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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 25, 2013 7:49:48 GMT -5
So Kurt is doing an angle where he dies after performing a top rope move.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 25, 2013 8:01:38 GMT -5
TNA is going into uncomfortable territory with the Hurt Kurt Angle.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 25, 2013 8:13:48 GMT -5
Um.... okay.
This is not going into a good area. Right the ship TNA, right the ship. Do not go into this freaking area! In particular when the wrestler involved is someone with a history of injuries, and not slowing down, and his body is held together by gum. Don't do this, I beg you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2013 8:16:13 GMT -5
At least Roode is beating Angle. The storyline might be a little unnecessary with Angle's history but the right guy is going over.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 25, 2013 8:32:24 GMT -5
Going over by the other guy knocking himself out all the time, mind.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Oct 25, 2013 9:22:25 GMT -5
TNA is going into uncomfortable territory with the Hurt Kurt Angle. It's all apart of TNA's new direction. They will be giving Kurt a Super Dave Osbourne gimmick. They will in fact call him 'Hurt Angle.'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2013 9:26:14 GMT -5
Going over by the other guy knocking himself out all the time, mind. Angle beat Styles clean at Slammiversary when they were building Styles for BFG. The fact that Angle isn't dominating this feud is a pleasant surprise. I'll take it.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Oct 25, 2013 9:40:18 GMT -5
[Mickey Rourke runs in]
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Post by W?Y on Oct 25, 2013 9:56:12 GMT -5
Tell me they did SOMETHING for Halloween.
It's on the same day, for crying out loud!
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 25, 2013 10:12:37 GMT -5
Going over by the other guy knocking himself out all the time, mind. Angle beat Styles clean at Slammiversary when they were building Styles for BFG. The fact that Angle isn't dominating this feud is a pleasant surprise. I'll take it. Then just have Roode beat him clean without the banana peel finish. The narrative is Roode can only beat Kurt after Angle himself delivers the knockout blow and Kurt refuses to stop even when his body is telling him to. It's uncomfortable to cheer for the guy who is killing himself because his pride won't let him take time off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2013 10:20:14 GMT -5
Angle beat Styles clean at Slammiversary when they were building Styles for BFG. The fact that Angle isn't dominating this feud is a pleasant surprise. I'll take it. Then just have Roode beat him clean without the banana peel finish. The narrative is Roode can only beat Kurt after Angle himself delivers the knockout blow and Kurt refuses to stop even when his body is telling him to. It's uncomfortable to cheer for the guy who is killing himself because his pride won't let him take time off. I would have Roode win more convincingly as well, but Angle doesn't job clean (with a few exceptions). The BFG match was pretty even steven. No one has looked bad in this feud, maybe with the exception of Angle doing crazy shit to injure himself.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 26, 2013 6:02:47 GMT -5
Tell me they did SOMETHING for Halloween. It's on the same day, for crying out loud! Their gimmick is "Tape this show, no-one will watch live anyway..." ignoring the fact that the same million people tune in EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Thursday could well be Game 7 of the World Series, THE SAME ONE MILLION PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN.
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Post by comahan on Oct 26, 2013 6:58:27 GMT -5
I enjoy the way Roode is winning, because it almost continues the tradition from his World Title reign.
During that time, he won via massive amounts of cheating, countouts, DQs, flukes, and pure luck. He's recognized in kayfabe for being an excellent wrestler who can hang with anyone and is constantly put over as a big threat, then he escapes all his big matches with wins courtesy of complete BS. I know that the majority of people here prefer clean finishes and all that, but to me it establishes Roode even more as the heel that no one can stand because of how he's winning his matches.
If he beat Angle clean, literally nothing would change. He'd still be regarded as the same, the announcers and company would continue to talk about him as the big threat they already consider him, but there wouldn't be that underlying agitation from the fans because Roode keeps narrowly avoiding defeat by the skin of his teeth. Plus, this way allows them to do a story with Angle. Whether that story pans out into something good, who knows, but it wherever theyre going with it wouldnt be possible if Roode just straight up beat Angle.
