Lancers
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Post by Lancers on Oct 28, 2013 22:25:51 GMT -5
They needed to elevate the Wyatts. They're using Bryan AND Punk to do it. I suppose the WWE feels that Bryan and Punk together can get Bray and his family into the upper card/borderline main event scene rather than have the Wyatts drag the two down to the midcards with them.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 28, 2013 22:27:02 GMT -5
He'll settle into the Punk/Jericho area and float between upper midcard and main event as needed once this thing is sorted out. It's not a terrible place to be. If nothing else he beat Cena clean before it all went to hell. Yeah but that describes everyone on the roster who gets regular tv time. Bryan was already doing that before the angle started.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 28, 2013 22:27:35 GMT -5
only known by anyone with an internet connection Number of facebook users: "Facebook says it now has 1.11 billion people using the site each month, slightly more than the 1.06 billion reported three months earlier. It represents a 23 percent growth from a year earlier." That's a lotta momma's basements!
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 28, 2013 22:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by The Portable Stove on Oct 28, 2013 22:28:17 GMT -5
Bryan's not a main eventer right now and that's frustrating, considering he was shoved out of the way for the Big Show.
That said, he'll get there. He's too talented to not be. It. Just won't be this year. And probably not early next year either.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 28, 2013 22:30:21 GMT -5
I don't see this feud as a demotion for Bryan per se. I do see it as elevation for the Wyatt's. But I don't see why the Wyatt Family needs to be pushed so hard. Why does WWE have to try to make every new person into a big deal fairly quick by having them run through all of the main eventers instead of having them actually working in the midcard/tag division against actual midcarders and working their way up? Because the Tag Division is doing fine? And because of how well it's done for The Shield? Just two guesses off the top of my head.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 28, 2013 22:31:23 GMT -5
Plain and simple, you don't book an entire angle and three PPVs off of an angle wherein the guy running the company says that the face isn't good enough to hold the belt and does everything he can to keep it off him, and then never let the face have his victory. By mixing in all of the real life stuff and all the matters of it being a matter for THIS BUSINESS, and then not following through, it gives the impression that they legitimately don't think he is worthy of holding the title, but felt like dangling a carrot in front of him and, by extension, the audience, until giving him an anticlimactic defeat. Giving him a whole commercial break before carting him off to another feud is just proof of that. you could argue Bryan got his victories, they were just taken away. I mean based on what we've seen the past few months Daniel Bryan is better than Randy Orton and it takes Hunter to even things up. It's sort of like Mick Foley vs the Rock, when The Rock vs Steve Austin is happening at Mania
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 22:31:53 GMT -5
He'll settle into the Punk/Jericho area and float between upper midcard and main event as needed once this thing is sorted out. It's not a terrible place to be. If nothing else he beat Cena clean before it all went to hell. Yeah but that describes everyone on the roster who gets regular tv time. Bryan was already doing that before the angle started. Everyone on the roster that gets TV time isn't an upper carder/main eventer there is a huge difference between Punk/Bryan/Jericho/Orton/etc and Ziggler/Alberto/Sandow/Miz/etc
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 28, 2013 22:36:14 GMT -5
Like some others have said, I'm honestly fine with this for now. It'll get the Wyatts elevated up the card by two guys who are SUPER over, and get them to truly be perceived as a real threat.
Then, likely, come Royal Rumble or so, Bryan will come back up the card.
Obviously, that is in no way guaranteed, but it seems likely.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 28, 2013 22:38:40 GMT -5
I had such high hopes for Bryan after Summerslam. He was just coming off a clean victory against John fricken Cena & was screwed out of the WWE Title by Orton & HHH - this was easily the biggest feud of his career & with Cena going away for awhile, he should of been the top star easily.
Instead, they've ruined most of his momentum by having screwy finishes at PPV's & moving a big part of the feud over to The Big Show. This is shades of the 'Summer of Punk' when the feud shifted off towards Kevin Nash & HHH rather than Punk & Nash. Not saying Bryan won't eventually end up winning the WWE Title again like Punk did, but saying Bryan is better off now than he was a few months ago is completely false.
