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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 29, 2013 10:19:08 GMT -5
WWE should make moves to re-sign Jeff Hardy
He's really the only valuable guy they've got that WWE can make money on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 10:45:03 GMT -5
WWE should make moves to re-sign Jeff Hardy He's really the only valuable guy they've got that WWE can make money on. Kurt Angle and Sting say hello too.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 29, 2013 15:06:15 GMT -5
WWE should make moves to re-sign Jeff Hardy He's really the only valuable guy they've got that WWE can make money on. Kurt Angle and Sting say hello too. Angle is a potential Benoit. WWE will stay far away from him. I suspect a WWE crowd would no-sell Sting, so I doubt WWE care too much.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 29, 2013 15:12:06 GMT -5
Kurt Angle and Sting say hello too. Angle is a potential Benoit. WWE will stay far away from him. I suspect a WWE crowd would no-sell Sting, so I doubt WWE care too much. I dunno with WWE paying for his rehab they may give him another shot or at least offer a legends deal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 15:14:45 GMT -5
Angle is a potential Benoit. WWE will stay far away from him. I suspect a WWE crowd would no-sell Sting, so I doubt WWE care too much. I dunno with WWE paying for his rehab they may give him another shot or at least offer a legends deal. The E would take Kurt back in a second for a reduced schedule and probably keep him on a short leash as far as his addictions go, he'd probalby only have one chance. Sting would make them a ton of money just by doing interviews for various DVD's and a comprehensive Sting set.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Oct 29, 2013 15:48:30 GMT -5
Kurt Angle and Sting say hello too. Angle is a potential Benoit. WWE will stay far away from him. I suspect a WWE crowd would no-sell Sting, so I doubt WWE care too much. WWE would take Kurt back just so he could be a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble next year. A Rumble, I should add, that's taking place in Pittsburgh. Imagine the pop if that familiar music hit!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 16:41:18 GMT -5
Hardy would definitely be the main guy WWE would go after (he can still go and can draw for them), but I think they would bring in Angle and Sting as well. Angle would be on a short leash, and Sting (with HHH being the wrestling historian that he appears to be) would be someone the WWE would be able to utilize in some way or another. Although his time of being a big time acquisition are over.
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Post by kamero00 on Oct 29, 2013 16:45:41 GMT -5
"I Vince McMahon now own TNA"
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Post by rybackrulez on Oct 29, 2013 22:13:38 GMT -5
honestly wouldn't shock me. Bischoff for all his faults, probably wouldn't put up with most of the crap Dixie did. Also wasn't there a rumor when Bischoff came in that he was trying to devalue TNA enough so he could buy it for cheap? I dunno if I buy the whole Carters know TNA won't make money as much as Dixie just hasn't been a good owner. Remember after the whole "they" storyline Dixie's parents got more involved cause they felt she was doing poorly Bischoff will be better running tna When wcw had their downfall bisch wasn't booking and wasn't in power
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 29, 2013 23:25:17 GMT -5
And just think, somebody wanted to buy it in 2005 for 20 million.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 29, 2013 23:29:19 GMT -5
Can anyone shed some light on possibly how much TNA is worth? My thoughts are that it's fairly affordable for people who higher ups who have the money... It's just a question of who wants to take on that responsibility of running that company. Is it fair to assume that? Thoughts?
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Post by Ape Boy on Oct 30, 2013 1:56:35 GMT -5
Breaking News: Dixie Carter spotted with hugh wrestling player, expect this mystery man to be the buyer. {Spoiler} SpoilerAm I imagining things, or is that guy the spitting image of a Mick Foley/Terry Funk lovechild?
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 30, 2013 2:21:59 GMT -5
Best. Episode. Of. Shark. Tank. Ever..... Kevin wouldn't want to buy it, he'd just try and get a quarter for every t-shirt sold.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 30, 2013 2:39:14 GMT -5
Can anyone shed some light on possibly how much TNA is worth? My thoughts are that it's fairly affordable for people who higher ups who have the money... It's just a question of who wants to take on that responsibility of running that company. Is it fair to assume that? Thoughts? A friend of mine saw a post on Facebook claiming TNA had been sold to Viacom. I knew it was fake the moment I read that Viacom had valued the company at $1.2 billion dollars. And now, commence the mockery.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 30, 2013 6:19:27 GMT -5
honestly wouldn't shock me. Bischoff for all his faults, probably wouldn't put up with most of the crap Dixie did. Also wasn't there a rumor when Bischoff came in that he was trying to devalue TNA enough so he could buy it for cheap? I dunno if I buy the whole Carters know TNA won't make money as much as Dixie just hasn't been a good owner. Remember after the whole "they" storyline Dixie's parents got more involved cause they felt she was doing poorly Bischoff will be better running tna When wcw had their downfall bisch wasn't booking and wasn't in power lol The downfall began under his watch.
