In Kayfabe Triple H would squash Bryan

[Professor Chaos]

So why are they trying to act like this is Austin-McMahon and Trips is some scared old man? The whole thing comes off as ridiculous. Triple H beat Brock Lesnar at Mania and a few months later is scared of Bryan?

[Emmet Russell]

Bryan beat John Cena - clean. John Cena beat HHH numerous times. Bryan wins.

[Chip]

Oct 26, 2013 2:19:42 GMT -5 Emmet Russell said:

Bryan beat John Cena - clean. John Cena beat HHH numerous times. Bryan wins.

Cena also beat Brock Lesnar.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Oct 26, 2013 2:19:42 GMT -5 Emmet Russell said:

Bryan beat John Cena - clean. John Cena beat HHH numerous times. Bryan wins.

And beat Brock.

So Bryan > Cena > HHH > Brock?

[Lance Uppercut]

HHH lost to Brock Lesnar in their last match and recently can't beat Curtis Axel.

[Professor Chaos]

I don't have any stats but would be curious to see them, just feels to me like Bryan has lost clean more times in his 3 years in the E than Triple H has since 2000.

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Oct 26, 2013 2:29:26 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

I don't have any stats but would be curious to see them, just feels to me like Bryan has lost clean more times in his 3 years in the E than Triple H has since 2000.

HHH was a main eventer since late 1999. Bryan was an upper midcard JTTS who only broke into the upper card a little less than two years ago.

[rnrk supports BLM]

There is a perfectly rational scientific explanation for this. All pro wrestlers' strength is drawn from their heroism and/or connection to the fans, also known as their Hulkamania Power Level. Thus, wrestlers who turn heel immediately become weaker, more cowardly, and frequently need to cheat to win.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Triple H has won two televised matches in the last 2 years. He's a bigger jobber than Ryder.

[Professor Chaos]

Guess it's the appearance more than anything for me. Triple H looks a lot bigger and stronger than Bryan to me. I don't believe Bryan could take him in a legit fight. You can't take a guy like Triple H and try to make it seem like he's announcer Vince turned Evil Boss and all the wrestlers can intimidate him.

[The Baltimore Staircase]

Oct 26, 2013 4:03:42 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

Guess it's the appearance more than anything for me. Triple H looks a lot bigger and stronger than Bryan to me. I don't believe Bryan could take him in a legit fight. You can't take a guy like Triple H and try to make it seem like he's announcer Vince turned Evil Boss and all the wrestlers can intimidate him.

Yeah but "in kayfabe" that's already been addressed. It started months ago with McMahon mocking his size etc. They've been quick to get over how Bryan may be small but he can take on the world with his refusal to accept that he's the weak link, smaller dog in the fight etc. All is right in kayfabe kingdom.

[Hit Girl]

HHH as the authority figure just doesn't work, because he's not willing to show fear or get comeuppance.

Vince did, all the time. He allowed himself to take beatings and ritual humiliation. HHH on the other hand has to ALWAYS be presented as Billy Big Bollocks.

He has to always be the toughest kid in school, even if he's semi-retired, wearing a suit, and should be as rusty as the Titanic.

[AdamAFL was sooooo wrong]

Oct 26, 2013 9:07:31 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

HHH as the authority figure just doesn't work, because he's not willing to show fear or get comeuppance.

Vince did, all the time. He allowed himself to take beatings and ritual humiliation. HHH on the other hand has to ALWAYS be presented as Billy Big Bollocks.

He has to always be the toughest kid in school, even if he's semi-retired, wearing a suit, and should be as rusty as the Titanic.

I must've dreamt the episodes where Bryan/Big Show have humiliated Triple H & co. on a regular basis.

[CM Parish]

Oct 26, 2013 9:07:31 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

HHH as the authority figure just doesn't work, because he's not willing to show fear or get comeuppance.

Vince did, all the time. He allowed himself to take beatings and ritual humiliation. HHH on the other hand has to ALWAYS be presented as Billy Big Bollocks.

He has to always be the toughest kid in school, even if he's semi-retired, wearing a suit, and should be as rusty as the Titanic.

Why do people always conveniently forget he was terrified of Show and then got knocked the f*** out?

[Hit Girl]

That's a rare exception.

And has he really shown that much fear? HHH is so expressionless that it's hard to tell.

In his interview with Michael Cole, he basically brushed off the punch and got mad at Cole for even suggesting that it caused any serious damage.

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

Why would HHH show any fear? He is THE LORD OF ULTIMATE ASS KICKING GOD!

[AdamAFL was sooooo wrong]

Oct 26, 2013 9:14:51 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

That's a rare exception.

