Chiral
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Post by Chiral on Oct 15, 2013 13:09:03 GMT -5
It'd be a pretty awesome heel gimmick if they did vignettes of the quoted parts of the OP word for word, for some guy that came back from a sprained ankle after a few weeks. He runs out and begs for awards for how awesome and good he is.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 15, 2013 13:09:42 GMT -5
There's a difference between the injuries Cena has had and serious concussions. It doesn't matter what the injury is. Even a cold could potentially kill you if you don't treat it right. I guess but when you bring up Chris Benoit of all people, you know what'll be thought of.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Oct 15, 2013 18:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by Starshine on Oct 15, 2013 18:18:48 GMT -5
Too bad Del Rio doesn't come out in the car anymore. We could have had an iconic image of Cena lifting the car with Del Rio still in it.
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Post by Cronant on Oct 15, 2013 18:23:59 GMT -5
Most people comment on the "Its going to catch up to him" without knowing how severe these injuries may or may not be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 18:46:44 GMT -5
Ya know it's funny.
On this main page, there are two threads. "John Cena is a Superhero" and "CM Punk is an idiot."
In each of these, the OP makes a negative point about the star in question. In one of these, post after post of white-knighting occurs, bashing the OP for daring to speak ill of said star/sacred cow. And guess what? It's not the CM Punk thread.
So, can we put to bed the "if it was CM Punk" meme once and for all now? Because John Cena fans come to the rescue way, way harder. In this case, perception is not reality.
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Post by Chip on Oct 15, 2013 18:48:50 GMT -5
Most people comment on the "Its going to catch up to him" without knowing how severe these injuries may or may not be. Regardless of how severe they are, I think it's safe to say that Cena's retirement from wrestling is probably not going to be voluntary, sadly.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 15, 2013 20:17:06 GMT -5
Ya know it's funny. On this main page, there are two threads. "John Cena is a Superhero" and "CM Punk is an idiot." In each of these, the OP makes a negative point about the star in question. In one of these, post after post of white-knighting occurs, bashing the OP for daring to speak ill of said star/sacred cow. And guess what? It's not the CM Punk thread. So, can we put to bed the "if it was CM Punk" meme once and for all now? Because John Cena fans come to the rescue way, way harder. In this case, perception is not reality. Everything but the bold part is correct. I love Cena myself, but yeah there's no shortage of defense on his behalf. Not on this wrestling board at least.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 20:23:32 GMT -5
Ya know it's funny. On this main page, there are two threads. "John Cena is a Superhero" and "CM Punk is an idiot." In each of these, the OP makes a negative point about the star in question. In one of these, post after post of white-knighting occurs, bashing the OP for daring to speak ill of said star/sacred cow. And guess what? It's not the CM Punk thread. So, can we put to bed the "if it was CM Punk" meme once and for all now? Because John Cena fans come to the rescue way, way harder. In this case, perception is not reality. Everything but the bold part is correct. I love Cena myself, but yeah there's no shortage of defense on his behalf. Not on this wrestling board at least. In this case, the perception on the board seems to be that CM Punk is this beloved can't be criticized figure, while John Cena is hated and bashed mercilessly. And in reality, Punk gets hated a lot more than Cena around here these days, to the point where it's pretty surprising. One could've easily went with "a babyface is confident in his abilities and stacks the odds against himself to get what he wants? WELL I'LL BE!" or some other sarcastic defense of Punk, but it didn't happen. Admittedly, this may be an outdated thought. Seeing those two pretty similar threads near each other and the difference in the reactions contained in each triggered it in my brain though.
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wisdomwizard
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 15, 2013 20:28:37 GMT -5
Everything but the bold part is correct. I love Cena myself, but yeah there's no shortage of defense on his behalf. Not on this wrestling board at least. In this case, the perception on the board seems to be that CM Punk is this beloved can't be criticized figure, while John Cena is hated and bashed mercilessly. And in reality, Punk gets hated a lot more than Cena around here these days, to the point where it's pretty surprising. One could've easily went with "a babyface is confident in his abilities and stacks the odds against himself to get what he wants? WELL I'LL BE!" or some other sarcastic defense of Punk, but it didn't happen. Admittedly, this may be an outdated thought. Seeing those two pretty similar threads near each other and the difference in the reactions contained in each triggered it in my brain though. I just mean that you're perception is reality. Which means that sometimes perception is reality. It just made what you said sound a little off, I know what you mean otherwise.