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Post by SOR on Oct 30, 2013 6:31:01 GMT -5
Bischoff will be better running tna When wcw had their downfall bisch wasn't booking and wasn't in power lol The downfall began under his watch. Depends what you class the down fall as. Most people say January 4th 1999 but that isn't true because WCW was doing great business at that time and afterwards. Thing's really started to die down around mid 1999 when Kevin Nash was booking. Nash was replaced by Russo and it spiraled even more, Russo was replaced by a board and it spiraled more and more. Eventually Eric and Vince Russo take over in April of 2000 but it was too late at that point but if you want to count that, Eric was only around for about 3 months anyway.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 30, 2013 10:23:05 GMT -5
Russo didn't come in until October 1999. By that point WCW was on the slide, and Bischoff presided over much of that even if his presence throughout 1999 was inconsistent, irregardless of spin, apologism or blind defence. In any case, none of his success in WCW (all two years of it) translates to his potential success running TNA. Entirely different circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 10:34:45 GMT -5
Here's what I'll say about Bischoff - I can't remember who said it but someone said something like this about WCW back in the day.
Basically his style of booking/writing did amazing business - AMAZING - it helped to kickstart a new boom period in wrestling and left and indelible mark on the entire sport. But by the very nature of his booking/writing style was centered around spending a lot of money without actually building towards the future.
It was a very "RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, no thought for 5 years from now" style of producing that brought about some very heady highs, but the lows were just as extreme when the pendulum swung the other way.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 30, 2013 11:33:17 GMT -5
Here's what I'll say about Bischoff - I can't remember who said it but someone said something like this about WCW back in the day. Basically his style of booking/writing did amazing business - AMAZING - it helped to kickstart a new boom period in wrestling and left and indelible mark on the entire sport. But by the very nature of his booking/writing style was centered around spending a lot of money without actually building towards the future. It was a very "RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, no thought for 5 years from now" style of producing that brought about some very heady highs, but the lows were just as extreme when the pendulum swung the other way. Ironically, his booking style DID set him up for future success in some ways: by letting guys like Mysterio, Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho, et. al. get over in showcase matches for awhile and then easing some of them into more important roles (e.g. Eddie had some top level matches, Benoit in the Horsemen, TV Champ Booker T, Cruiserweight Champ Jericho, etc.), he got the audience used to these guys, gave them a lot of exposure, and made the possibility of eventually putting them higher on the card a feasible concept. As you say, though, his desire to drive Vince out right away meant he was adding creative control clauses, meant he wasn't looking long term with his booking, and a lot of those very talented guys who should've made up the next generation (read: early 2000's) of WCW main eventers largely got fed up. It was a format not even WWE can really touch these days: people actually gave a crap about the first hour matches on Nitro and things like the cruiserweight division, so a number of those guys could've risen up the card fairly easily. If Bischoff and company had been thinking beyond "How do we kill Raw by next week?", it could've gone great.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 19:34:06 GMT -5
lol The downfall began under his watch. Depends what you class the down fall as. Most people say January 4th 1999 but that isn't true because WCW was doing great business at that time and afterwards. Thing's really started to die down around mid 1999 when Kevin Nash was booking. Nash was replaced by Russo and it spiraled even more, Russo was replaced by a board and it spiraled more and more. Eventually Eric and Vince Russo take over in April of 2000 but it was too late at that point but if you want to count that, Eric was only around for about 3 months anyway. Who gave Nash the book anyway? Why didn't Bischoff just keep booking if he was doing such a good job? By the way, January 4th 99 was the last time they hit a 5.0 rating against Raw, after that it kept falling downward. You can't just pinpoint a moment and say "this is when business headed south, whoever was in charge at the time it's their fault." Bischoff created that unsustainable environment of having his name guys run the ship so he could suck up to them and be their buddies. He didn't give the no-name guys a shot to come up and make themselves the main eventers of tomorrow. Instead of having the WCW guys take down the nWo, it got split into Wolfpac and Hollywood, so it was just a big main eventer pissing match. WCW rose to it's greatest heights becuase of Bischoff, but he's the one who ran it off a cliff as well. If he owns TNA, he'll be using his own money instead of Ted Turner's unlimited checkbook, so it'll all be down to his creative vision. And since he came into TNA, we've seen his creative vision, and in my and many others' view it's pretty much sucked. And ratings/attendance/buyrates/every mesurable agrees.
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