And has he really shown that much fear? HHH is so expressionless that it's hard to tell.

In his interview with Michael Cole, he basically brushed off the punch and got mad at Cole for even suggesting that it caused any serious damage.

That's because he's a delusional heel. There was no threat in that room (unless you want him to be scared of Michael f***ing Cole). He's just talking a big game. HHH has been himiliated plenty of times since Summerslam but lets just look at the obvious comeuppance segment:

He acts like a little girl hiding from Show behind The Shield but as soon as The Shield get the upper hand he's getting in Show's face, acting like the big man. When Show fights back HHH has the facial expression of a man who's just pissed his pants. Then Show knocks him out.

That's just a perfectly booked piece of comeuppance for a dictator like HHH. If anything, HHH is probably being booked a little too weak, the feud is too even when he, as the evil dictator he is, should be getting the upper hand more times than not - makes the comeuppance all the more special when it actually happens.

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I think the idea is supposed to be that Triple H is still frail and not wrestling from his Axel stuff buuuuut we're probably not actually supposed to remember that and I'm just seeing connections that aren't there.

[Hit Girl]

Oct 26, 2013 9:21:12 GMT -5 AdamAFL was sooooo wrong said:

Oct 26, 2013 9:14:51 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

That's a rare exception.

And has he really shown that much fear? HHH is so expressionless that it's hard to tell.

In his interview with Michael Cole, he basically brushed off the punch and got mad at Cole for even suggesting that it caused any serious damage.

That's because he's a delusional heel. There was no threat in that room (unless you want him to be scared of Michael f***ing Cole). He's just talking a big game. HHH has been himiliated plenty of times since Summerslam but lets just look at the obvious comeuppance segment:

He acts like a little girl hiding from Show behind The Shield but as soon as The Shield get the upper hand he's getting in Show's face, acting like the big man. When Show fights back HHH has the facial expression of a man who's just pissed his pants. Then Show knocks him out.

That's just a perfectly booked piece of comeuppance for a dictator like HHH. If anything, HHH is probably being booked a little too weak, the feud is too even when he, as the evil dictator he is, should be getting the upper hand more times than not - makes the comeuppance all the more special when it actually happens.

I didn't see much fear from HHH when he was confronted by Big Show. He just kind of stood there. I haven't seen this frequent humiliation since Summerslam. I must have missed it. He's constantly got the better of Daniel Bryan and shows no fear of him at all. Daniel Bryan doesn't even have much of a retort when HHH goes off on one of his "quasi-shoot promos that make him look better at the expense of every one else" promos that few if any are allowed to respond to.

And previous experience watching HHH's angles has conditioned me to not expect a suitable comeuppance. When it's all over, he'll prevail.

[AdamAFL was sooooo wrong]

Oct 26, 2013 9:25:13 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Oct 26, 2013 9:21:12 GMT -5 AdamAFL was sooooo wrong said:

That's because he's a delusional heel. There was no threat in that room (unless you want him to be scared of Michael f***ing Cole). He's just talking a big game. HHH has been himiliated plenty of times since Summerslam but lets just look at the obvious comeuppance segment:

He acts like a little girl hiding from Show behind The Shield but as soon as The Shield get the upper hand he's getting in Show's face, acting like the big man. When Show fights back HHH has the facial expression of a man who's just pissed his pants. Then Show knocks him out.

That's just a perfectly booked piece of comeuppance for a dictator like HHH. If anything, HHH is probably being booked a little too weak, the feud is too even when he, as the evil dictator he is, should be getting the upper hand more times than not - makes the comeuppance all the more special when it actually happens.

I didn't see much fear from HHH when he was confronted by Big Show. He just kind of stood there. I haven't seen this frequent humiliation since Summerslam. I must have missed it. He's constantly got the better of Daniel Bryan and shows no fear of him at all. Daniel Bryan doesn't even have much of a retort when HHH goes off on one of his "quasi-shoot promos that make him look better at the expense of every one else" promos that few if any are allowed to respond to.

And previous experience watching HHH's angles has conditioned me to not expect a suitable comeuppance. When it's all over, he'll prevail.

No fear?! He was terrified until his minions got the upper hand at which point he gloated but returned to being terrified when Show fought back. His plans to put down the "rebels" have constantly been foiled. Clearly you haven't been watching RAW then. The only time Triple H shows no fear is when he's got The Shield protecting him, never once has he presumed to get the upper hand of Bryan/Show or anyone else on his own. He's playing the evil dictator role, so I don't know what you want him to do in his promos. He's not exactly gonna stand there and praise Bryan/Show etc. is he?