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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 2:47:36 GMT -5
it's actually two new Heyman guys debuting. Backry and Axl Curtis And those are just distractions for Leslie Narbrock.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 15, 2013 3:28:22 GMT -5
CM Punk should have picked a "CM Punk vs. Ryback and Paul Heyman handicap match where Ryback's arms and legs are tied together and Paul Heyman isn't allowed to move" match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 3:35:16 GMT -5
CM Punk should have picked a "CM Punk vs. Ryback and Paul Heyman handicap match where Ryback's arms and legs are tied together and Paul Heyman isn't allowed to move" match. Alternatively, Axel, Ryback, and Heyman against everyone on the roster who isn't booked for the PPV, including those on NXT.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 15, 2013 3:42:47 GMT -5
CM Punk should have picked a "CM Punk vs. Ryback and Paul Heyman handicap match where Ryback's arms and legs are tied together and Paul Heyman isn't allowed to move" match. Alternatively, Axel, Ryback, and Heyman against everyone on the roster who isn't booked for the PPV, including those on NXT. Naked.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Oct 15, 2013 5:33:07 GMT -5
There is a RAW in Orlando the night after HIAC and local ad last night said it would be Punk vs Axel/Heyman in handicap match. Take that for what its worth
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Oct 15, 2013 6:11:30 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one who's still enjoying this. Yeah it's pretty obvious that something's gonna happen at HIAC to stretch this feud out further and go for Brock/Punk II at Survivor Series setting up the decider for 'Mania (or at least that's what it seems they're going for). But I don't see this as Punk being stupid I just think he wants to beat the crap out of Ryback and Heyman. Punk, in his mind at least, is the best in the world so why shouldn't he be able to beat up a guy who's never even won a World Title and a non-wrestler at the same time. He learned his lesson at NoC that other people can still interfere on Heyman's behalf hence the HIAC to (in theory) keep it 2-on-1 as Punk wants. It's wrestling the face's are always a little bit stupid, slightly egotistical and very single minded. That's how it's always been.
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Post by Abdullah on Oct 15, 2013 7:31:31 GMT -5
Punk has been fast-forward material for me since Night of Champions. People talk about the Corporation angle stalling, and it has somewhat, but Punk's angle has actually regressed and had its more interesting themes of betrayal removed in favor of gay jokes.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Oct 15, 2013 7:52:12 GMT -5
On one hand, this is a guy who's made it something of a routine to kick RyBack and Axel's asses at the same time. This is also the guy who fought Heyman and Axel in a handicap match at Night of Champions and nearly won, before RyBack interfered. On the other hand, if this is all a means to an end to get his hands on Heyman, why not just have a one-on-one, incapacitate RyBack, take care of Axel somewhere before or after the match, and then go after Heyman? Setting himself up for shenanigans is so not wise.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 15, 2013 8:02:35 GMT -5
This is why the wrestlers shouldn't pick their matches. They're too angry with rage to think straight and it leaves them wide open to criticism when they pick one of the more regular match types, instead of some complex as hell thing with craploads of stipulations that basically account to "I win".
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Post by dreamer75 on Oct 15, 2013 8:13:12 GMT -5
On one hand, this is a guy who's made it something of a routine to kick RyBack and Axel's asses at the same time. This is also the guy who fought Heyman and Axel in a handicap match at Night of Champions and nearly won, before RyBack interfered. On the other hand, if this is all a means to an end to get his hands on Heyman, why not just have a one-on-one, incapacitate RyBack, take care of Axel somewhere before or after the match, and then go after Heyman? Setting himself up for shenanigans is so not wise. My theory is that Punk is desperately trying to summon the Brockness Monster
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 8:39:14 GMT -5
CM Punk is just an emotional guy and he lets his emotions cloud his judgment.
That and he could care less about his own well being most of the time as long as he can get his hands on Heyman and oh my god please end this feud that should have ended at Summerslam NOW.
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Post by sunnytaker on Oct 15, 2013 10:10:18 GMT -5
i don't know why Punk would want to even add Ryback to the match considering he's also up against the guy who beat him with both hands tied behind his back.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 15, 2013 10:16:53 GMT -5
Not to mention, Punk couldn't even beat Ryback in LAST year's Hell in a Cell. Adding Heyman to the match doesn't put the odds in his favor, it makes them WORSE. Truth Seriously what is this? Ryback/Punk HIAC 2? Why does the match need hiac? Because the last time he had a chance to fight Paul Heyman someone interfered, the cell is locked and a means to keep everyone else out. Pretty straightforward booking there.