After having so much hope for the WWE for the rest of the year, I am rather disappointed that we're back to Orton & Cena both being champions at the present time. They had something fresh & they went right back to the status quo.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 28, 2013 22:38:54 GMT -5
What WOULD cause you to have concern for the angle, especially considering it's when he just so happens to not be "your" guy? It's just a little weird to look at "I'm not concerned about a demotion" from the same person talking two months ago about how it's such a travesty that John Cena's legacy may not be spotless unless we drop him in a major heroic angle role. Put me in the "wait and see" column especially since I think this is a build to a Survivor Series overarching story with the Authority and the Wyatts in their pocket anyway. I...don't quite know what would make me want to bitch about his treatment at this point, aside from if all of a sudden he were jobbing to El Torito. Part of that is how he's gotten to pwn main eventers left and right- he pinned Cena clean and distraction free, Orton is his bitch when the playing field is level, and he just beat up both members of DX back to back nights- so it's not going to be easy to take the bloom off of his rose, so to speak. Also, another big difference between Bryan and say, Lex Luger, another rising star who had his big moment held off repeatedly, was that Bryan never actually "choked" the way Luger did by never decisively beating Yokozuna. Rather, Bryan's proven he can beat the best out there, yet the powers that be don't care and stubbornly go with their hand picked star. Logically, it'd be a lot easier for fans to stick with El Beardo, as he still manages to reward their faith admist all of the crap the Authority hurls at him. But admittedly, another reason as to that disparity has to do with Cena the performer entertaining me more than Bryan on average, also combined with Cena the man's long hard tenure. I'm a Bryan supporter myself, but some of my biases are always gonna get in the way.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 28, 2013 22:40:35 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan will win the Royal Rumble and beat Orton at Wrestlemania for the WWE Title. That's not going to retroactively make anything that happened before it entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 22:41:31 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan will win the Royal Rumble and beat Orton at Wrestlemania for the WWE Title. Not seeing Orton/Bryan 4 as the Mania title match. I think CM Punk is in the conversation for a WWE title match at Mania too. And who knows what Cena's doing? As for Bryan, I got really hyped when he put HBK in the Lebell Lock and the announcers talked about him finally snapping. I like the Wyatts too, so them feuding isn't the worst thing in the world. If they are doing all this to "get Bryan over", I think they're taking the longest most convoluted route possible to do something that's already been done. *Sigh*...we'll see.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 28, 2013 22:41:33 GMT -5
Yeah but that describes everyone on the roster who gets regular tv time. Bryan was already doing that before the angle started. Everyone on the roster that gets TV time isn't an upper carder/main eventer there is a huge difference between Punk/Bryan/Jericho/Orton/etc and Ziggler/Alberto/Sandow/Miz/etc To us there's a difference, but to the casuals and kids there isn't. You're right about Sandow, but WWE still wants people to think that guys like Ziggler and Miz are big deals even if they are getting jobbed out all the time. Otherwise, them jobbing means very little in the grand scheme of things. Alberto was pretty much the only reason the World Title still exists, so they could present him as a "star" When I think of midcard, I think of Kofi, Fandango, Shield as individuals, Axel, Big E, and low level acts like Ryder, 3MB, PTPs, Real Americans, Matadores, Gabriel, Riley, Yoshi, JTG, not former world champions like Miz, Ziggler, and Del Rio. Even though their stock has fallen, WWE still tries to have their cake and eat it too and pretend that they're "important" even when they're not in top angles. The only former champs that WWE actually treats as midcarders are Swagger and Khali
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Oct 28, 2013 22:41:58 GMT -5
It was fun while it lasted.
It's a shame that the record books will likely forever read Daniel Bryan; 2 WWE title reigns at a total combined length of 1 day.
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Post by Error on Oct 28, 2013 22:42:46 GMT -5
...if we get Bryan/HBK at Mania I'll be ok with this. I don't see that happening. After tonight I think it'll either be HBK v. HHH or Bryan w/Shawn v. Triple H. They're building that Shawn was used by Hunter and Hunter wasn't their when Shawn needed him.
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Post by Error on Oct 28, 2013 22:43:39 GMT -5
It was fun while it lasted. It's a shame that the record books will likely forever read Danieal Bryan; 2 WWE title reigns at a total combined length of 1 day. I don't think he reached 1 day. I think it was timed at 21 hours or so
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 28, 2013 22:44:12 GMT -5
Yeah, unless they're building Bryan towards the Royal Rumble and having him win it or a bunch of people get injured, Bryan's not getting a title run. I'm doubtful and I think WWE has done a good job of sucking the hope out of people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 22:47:03 GMT -5
I have no problem with Bryan and Punk feuding with the Wyatts.
I do very much have a problem with Bryan's spot as top face being usurped by the goddamn Big Show. I cannot think of a single person I am less interested in seeing get yet another main event run than that boring, immobile slug.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 28, 2013 22:48:34 GMT -5
Yeah, unless they're building Bryan towards the Royal Rumble and having him win it or a bunch of people get injured, Bryan's not getting a title run. I'm doubtful and I think WWE has done a good job of sucking the hope out of people. Id take Bryan beating HHH over a title run but Cena loses more than HHH does.
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