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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 16, 2013 14:38:50 GMT -5
Not to mention, Punk couldn't even beat Ryback in LAST year's Hell in a Cell. Adding Heyman to the match doesn't put the odds in his favor, it makes them WORSE. Has it really been that long since they killed one of their hottest new babyfaces? My goodness. How time flies when you get screwed over as a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2013 18:26:23 GMT -5
There was a little part of me that hoped the handicap match would be Heyman and Ryback vs The Second City Saints with Cabana and Steel neutralizing Ryback so CM Punk can get his hands on Heyman (but then it turns out Cabana and Steel are the new "Paul Heyman Guys"! Oh no!) Eh, at least face Punk is just boring. The idea of having to endure Punk as a heel again made me stop watching for almost a year. I just find him completely unwatchable as a heel unless he's firmly in the midcard being a smartass. I liked totally over the top evil Punk. I seem to be in the minority on that. When I was driving to work this morning for some reason I started thinking about Punk beating the crap out of Lawler in the steel cage, and parading around the ring yelling "I'M THE KING OF MEMPHIS TENNESSEE!" Andy Kaufman style. I'm getting goosebumps right now thinking about it, what a great heel moment. At the time I was irritated because they were squashing such an obviously beloved wrestler into heel-mode to combat John Cena and lose to The Rock, but he did some really good work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2013 19:00:28 GMT -5
Not to mention, Punk couldn't even beat Ryback in LAST year's Hell in a Cell. Adding Heyman to the match doesn't put the odds in his favor, it makes them WORSE. Has it really been that long since they killed one of their hottest new babyfaces? My goodness. How time flies when you get screwed over as a fan. I am all for people not letting go of the whole Ryback thing, because I haven't either. Chants so loud they shake the hard camera...yeah, let's not capitalize on that. f***.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 16, 2013 20:08:03 GMT -5
If you play this entire feud backwards and do a little creative editing so it makes sense it'd be an amazing feud. It's really a shame they had to blow their load early with Lesnar/Punk. I remember being a little mocked at points for using the phrase Last Boss First on the build-up to Summerslam (which I enjoyed) but it's so completely true. The issues now are: a) Punk has attacked Heyman multiple times already, and they aren't playing up the "Heyman keeps sneaking out!" aspect or the "he pinned Punk!" aspects enough to make it anything more than that. b) Punk has beaten Axel & Ryback decisively. But the last win on PPV was a flawed weak win. Punk believes he's the best in the world...but he's in Jericho land, he's only beaten lower midcarders with no real importance in them. c) The fact Heyman & Punk run the same segment each and every week, often with Punk stumbling over what the point is (he can sound impassioned, but he's Youtube MMA wanker as a character now) it's...pointless. I know this is a problem with needing Punk on the show for a pop but eh, in entirely storyline terms it's bafflingly stupid. Like Thomas Harris - Red Dragon has a fair few chapters with pointless moments of repeated ideas, CM Punk vs Paul Heyman just doesn't have the form to flow. Punk has never beaten Ryback decisively. He had Brad Maddox get him a cheap win last year, and he had Shield attack Ryback
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2013 20:14:49 GMT -5
So CM stands for Complete Moron... works for me.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 16, 2013 20:24:24 GMT -5
Well he is a Cubs fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2013 21:34:32 GMT -5
I remember being a little mocked at points for using the phrase Last Boss First on the build-up to Summerslam (which I enjoyed) but it's so completely true. The issues now are: a) Punk has attacked Heyman multiple times already, and they aren't playing up the "Heyman keeps sneaking out!" aspect or the "he pinned Punk!" aspects enough to make it anything more than that. b) Punk has beaten Axel & Ryback decisively. But the last win on PPV was a flawed weak win. Punk believes he's the best in the world...but he's in Jericho land, he's only beaten lower midcarders with no real importance in them. c) The fact Heyman & Punk run the same segment each and every week, often with Punk stumbling over what the point is (he can sound impassioned, but he's Youtube MMA wanker as a character now) it's...pointless. I know this is a problem with needing Punk on the show for a pop but eh, in entirely storyline terms it's bafflingly stupid. Like Thomas Harris - Red Dragon has a fair few chapters with pointless moments of repeated ideas, CM Punk vs Paul Heyman just doesn't have the form to flow. Punk has never beaten Ryback decisively. He had Brad Maddox get him a cheap win last year, and he had Shield attack Ryback In pinfall terms, I meant that Punk's generally beaten Ryback up for 3/4 of any brawls the past month, and as such has shown he can ignore Ryback as a threat (including the whole "sure, handicap match, I'll get to you Heyman whether your guy's there or not"). There's also the part of it where a few months ago Ryback gave up to Miz on Raw when his leg was trapped and generally...hasn't won too much. I think putting a Ryback who needs to be rebuilt to show he's a monster against CM Punk right now is a bit off I suppose.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 16, 2013 21:36:44 GMT -5
Once this feud lost Lesnar, I lost interest in it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2013 21:42:40 GMT -5
Once this feud lost Lesnar, I lost interest in it. Punk's working against McGillicutty and neutered Ryback. The man isn't a miracle worker. Not anymore, anyway.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 16, 2013 23:07:54 GMT -5
Iliked totally over the top evil Punk. I seem to be in the minority on that. I liked evil Punk too. I looked forward to heel Punk every week. And I absolutely love his random acts of being a douche to fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 7:49:46 GMT -5
Why is this fued even still going?
No one is getting over in fact I'd say it's actually damaging Punk (for me personally it's killed alot of my interest in him)
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Oct 17, 2013 15:50:07 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't mind this feud for Heyman's mic work? It is a little silly its existing seemingly in another continuity with the HHH storyline but its not that terrible.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 17, 2013 15:52:46 GMT -5
Iliked totally over the top evil Punk. I seem to be in the minority on that. I liked evil Punk too. I looked forward to heel Punk every week. And I absolutely love his random acts of being a douche to fans. When it got to the point where the fans kept cheering no matter what over-the-top display of cheap heat he was taking part in, I found it funny.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 17, 2013 15:59:52 GMT -5
It would have been better if HHH chose Punk to be the face of the company. Douchey corporate Punk would have been something different, and a far better option than boring old Randy Orton.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Oct 17, 2013 16:09:54 GMT -5
Honestly can this stupid Punk needs to get his revenge on revenge on Heyman over with already as this storyline blows.
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