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Post by HBL on Oct 15, 2013 17:13:03 GMT -5
Eh,I don't mind it as long as they end this damn thing already.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 15, 2013 17:40:44 GMT -5
Punk's supposed to be the best in the world. They made him a face, which is what everyone apparently wanted ... and he still can't make things interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 17:59:37 GMT -5
Punk's supposed to be the best in the world. They made him a face, which is what everyone apparently wanted ... and he still can't make things interesting. Eh, at least face Punk is just boring. The idea of having to endure Punk as a heel again made me stop watching for almost a year. I just find him completely unwatchable as a heel unless he's firmly in the midcard being a smartass.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Oct 15, 2013 18:29:16 GMT -5
There was a little part of me that hoped the handicap match would be Heyman and Ryback vs The Second City Saints with Cabana and Steel neutralizing Ryback so CM Punk can get his hands on Heyman (but then it turns out Cabana and Steel are the new "Paul Heyman Guys"! Oh no!) Punk's supposed to be the best in the world. They made him a face, which is what everyone apparently wanted ... and he still can't make things interesting. Eh, at least face Punk is just boring. The idea of having to endure Punk as a heel again made me stop watching for almost a year. I just find him completely unwatchable as a heel unless he's firmly in the midcard being a smartass. I liked totally over the top evil Punk. I seem to be in the minority on that.
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Post by Chip on Oct 15, 2013 18:35:51 GMT -5
Punk has been fast-forward material for me since Night of Champions. People talk about the Corporation angle stalling, and it has somewhat, but Punk's angle has actually regressed and had its more interesting themes of betrayal removed in favor of gay jokes. If you play this entire feud backwards and do a little creative editing so it makes sense it'd be an amazing feud. It's really a shame they had to blow their load early with Lesnar/Punk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 18:54:45 GMT -5
Punk has been fast-forward material for me since Night of Champions. People talk about the Corporation angle stalling, and it has somewhat, but Punk's angle has actually regressed and had its more interesting themes of betrayal removed in favor of gay jokes. If you play this entire feud backwards and do a little creative editing so it makes sense it'd be an amazing feud. It's really a shame they had to blow their load early with Lesnar/Punk. I remember being a little mocked at points for using the phrase Last Boss First on the build-up to Summerslam (which I enjoyed) but it's so completely true. The issues now are: a) Punk has attacked Heyman multiple times already, and they aren't playing up the "Heyman keeps sneaking out!" aspect or the "he pinned Punk!" aspects enough to make it anything more than that. b) Punk has beaten Axel & Ryback decisively. But the last win on PPV was a flawed weak win. Punk believes he's the best in the world...but he's in Jericho land, he's only beaten lower midcarders with no real importance in them. c) The fact Heyman & Punk run the same segment each and every week, often with Punk stumbling over what the point is (he can sound impassioned, but he's Youtube MMA wanker as a character now) it's...pointless. I know this is a problem with needing Punk on the show for a pop but eh, in entirely storyline terms it's bafflingly stupid. Like Thomas Harris - Red Dragon has a fair few chapters with pointless moments of repeated ideas, CM Punk vs Paul Heyman just doesn't have the form to flow. d) Brock Lesnar smashed CM Punk to pieces in the build & during the Summerslam match. CM Punk hasn't had a major win all year (Jericho doesn't count, winning over him does nothing for anyone as he's lost to everyone on the damned roster bar Kofi Kingston), and...well, they don't want him in the main story, but as it is Punk just seems...poor in in-ring kayfabe terms & in story terms. Both Punk's stock & Heyman's stock have fallen so much since Summerslam and it's just a joke at this point, they do need to find a story for Punk that isn't "burn time until Brock comes back to trade wins". I mean, Punk is seemingly in a spot similar to Dean Ambrose in my eyes, beats up midcarders all the time decisively, but he IS distinctly midcard due to the time spent in it. Difference is Punk's meant to be up there with Cena.
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Post by mattyy on Oct 16, 2013 1:58:07 GMT -5
are you calling me an idiot, fatso? you paid your ticket, and you can say what you please. But I'll be DAMNDED IF I'M GOING TO LET YOU SIT THERE AND CRITICIZE ME. I'm CM Punk! I'm the I'M THE BEST IN THE WORRRRRRLD! I didn't come out here to talk, I came out here to FIGHT!! So if you're gonna sit there and call me an IDIOT, how's about you step in here with THE BEST. Come on, fatso. Show the world that you have the bal--[silenced audio]. Bring it on! Because I came out here to FIGHT! BEST IN THE WORRRRRLD!!![/everycmpunkpromolately]
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