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Post by unc40 on Oct 15, 2013 20:42:51 GMT -5
I have to laugh when I hear people complaining about WWE pushing John Cena to appear to be super human and overcoming incredible odds to win matches. People seem to forget Austin running to the ring and taking out the entire WCW during the invasion storyline, The Undertaker coming back from the dead multiple times, and Hulk Hogan winning 99.9% of his matches by getting beat to a pulp only to hulk out and win.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 15, 2013 21:11:30 GMT -5
I'm sure Chris Benoit was also considered heroic when he would go out and wrestle, despite having severe injuries. none of Cena's injuries have been to the head
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Post by BigWill on Oct 15, 2013 22:26:28 GMT -5
I'm sure Chris Benoit was also considered heroic when he would go out and wrestle, despite having severe injuries. none of Cena's injuries have been to the head That has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 22:34:59 GMT -5
It'd be a pretty awesome heel gimmick if they did vignettes of the quoted parts of the OP word for word, for some guy that came back from a sprained ankle after a few weeks. He runs out and begs for awards for how awesome and good he is. This has Bo Dallas written all over it.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Oct 15, 2013 22:48:02 GMT -5
I have to laugh when I hear people complaining about WWE pushing John Cena to appear to be super human and overcoming incredible odds to win matches. People seem to forget Austin running to the ring and taking out the entire WCW during the invasion storyline, The Undertaker coming back from the dead multiple times, and Hulk Hogan winning 99.9% of his matches by getting beat to a pulp only to hulk out and win. They weren't hated by half the audience. To that half, while likely glad Cena's healthy, it still doesn't change that his character is impossibly stale and him coming back so soon is detrimental to their enjoyment of the product currently presented.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 23:04:31 GMT -5
Most people comment on the "Its going to catch up to him" without knowing how severe these injuries may or may not be. Regardless of how severe they are, I think it's safe to say that Cena's retirement from wrestling is probably not going to be voluntary, sadly. In one of his return hype videos they had that quote from him about "if I didn't have this I'd be going crazy I don't know what I'd be doing", and one of the newz reports said he was going "stir-crazy" at home and was itching to get back. That doesn't bode well for him. It makes me think of my dad, his knees/back/shoulders are shot from doing heavy construction for 35+ years, but the guy can't get enough and he's in a bad mood if he's not at work or doing some kind of project, he just can't sit still (I have the opposite problem, haha). It's admirable and I look up to him, but it pains me to think of how it's going to be when something gives out for good.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 15, 2013 23:12:36 GMT -5
Most people comment on the "Its going to catch up to him" without knowing how severe these injuries may or may not be. Well, it's common sense. When you work as hard as Cena as often as he does, something's gotta give. You may not feel it today, you may not feel it tomorrow but I promise, you WILL feel it at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 23:13:23 GMT -5
none of Cena's injuries have been to the head That has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. I also find it unlikely that, after ten years of wrestling at this level, in often violent matches, that Cena hasn't had a concussion at some point.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Oct 15, 2013 23:13:58 GMT -5
Most people comment on the "Its going to catch up to him" without knowing how severe these injuries may or may not be. I don't think rushing back from any injury, severe or not, is ok. I don't care how much you can bench press, eventually age and wear and tear and injuries never fully healing catch up to you eventually.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 15, 2013 23:38:35 GMT -5
Ya know it's funny. On this main page, there are two threads. "John Cena is a Superhero" and "CM Punk is an idiot." In each of these, the OP makes a negative point about the star in question. In one of these, post after post of white-knighting occurs, bashing the OP for daring to speak ill of said star/sacred cow. And guess what? It's not the CM Punk thread. So, can we put to bed the "if it was CM Punk" meme once and for all now? Because John Cena fans come to the rescue way, way harder. In this case, perception is not reality. I don't about anyone else but I'm here to defend my family's honor. For decades, we have resided within the Cenation.
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