So yea, long story short, I personally see much more upside for Roode winning in ways like this than I do in Roode going over Angle clean.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 26, 2013 7:07:41 GMT -5
I enjoy the way Roode is winning, because it almost continues the tradition from his World Title reign. During that time, he won via massive amounts of cheating, countouts, DQs, flukes, and pure luck. He's recognized in kayfabe for being an excellent wrestler who can hang with anyone and is constantly put over as a big threat, then he escapes all his big matches with wins courtesy of complete BS. I know that the majority of people here prefer clean finishes and all that, but to me it establishes Roode even more as the heel that no one can stand because of how he's winning his matches. If he beat Angle clean, literally nothing would change. He'd still be regarded as the same, the announcers and company would continue to talk about him as the big threat they already consider him, but there wouldn't be that underlying agitation from the fans because Roode keeps narrowly avoiding defeat by the skin of his teeth. Plus, this way allows them to do a story with Angle. Whether that story pans out into something good, who knows, but it wherever theyre going with it wouldnt be possible if Roode just straight up beat Angle. So yea, long story short, I personally see much more upside for Roode winning in ways like this than I do in Roode going over Angle clean. So you don't find something uncomfortable with the fact that both matches so far have ended through injury stoppage by Angle passing out? Passing Out is a symptom of a concussion so this is getting rather awkward.
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Post by comahan on Oct 26, 2013 7:27:30 GMT -5
I enjoy the way Roode is winning, because it almost continues the tradition from his World Title reign. During that time, he won via massive amounts of cheating, countouts, DQs, flukes, and pure luck. He's recognized in kayfabe for being an excellent wrestler who can hang with anyone and is constantly put over as a big threat, then he escapes all his big matches with wins courtesy of complete BS. I know that the majority of people here prefer clean finishes and all that, but to me it establishes Roode even more as the heel that no one can stand because of how he's winning his matches. If he beat Angle clean, literally nothing would change. He'd still be regarded as the same, the announcers and company would continue to talk about him as the big threat they already consider him, but there wouldn't be that underlying agitation from the fans because Roode keeps narrowly avoiding defeat by the skin of his teeth. Plus, this way allows them to do a story with Angle. Whether that story pans out into something good, who knows, but it wherever theyre going with it wouldnt be possible if Roode just straight up beat Angle. So yea, long story short, I personally see much more upside for Roode winning in ways like this than I do in Roode going over Angle clean. So you don't find something uncomfortable with the fact that both matches so far have ended through injury stoppage by Angle passing out? Passing Out is a symptom of a concussion so this is getting rather awkward. Well let me preface this comment by pointing out that they havent mentioned concussions once, and both match endings have happened courtesy of high impact moves, not Angle simply passing out mid match. If they had gone the Shawn/Owen route from the mid 90s, then sure, but this is just Angle getting the worse end of huge moves after exerting all of his energy in the matches up to that point. Not much different than how a big superplex spot will put both guys down for a standing 9 count a lot of times. You may very well be right, I dont want to totally dismiss you, but to me this doesnt scream "concussion storyline" at all. Now, if it IS, then I can see why it would bother some people. I'm not just scoffing at anyone who thinks differently than me, but no, Im not uncomfortable with it. I look at it in the same way that I do characters with cancer or something like that in movies/TV. Certainly a delicate subject due to what it can do to people who actually suffer from it (like wrestlers w/ concussions), but its a storyline, so Im not bothered by it. Just my personal feeling on it though.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 26, 2013 9:43:10 GMT -5
The way I feel about the "Kurt Angle is badly hurt" storyline is the same way I felt about the "Scott Hall is a drunk" storyline. You're playing with fire when the shit eventually hit the fan.
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Post by W?Y on Oct 26, 2013 10:01:16 GMT -5
Tell me they did SOMETHING for Halloween. It's on the same day, for crying out loud! Their gimmick is "Tape this show, no-one will watch live anyway..." ignoring the fact that the same million people tune in EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Thursday could well be Game 7 of the World Series, THE SAME ONE MILLION PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN. But they put a pumpkin on their graphic on Thursday and said it would be their Halloween show! *pullshair.jpg*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 17:41:28 GMT -5
That must have made Thursday's episode pure hell to be at live.
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Post by skulldouggory on Oct 28, 2013 5:17:05 GMT -5
At the end of this feud and when Angle retires, It will always be remembered that Roode didn't beat Angle, Angle beat Angle.
You can still put over a heel and have the heel still have heat. This is just bullshit. Between this and Hogan's exit, is there wonder why this company is limping to it's grave.
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Post by Injustice45 on Oct 29, 2013 22:51:34 GMT -5
Why would Sting be shocked at Magnus eliminating him? Magnus beat Sting clean at Bound For Glory.
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