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Post by Lazy peon on Oct 28, 2013 14:20:19 GMT -5
Oh and imho the first thing the new owner(s) should do is drop "TNA" forever, no further mention of the letters going forward nothing, and just use the name Impact Wrestling Careful what you wish for. You could get: Amazing Super Stars All Night American Lucha Professional Enlightened Ninja International Superstars I bet AJ would be great at All Night American Lucha.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 28, 2013 14:38:23 GMT -5
Another topic I may be alone on, but here is my assessment: Bischoff is not as good as he makes himself out to be and has convinced a lot of people he is. He had a few good ideas that he worked to absolute exhaustion-and a lot of bad ones in between. His biggest success obviously was the NWO, which was a unique and innovative angle for its time. But he wasn't using stars he had made himself for it-he was relying on stars that other people had made. The NWO would not have worked without Hogan, Hall, and Nash, and without Vince and to a lesser extent Verne Gagne none of these guys would have existed. Bischoff also did not have to budget WCW out of his own pocket-everything was on Ted Turner's tab. The smartest financial decision Bischoff made was when he used Disney studios to cut production costs. If he were as good with money as people claim he would not have fallen into guaranteed salaries or blown money on celebrities no one cared about and wrecking vehicles at a time when the budget was tight. At one time Bischoff had Austin, Foley, Jericho, Triple H, Benoit, and Guerrero all under contract and did not use them to their full capability. All of them went on to the WWF and became huge stars, a few of them becoming some of the highest grossing wrestlers of all time. Bischoff didn't even have to try to secure WCW's tv deals, they were already set for him because WCW was part of the Turner empire. Bischoff gets way more credit than he is really due in my eyes. It's funny you mention that guys like Austin, Foley, Jericho, Triple H, Benoit, Guerrero etc weren't used to their full capability. Although that's true WWE is just as guilty as misusing a lot of talents. Hell, Look at Booker T. Top babyface in WCW then became Shane McMahons bitch. DDP? Ruined. In terms of actual talents both Kevin Nash and Scott Hall went to WCW becoming bigger stars as did Scott Steiner and a lot of others. As for your list of who became HUGE stars. I'll give you Austin, Foley and Triple H. The rest are just stars within the wrestling communities around the world. Benoit struggled to get out of the midcard a lot of the time... The fact that Vince has done the same thing doesn't cancel out Bischoff doing it. Guys like Benoit and Jericho may not have achieved Austin/Higan levels of success in WWE, but they did still make more money for themselves and the company as a whole than they had done in WCW. If Bischoff had not squandered their talents while he had them it would have been WCW's pockets they were lining.
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Post by Branimal on Oct 28, 2013 14:42:09 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say that if WWE actually does buy TNA, Hogan will be in trouble. Where is he going to go if WWE doesn't want him? ROH? Won't someone please think of the Hulk?!
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 28, 2013 14:50:43 GMT -5
Warren Buffett should buy it.
Berkshire Hathaway needs a wrestling company in its portfolio, brothas!
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Post by bootytea on Oct 28, 2013 16:47:15 GMT -5
Just keep it away from Paul Heyman and I will be fine.
I kind of want them to make a wrassling show that has the participants "swagged out" as the kids say, a ton of current pop cultural references and matches being interrupted by whacky segments to keep up with the low attention span of their target market.
They could follow the Family Guy formula by having a wrestler crawl out of the ring, grab a microphone, say, "This reminds me of a time when.." and then we are shown a clip describing what experience the wrestler was just talking about.
Maybe they do not have to go that far, but it would be nice to have a show that kids nowadays can relate to because it seems the major professional wrestling shows are failing to do that for whatever reason. Perhaps that is what is needed to make the spectacle cool again!
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Post by CrazySting on Oct 28, 2013 18:17:46 GMT -5
Brian Elliott, editor of the Fighting Spirit Magazine in the UK, has spoken to us about TNA being sold by the Carter family. He explained the following to us about the situation:
"The Carter family has been open to receiving offers for TNA for several months. There are a select number of business people on the inside to whom this has been made clear. You have to understand that it's not like the company is going to be listed on eBay; keeping the fact that they are open to selling TNA to a small number of potentially interested parties keeps the price that the Carters can get for it at a much higher level than if they went public that the company was for sale.
If someone does make a bid, that information will then be leaked in certain quarters, in the hope of starting a bidding war that would raise the price further. Like with Fusient Media's attempted purchase of WCW, if someone comes in with a bid, we'll soon know about it."
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 28, 2013 18:24:50 GMT -5
Look, if WWE buys it, they're free to keep doing crap like having 4 PPVs in a row end with a screwjob. ...TNA is still alive and they did it! There is no competition.
