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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 2, 2013 0:21:08 GMT -5
It's nice the see the belt on someone who matters. I like that Cena's on Smackdown mixing it up with the mid-carders. It feels like they're being propped up instead of Cena being dragged down. I like that Cena actually being a regular character forces the Writers to care about Smackdown.
So I'm all for this, and not sad at all about Damien Sandow not winning.
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 2, 2013 0:23:51 GMT -5
I like it so far too, but we'll see. I also liked face ADR a lot as WHC back at the beginning of the year, and that appreciation fizzled out and died quickly with every win over every midcard threat every week.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Nov 2, 2013 0:34:20 GMT -5
I was very happy to hear that Cena was challenging for the title when he came back. The title has meant nothing for so long now, having a guy like Cena hold it can only elevate it. It might finally have some importance on Raw for a change - when's the last time the World Title holder opened the show? when's the last time the World Title headlined a show?
I also wasnt upset when Sandow lost - he's not ready to be World Champion in his current position. Having him win it would only lower it right back to where it was before & that's not what's needed now. Sandow showed tremendous passion & fire in his match with Cena & finally started to look like a potential champion & it will come later on down the line, after he starts picking up some victories with his new frustration & fire in his performances. Maybe Heyman could manage him to a title one day down the line.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 2, 2013 0:37:45 GMT -5
I'd say that the point of Cena being WHC IS in fact to drag him down. But at the same time I think that there's nothing wrong with that, because ideally, Cena in the World Heavyweight Title scene should allow young talents to shine on the A-Show and in the WWE Championship picture. And WWE doesn't have to haphazardly throw a World Title feud together because John Cena's feud already contains it.
Also, a feud with John Cena "who just happens to have the World Heavyweight Championship" makes a better means to groom new stars for the main event than actually GIVING the World Title to a midcarder and having them play Make Believe Main Eventers with other midcarders. And for that reason, I feel Cena should never lose it. Because if he dropped it to Sandow, Cesaro or even an "established" name like Ziggler or Miz, and they turned around and defended the belt against Fandango, then that just undoes all of the work he put into it.
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 2, 2013 0:40:29 GMT -5
Because if he dropped it to Sandow, Cesaro or even an "established" name like Ziggler or Miz, and they turned around and defended the belt against Fandango, then that just undoes all of the work he put into it. Well now you just made me want to see a Cena vs. Fandango program for the World Heavyweight Title.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 2, 2013 0:46:22 GMT -5
It's refreshing to finally have the 'workhorse' title on a guy who's got more to him than just being a 'workhorse.' Ziggler and ADR both showed signs in their runs, but were derailed for various reasons, and Sheamus' run was sullied by a perpetual ADR feud that lost any luster after they locked up a couple of time, and certainly couldn't be called on to carry the drama portion of any show.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 2, 2013 8:15:36 GMT -5
It is quite refreshing. Gives the belt prestige, which is depressing when you think about it. It's weird because it just doesn't feel like Cena is back, even though he is currently the number two champion.
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Post by Tha Don on Nov 2, 2013 10:21:45 GMT -5
Better than I thought, but hopefully this is all to make the other guy look good.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 2, 2013 10:34:36 GMT -5
Anyone is better than Alberto, so I'm cool with it.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 2, 2013 10:40:10 GMT -5
He just won the title last week, so I think it's still too soon for me to give any opinions on his reign. It's a good idea in theory to make Cena World Champion to boost the title's credibility, but who knows how the WWE will treat his reign in the coming weeks.
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 2, 2013 10:41:14 GMT -5
Didn't he say on SD that he will be more prominent on SD now that is WHC? More so than Raw? I am paraphrasing but I am sure he said something to that effect
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 2, 2013 12:25:43 GMT -5
Usually I'd like Cena as WHC as it's far better he has the belt than the likes of Del Rio.
However it undermines the WWE title and it's current storyline, it doesn't make sense that the holder of the WWE title is the face of WWE when the actual face of WWE holds the other championship. It's not helped by Orton vs Big Show feeling like a WHC feud (to me).
If there's a situation where Bryan, Punk and/or the part-timers are involved in big feuds the WWE title may end up not just playing second fiddle to the WHC but third or fourth fiddle to the other things going on.
So I'm not sure Cena is elevating the WHC or bringing down WWE title.
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Post by mizerable on Nov 2, 2013 12:48:44 GMT -5
I think the reason why I like it is that it isn't around someone's waist who benefits absolutely zero from it. I think the belt has meant squat since Swagger won it and we've seen several "try out" main eventers since then.
On top of that...and I hate to say it but...John Cena should have been booked more properly with the WHC the first time. When you look at his numbers as WHC and WWE champ, it's obvious which one actually means a damn to him. He should be probably be crowding top 5 in terms of time with the belt overall if they really wanted to make the title look good.
As I said before, when you have a top guy holding a top title, it elevates the title...not the person (just as long as it's not Ric Flair and the pity IC title reign). This is why I was hellbent they gave the WHC to Lesnar and just have him defend it 4 times a year. But this works too. Hell, have Cena drop it to Lesnar at some point...that would work too.
Of course, I'm saying this strictly as someone who doesn't want the WHC around, but if it HAS to be around, give it to someone who is a name and can hold it forever without looking like a stooge like Del Rio.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 2, 2013 14:42:47 GMT -5
Usually I'd like Cena as WHC as it's far better he has the belt than the likes of Del Rio. However it undermines the WWE title and it's current storyline, it doesn't make sense that the holder of the WWE title is the face of WWE when the actual face of WWE holds the other championship. It's not helped by Orton vs Big Show feeling like a WHC feud (to me). If there's a situation where Bryan, Punk and/or the part-timers are involved in big feuds the WWE title may end up not just playing second fiddle to the WHC but third or fourth fiddle to the other things going on. So I'm not sure Cena is elevating the WHC or bringing down WWE title. The holder of the WWE Title is the person that HHH WANTS to be the face of the WWE. I don't see Cena getting top billing as long as the Authority storyline is taking place. Evil Overlord HHH is the big headliner, not Orton or Big Show. As much as we hate Hunner for stealing the spotlight, his presence makes up for any lack of star power involving the people at the forefront. The World Title has always played third or fourth fiddle especially when Cena WASNT chasing the WWE Title. Now the title is contained within Cena's booking. That's as far as it will get elevation wise. As much as the product likes to revolve around Cena, he's most likely going to defend the title against midcarders. And no way is Cena vs. Swagger or Cena vs. Cesaro going to close a PPV.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 2, 2013 15:17:57 GMT -5
Didn't he say on SD that he will be more prominent on SD now that is WHC? More so than Raw? I am paraphrasing but I am sure he said something to that effect The dude is still hurt, so he probably won't return to a full time schedule for a while. So, he probably only has to show up for TV which isn't that bad.
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Post by Gwak on Nov 2, 2013 19:22:17 GMT -5
Going off of week one, Seems like it was good move so far. I liked his first match on smackdown in this run with the WHC was that 6 man tag, I enjoyed getting to see Cesaro/Swagger have some main event time. I hope we get to see some more of Cesaro/Cena on Smackdown down the track. I'm with you guys in that i'm not sure i'd want it to close/be on a PPV though.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 2, 2013 19:31:03 GMT -5
I like it. Makes me actually want to watch SmackDown because something important may happen.
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Post by percymania on Nov 2, 2013 19:36:14 GMT -5
I hope he turns the WHC into a spinner belt and makes doo doo jokes about internet nerds.
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