluate his options from both companies. We will have to wait and see if Hogan is apart of TNA’s biggest pay-per-view this Sunday, or if he will remain a free agent, and possibly return to WWE in some capacity. He is just using WWE as leverage to get TNA to pay him the money he wants. I don't see what is there to discuss, they give you an offer and you either take it or leave it. He really has no choice but to get employed by somebody. If he goes for cheap to WWE he gets his legacy back, whatever that means, but also his commanding value takes a legit hit. If he takes TNA offer he gets bit more money, creative control clause and doesn't have to do a thing but enjoy respect from people that never dealt with him. But I would not be surprised if his ego wants to be in WWE and enjoy benefits of TNA. First of all when somebody you counted on so much and paid for so much starts publicly acknowledging that he is having a discussion with your competitor its a sign to cut him off for good because that is not a loyal colleague or friend, unless you didn't honor your part of the deal.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 17, 2013 10:29:28 GMT -5
I just want him to go back to 'E so we can get a documentary of his life and career, without the Hulk's exaggerations. You just gave me a great idea... The WWE needs to build a 2 DVD set on the Career of Hulkamania. The first disk is more or less the straight truth with some commentary that tries it's best to be straight forward. It will sing his praises and cry foul when it's deserved. The second disk is Hogan making up whatever batshit stories he wants to about anything. The guys that chime in on the commentary do it in complete kayfabe style. All the WWE would have to do is sit back and watch the money roll in. I would honestly buy that... Both if they split them into separate purchases
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 17:12:14 GMT -5
I honestly want to know why TNA thinks Hogan has anything to offer. The man is 60 years old, has done everything one can do in the business, and is in a company that isn't going to attract the casual crowd. Whatever...if they want to continue to dig their grave, go for it. The one thing I see that he probably helps with is drawing fans on the road for Impact. But they're still losing money on TV tapings, and his paycheck probably more than offsets any gate money he brings in. Kurt Angle, Sting, and Jeff Hardy exist too, so they should be the veterans relied on to help draw on the road.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 17, 2013 17:31:22 GMT -5
I just want him to go back to 'E so we can get a documentary of his life and career, without the Hulk's exaggerations. You just gave me a great idea... The WWE needs to build a 2 DVD set on the Career of Hulkamania. The first disk is more or less the straight truth with some commentary that tries it's best to be straight forward. It will sing his praises and cry foul when it's deserved. The second disk is Hogan making up whatever batshit stories he wants to about anything. The guys that chime in on the commentary do it in complete kayfabe style. All the WWE would have to do is sit back and watch the money roll in. I would be all over official DVD's of Hulk Hogan's revisionist history, not just wrestling history, world history. I'd love to hear how Hulk Hogan solved every world crisis that has arisen in his lifetime, and how he would have solved other conflicts like World War 2.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 17, 2013 17:37:22 GMT -5
You just gave me a great idea... The WWE needs to build a 2 DVD set on the Career of Hulkamania. The first disk is more or less the straight truth with some commentary that tries it's best to be straight forward. It will sing his praises and cry foul when it's deserved. The second disk is Hogan making up whatever batshit stories he wants to about anything. The guys that chime in on the commentary do it in complete kayfabe style. All the WWE would have to do is sit back and watch the money roll in. I would be all over official DVD's of Hulk Hogan's revisionist history, not just wrestling history, world history. I'd love to hear how Hulk Hogan solved every world crisis that has arisen in his lifetime, and how he would have solved other conflicts like World War 2. Also they should animate all of Hulk's stories
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Oct 17, 2013 18:42:31 GMT -5
Hulk's neck. Hulk's back. Hulk's p**** and Hulk's crack, jack. Fixed for Hogan-isms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 19:27:35 GMT -5
You just gave me a great idea... The WWE needs to build a 2 DVD set on the Career of Hulkamania. The first disk is more or less the straight truth with some commentary that tries it's best to be straight forward. It will sing his praises and cry foul when it's deserved. The second disk is Hogan making up whatever batshit stories he wants to about anything. The guys that chime in on the commentary do it in complete kayfabe style. All the WWE would have to do is sit back and watch the money roll in. I would be all over official DVD's of Hulk Hogan's revisionist history, not just wrestling history, world history. I'd love to hear how Hulk Hogan solved every world crisis that has arisen in his lifetime, and how he would have solved other conflicts like World War 2. All those hulkamanics wanted Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down THE WALL brother, dude, so I used my buddy David Hasselhoff, brother, and we said our prays, ate our vitamins and gave the belief to all of Hulkamanics in Berlin, jack. The power of hulkamania ripped out the foundations of THE WALL from the earth, all 800 pounds of it dude, and Soviet Union died 3 days later from the impact, brother.
