PWI Female 50 2013

[Steveweiser]

The full list isn't out, but it was revealed tonight at the SHIMMER tapings that Cheerleader Melissa topped the list this year. 20 of the 50 entrants are SHIMMER competitors.

[thelonewolf527]

I don't get it

The PWI 500 has a lot of kayfabe premise behind it, yet WWE divas never seem to top the list.

Granted AJ didn't wrestle from July to December and even then was sporadic until Mania but still.

[JoDaNa1281]

Oct 19, 2013 19:47:11 GMT -5 thelonewolf527 said:

I don't get it

The PWI 500 has a lot of kayfabe premise behind it, yet WWE divas never seem to top the list.

Granted AJ didn't wrestle from July to December and even then was sporadic until Mania but still.

Actually, a WWE diva has topped it twice, consecutive years as a matter of fact, Mickie James in 2009 & Michelle McCool in 2010. Them, TNA & Shimmer have each had 2 women top it, along with those 2 for WWE, TNA had Awesome Kong in 2008(1st year they started doing this) & Gail Kim last year and along with Melissa this year, Madison Eagles did it in 2011.

[Hit Girl]

#1 - AJ LEE


YES!!!!

[Andrew is Good]

One issue with WWE divas is the competition is usually pretty lacking, despite the television exposure. I'd say Cheerleader Melissa is one of the top talents on the indies, male or female, up there with Cabana and Steen.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Oct 20, 2013 17:14:23 GMT -5 Andrew is Good said:

One issue with WWE divas is the competition is usually pretty lacking, despite the television exposure. I'd say Cheerleader Melissa is one of the top talents on the indies, male or female, up there with Cabana and Steen.

Agreed. I'd love for her to get a shot at the big time, but I have to concede if she was going to it would have happened by now.

[Richard]

50. Mistress Belmont
49. She Nay Nay
48. Thunderkitty
47. Bayley
46. Bambi Hall
45. Santana Garrett
44. Xandra Bale
43. Veda Scott
42. Amber O’Neal
41. Mia Yim
40. Leva Bates
39. Nevaeh
38. Emma
37. Cameron
36. Sassy Stephie
35. Alicia Fox
34. Taeler Hendrix
33. Jessica James
32. Nikki Bella
31. Allysin Kay
30. Christina Von Eerie
29. Portia Perez
28. Cherry Bomb
27. Tamina Snuka
26. Nicole Matthews
25. Athena
24. Naomi
23. Courtney Rush
22. Brie Bella
21. LuFisto
20. MsChif
19. Brooke Tessmacher
18. Layla
17. Taryn Terrell
16. Rain
15. Kellie Skater
14. Madison Eagles
13. Natalya
12. Paige
11. Velvet Sky
10. Mercedes Martinez
9. AJ Lee
8. Tara
7. Kacee Carlisle
6. Gail Kim
5. Kaitlyn
4. Jessicka Havok
3. Saraya Knight
2. Mickie James
1. Cheerleader Melissa

[saintpat]

Good for Veda Scott.

And AJ being so low makes no sense.

[Richard]

Oct 25, 2013 14:09:05 GMT -5 saintpat said:

And AJ being so low makes no sense.

AJ didn't even make the top 50 last year despite her huge push. They still ended up awarding her Woman of the Year though. They're just very inconsistent with how they rank these lists.

They've actually had to clarify why she's so low because so many people were asking them about it:

Last week, we asked on Facebook and Twitter who you thought would take the top spot. While Melissa got a couple of nods, the overwhelming favourite was WWE Divas Champion AJ Lee, who has held the title since June 2013 and turned back challenges month after month. While her work since the summer has been very admirable – and certainly fits in with PWI’s definition of success in wrestling – it is the rest of the year which let her down.

“While AJ Lee has looked strong over the past few months, she spent a large portion of the evaluation period in a relatively inactive role as a valet,” reveals Murphy. “When she did wrestle, she suffered several losses to Kaitlyn. While she has looked great over the past few months, AJ Lee did not have a spectacular in-ring year overall.”

[saintpat]

Oct 25, 2013 14:17:36 GMT -5 Richard said:

Oct 25, 2013 14:09:05 GMT -5 saintpat said:

And AJ being so low makes no sense.

AJ didn't even make the top 50 last year despite her huge push. They still ended up awarding her Woman of the Year though. They're just very inconsistent with how they rank these lists.

They've actually had to clarify why she's so low because so many people were asking them about it:

Last week, we asked on Facebook and Twitter who you thought would take the top spot. While Melissa got a couple of nods, the overwhelming favourite was WWE Divas Champion AJ Lee, who has held the title since June 2013 and turned back challenges month after month. While her work since the summer has been very admirable – and certainly fits in with PWI’s definition of success in wrestling – it is the rest of the year which let her down.

“While AJ Lee has looked strong over the past few months, she spent a large portion of the evaluation period in a relatively inactive role as a valet,” reveals Murphy. “When she did wrestle, she suffered several losses to Kaitlyn. While she has looked great over the past few months, AJ Lee did not have a spectacular in-ring year overall.”

Square that with Natalya's ranking vs. how she has been booked in the last year. (And I'm a big Natty fan.)

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

Velvet Sky above Paige because why?

[Bob Schlapowitz]

No Sarah Stock?

[Steveweiser]

Oct 25, 2013 20:11:26 GMT -5 Bob Schlapowitz said:

No Sarah Stock?

Most of her matches were in Mexico and Japan. They only rank those who had a lot of matches in North America... though I don't get why Eagles and Skater are ranked when they work as many NA matches as the Joshi do.

[El Cokehead del Knife Fight]

So velvet Sky is better than Paige? That's a laugh.

[JoDaNa1281]

Oct 26, 2013 4:20:44 GMT -5 El Cokehead del Knife Fight said:

So velvet Sky is better than Paige? That's a laugh.

It's not about talent or 'who's better', it's based on kayfabe accomplishments & Velvet was the KO Champ for a number of months, with victories over former list toppers Gail Kim & Mickie James, plus Paige's NXT Divas Title win probably came towards the end of the grading period.

[Deleted]

Out of that list of 50, there are 10 ladies on that list that I've legitimately never heard of. A great deal of which I've heard of, but would probably struggle to pick out of a lineup.


My indy women's wrestling game is lacking.

[________ has left the building]

Just like every list PWI does, I read and shook my head. Random selection of women with them being ranked by kayfabe and personal reasons. Natalya barely did anything of note last and this year but ranked in the top 15. I get they don't be accused of only caring about WWE and TNA women or only caring about the workratez but they need to look at more than 5 promotions & rank them with more logically rhyme and reason. The top 10 makes sense in kayfabe reasons. But everything else is dart on a board random.

[BigWill]

If this is based on kayfabe accomplishments, how is Kaitlyn above AJ? AJ's had a pretty dominant title reign, but when Kaitlyn was champion, she couldn't even manage to get on TV most of the time.

[Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal]

I don't think AJ is gonna be tattooing this on her neck anytime soon.

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

Oct 26, 2013 15:27:00 GMT -5 Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal said:

I don't think AJ is gonna be tattooing this on her neck anytime soon.