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Oct 28, 2013 18:39:44 GMT -5
Brian Elliott, editor of the Fighting Spirit Magazine in the UK, has spoken to us about TNA being sold by the Carter family. He explained the following to us about the situation: "The Carter family has been open to receiving offers for TNA for several months. There are a select number of business people on the inside to whom this has been made clear. You have to understand that it's not like the company is going to be listed on eBay; keeping the fact that they are open to selling TNA to a small number of potentially interested parties keeps the price that the Carters can get for it at a much higher level than if they went public that the company was for sale. If someone does make a bid, that information will then be leaked in certain quarters, in the hope of starting a bidding war that would raise the price further. Like with Fusient Media's attempted purchase of WCW, if someone comes in with a bid, we'll soon know about it." It's a bit ironic that they're probably looking for a money mark to overpay for the company now. I'd almost think the best thing for them would be if Viacom went the Bellator route and bought the company. Redo the whole office side of things since this one failed miserably, get someone that can be decent with the creative side of things, and give them clear-cut parameters on what they have to work with. Here's your TV slot, here's your budget, do with it as you see fit and we'll throw a lot of marketing behind you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 18:53:51 GMT -5
I am SO tired of the same old people in wrestling never going the f*** away.
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Post by CrazySting on Oct 28, 2013 19:19:42 GMT -5
Why does it really make a difference if it's public that they're for sale or not?
Is it a credibility thing?
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 28, 2013 19:25:12 GMT -5
Why does it really make a difference if it's public that they're for sale or not? Is it a credibility thing? It's all perception. If they're simply "open to selling", it implies that they're not actively looking to unload it; hence, they don't appear desperate in any potential negotiations, since they have a "we can take it or leave it" attitude toward the possibility. Make it public, and it makes it sound like you have a toxic asset, and nobody's going to line up with a decent offer for a toxic asset. It'd only work if it was a well-known asset that simply was going through some ownership problems, ala Frank McCourt selling the Los Angeles Dodgers: the Dodgers are a well-established and healthy brand name, so McCourt having to go public about selling them didn't suddenly cause a big drop in their value. TNA doesn't have that kind of cache, so the Carters would be smart to play things closely to the vest as long as they can.
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Post by CrazySting on Oct 28, 2013 19:40:56 GMT -5
Well, that explains Meltzer saying they'd be mad about him revealing the info.
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Post by Celgress on Oct 28, 2013 20:13:14 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say that if WWE actually does buy TNA, Hogan will be in trouble. Where is he going to go if WWE doesn't want him? ROH? Won't someone please think of the Hulk?!brother! lmao
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 28, 2013 22:20:50 GMT -5
Bischoff's first act as owner is to get Megadeth to perform on the first show. They will be doing an updated version of their classic "Peace Sells" with lyrics changed to "Carters Sell....Bischoff's Buyin!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 23:52:20 GMT -5
I got an idea.....ICP should buy TNA. New Bloom Period...whoop whoop mmfwcl
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 29, 2013 6:52:50 GMT -5
Breaking News: Dixie Carter spotted with hugh wrestling player, expect this mystery man to be the buyer. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Oct 29, 2013 7:23:37 GMT -5
Breaking News: Dixie Carter spotted with hugh wrestling player, expect this mystery man to be the buyer. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} AWWWWW SHEEEEEE! WWE is f***ed.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 29, 2013 7:52:56 GMT -5
Some other thoughts of mine: TNA should have started going on the road in 08-2010. Nothing too ambitious, just a handful of house shows now and then. They were not ready to move tv and PPV taping out of the Impact Zone, but a limited number of house shows at least would have increased their ticket sales and helped get their crew adjusted to some of the rigors of travel. TNA should have tried to make more out of the relationships they have had. Has anyone heard the Impact Zone mentioned on any commercials for the Universal park in Florida? Do TNA stars ever appear on any other Viacom productions? TNA never promote itself aggressively enough. Have they ever acknowledged when one of their wrestlers does an interview of public appearance? Mick Foley was working for them when he appeared on The Daily Show-they should have used that for all it was worth. That is how you expand your audience and draw in advertising-where he REAL money for production costs comes from. They were doing house since back in 06/07, they just never promoted them. Further proves my point. TNA actually had a great product with a formula that worked at that time period, but they were not promoting themselves to a degree that would have let them keep growing. And another little notion I've long wondered about: TNA perhaps should have talked to their landlords at Universal about the possibility of opening a second Impact Zone-at Universal's park in California, and then switched back and forth between the two locations. My thinking behind this is that switching between filming locations in Florida and California would keep TNA from wearing out their welcome at either location, letting their audience in both places miss them and anticipate their return to ensure more ticket sales as the date they would come back got closer. Of course, the key element in that would be TNA putting on good enough shows that the potential ticket buyers in either location would be that stoked for TNA to be back in town. Having a second filming location in California also would have had the advantage of allowing them to run more house shows in a different part of the country while still cutting down some costs with a central location to work out of.
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Post by SOR on Oct 29, 2013 9:33:22 GMT -5
Breaking News: Dixie Carter spotted with hugh wrestling player, expect this mystery man to be the buyer. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} "What is Rodd doing in the Impact Zone?!"
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Oct 29, 2013 9:59:13 GMT -5
Breaking News: Dixie Carter spotted with hugh wrestling player, expect this mystery man to be the buyer. {Spoiler} SpoilerDismissed as NEWZ, the pic is at least 7 years (and 60 pounds) old
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