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Post by Juice on Oct 18, 2013 6:31:58 GMT -5
Here's what makes little sense to me. If this is true and Hogan did get a lower offer from WWE than expected, than why would he make that shit public? If he was going to use WWE as a bargaining tool for a higher pya from TNA, then it does not make sense to announce to the world that it was a low offer.
Because, it would make sense to me that TNA then makes a lower offer as well. Because if WWE is only willing to pay x amount then TNA knows what they can offer to keep him around too.
Personally I don't think Hogan ever left. I think he resigned a while ago. After all Bischoff is still producing. This whole thing was a work and it sucks cause a little of me wanted Hogan back in WWE for various roles. I quit watching TNA for the most part after they showed up and stunk the place up. But I don't think TnA would be that much different today if Hogan never joined.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 18, 2013 10:11:46 GMT -5
Also they should animate all of Hulk's stories A feature length animation of Hulk Hogan versus World War 2 featuring him bodyslamming the fuhrers Zeppelin in front of 100,000 people at München quadratisch garten would win all the Oscars!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 18, 2013 10:32:46 GMT -5
Also they should animate all of Hulk's stories A feature length animation of Hulk Hogan versus World War 2 featuring him bodyslamming the fuhrers Zeppelin in front of 100,000 people at München quadratisch garten would win all the Oscars! Personally, I want to see his version of the civil war. If it's anywhere near as accurate as his recollection of the Montreal screw job it's going to have started because Abraham Lincoln stole Jefferson Davis' pen.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Oct 18, 2013 13:14:16 GMT -5
Apparently China, IL money is better than I suspected
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 18, 2013 13:22:31 GMT -5
Apparently China, IL money is better than I suspected Now if Hulk can back but acted like the Dean, pay him what he wants.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 3:53:52 GMT -5
This thread's kept making me want to do this. Ahem.
Dude dude dude, jack jack jack Dude dude dude, jack jack jack
You’re watching AJ On your couch, alone On a summer night They’re deep in debt But they’re deeper in denial They think they’re doing alright
The crowd makes no noise They don’t know who’s face This can’t be real This is happening, babe On your TV screen
Oh, but Hulk’s back He’s the man with the bad back And creative control Hulk’s back The man with the bad back And he’s put TNA in a hole
You’re watch wrestling girls Only in TNA And you see someone old It chills your bones But you’ll still see and wait That’s a bad mistake
But the glass is half full And they have a chance Vince is not alone But he’ll soon be alone Because this was their last chance Survival is a can’t
Yeah, cause Hulk’s back He’s the man with a bad back And creative control Hulk’s back The man with the bad back And he’s put TNA in a hole
Hulkamania’s runnin’ Get away if you can Just change the channel Change as fast as you can He’s an expensive, expensive man
And he’s back tonight And you’re watching him With an empty house Yeah, just turn down the lights
Yeah, cause Hulk’s back He’s the man with a bad back And creative control Hulk’s back The man with the bad back And he’s put TNA in a hole
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 19, 2013 5:28:48 GMT -5
A feature length animation of Hulk Hogan versus World War 2 featuring him bodyslamming the fuhrers Zeppelin in front of 100,000 people at München quadratisch garten would win all the Oscars! Personally, I want to see his version of the civil war. If it's anywhere near as accurate as his recollection of the Montreal screw job it's going to have started because Abraham Lincoln stole Jefferson Davis' pen. And he'll probably leave out all the damn vampires!
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