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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 2, 2013 8:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by theworld21 on Nov 2, 2013 8:43:34 GMT -5
Here's the HHH part:
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 17, 2013 20:04:53 GMT -5
Basically, he aint even mad.
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Post by No Name is needed Bro Beans on Nov 17, 2013 20:33:30 GMT -5
What I take from it is he's basically saying Triple H was never The Guy either
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Post by paywindah on Nov 17, 2013 20:37:19 GMT -5
What I take from it is he's basically saying Triple H was never The Guy either Yep, and he's right, despite Trips' attempts to re-shape history to make it seem otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 21:28:58 GMT -5
I don't know if this is getting worked into an angle or what, this stuff is just weird. Since it's on WWE.com I'd think so, but it might have just been done so Jericho can get his name back in things and promote his web series.
Or maybe we'll see Jericho be Vince's guy to take on Triple H at Mania, which wouldn't make much sense on Vince's part since in kayfabe H owns Jericho.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 17, 2013 21:31:20 GMT -5
You guys need to start reading between the lines. Clearly, Jericho wants to stab HHH with a screwdriver.
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Post by Error on Nov 17, 2013 21:34:33 GMT -5
I don't know if this is getting worked into an angle or what, this stuff is just weird. Since it's on WWE.com I'd think so, but it might have just been done so Jericho can get his name back in things and promote his web series. Or maybe we'll see Jericho be Vince's guy to take on Triple H at Mania, which wouldn't make much sense on Vince's part since in kayfabe H owns Jericho. It is Jericho, everything is a work. Not even sure he knows what is real and what isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 21:36:17 GMT -5
This is just setting up the Stephanie victory over Jericho at Mania as she fights for her man's honor.
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Post by molson5 on Nov 17, 2013 21:40:22 GMT -5
I think WWE.com is operated completely separately from the creative process, so I don't think you can read into it as promoting any kind of future storyline or something. WWE.com puts out so much content between the interviews, top 10 lists, etc, I get the sense these are just individual website content producers who come up with this stuff and then get it rubber stamped for publication.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 22:08:09 GMT -5
I don't know if this is getting worked into an angle or what, this stuff is just weird. Since it's on WWE.com I'd think so, but it might have just been done so Jericho can get his name back in things and promote his web series. Or maybe we'll see Jericho be Vince's guy to take on Triple H at Mania, which wouldn't make much sense on Vince's part since in kayfabe H owns Jericho. It is Jericho, everything is a work. Not even sure he knows what is real and what isn't. This is very true. But he's giving a very "political" answer while also getting across the point that he sees himself on the same level as Triple H. Ut's also breaking kayfabe in terms of "I can make them love me or hate me" or "we were the guys that worked with the guy". But, he's also bringing kayfabe accomplishments into the works. I guess it's intentionally confusing. If it was a work in terms of building towards a match or something down the line, I think he'd be more blunt and confrontational about it.
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Post by mizerable on Nov 17, 2013 23:34:34 GMT -5
What I take from it is he's basically saying Triple H was never The Guy either Yep, and he's right, despite Trips' attempts to re-shape history to make it seem otherwise. Pretty much. Triple H during the Attitude Era was the 6th or 7th most over guy, tops. I'd rank almost every other main eventer during the time above him; 1st Austin 2nd Rock 3rd Undertaker 4th Kane 5th Foley 6th Jericho (some bias since he was only a couple years during the'Wars) 7th Triple H He certainly got some big pops, but overall I don't think he was consistently as over as he thinks he was. It didn't help that he seemed to turn heel at times when it ended up hurting his popularity. He still got big, but during his "time on top", it usually ended up being the worst points of his career.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 18, 2013 1:01:48 GMT -5
HHH is "the guy", but unfortunately he's "the guy" who sabotages promising angles, buries talent they need to get over, and causes damage to the very company he's going to inherit.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Nov 18, 2013 3:53:29 GMT -5
Yep, and he's right, despite Trips' attempts to re-shape history to make it seem otherwise. Pretty much. Triple H during the Attitude Era was the 6th or 7th most over guy, tops. I'd rank almost every other main eventer during the time above him; 1st Austin 2nd Rock 3rd Undertaker 4th Kane 5th Foley 6th Jericho (some bias since he was only a couple years during the'Wars) 7th Triple H He certainly got some big pops, but overall I don't think he was consistently as over as he thinks he was. It didn't help that he seemed to turn heel at times when it ended up hurting his popularity. He still got big, but during his "time on top", it usually ended up being the worst points of his career. I don't know about your list. I think the seven guys you have there are pretty much the top guys there were, but I'm not sure if I agree with your rankings. I honestly believe that there was a period in 2000-2001 where HHH might have been the best wrestler in North America (in-ring + mic.) Obviously, I mean pre-quad tear, but I think that there is a bit of a prevailing opinion that HHH has always been overrated and I think that's true to a certain extent. That being said, I think HHH truly was THE best at one point and that kind of gets lost based on who he is.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Nov 18, 2013 4:00:40 GMT -5
HHH has only ever been overrated by the WWE. Everybody else underrates him because it's extremely difficult for people to separate the idea of the Evil HHH who holds everybody down and will own the company someday from HHH the performer. He's been typecast by smarks, to a degree...your mileage may vary as to whether or not they're fair in their appraisal.
However, as I think on it...the WWE doesn't even overrate him as much as they could. By their standards, they're actually extremely restrained. He does have a ton of influence...but they really never treat him like he's Hulk Hogan/Rock/Cena or anybody of that level. He's treated at Undertaker/Shawn Michaels/Bret Hart level. One of the all time greats...but not a worldwide icon.
They could treat him that way if they wanted to. They could do all sorts of crazy things.
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Post by Johnny D on Nov 18, 2013 4:47:31 GMT -5
Has Jericho EVER beaten Trips apart from that "flukey" win on RAW in 2001 which was reversed later on in the show anyway?
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Post by sunnytaker on Nov 18, 2013 13:06:38 GMT -5
did anyone check out the poll next to the article?
asked "who is better Chris Jericho or HHH?" so far with almost 84,000 jericho-holics voting it's 94% Jericho 6% HHH
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 18, 2013 13:13:53 GMT -5
Yep, and he's right, despite Trips' attempts to re-shape history to make it seem otherwise. Pretty much. Triple H during the Attitude Era was the 6th or 7th most over guy, tops. I'd rank almost every other main eventer during the time above him; 1st Austin 2nd Rock 3rd Undertaker 4th Kane 5th Foley 6th Jericho (some bias since he was only a couple years during the'Wars) 7th Triple H He certainly got some big pops, but overall I don't think he was consistently as over as he thinks he was. It didn't help that he seemed to turn heel at times when it ended up hurting his popularity. He still got big, but during his "time on top", it usually ended up being the worst points of his career. I would put Vince in the top 3, bumping HHH even lower.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 18, 2013 13:19:02 GMT -5
it's pretty much the unvarnished truth. Trips is a great wrestler but as a fan who watched during the Attitude era, he was never "the man" and when he did try to be "the man" later the ratings and buyrates went into a freefall. always like reading Jericho's thoughts, there's a guy who knows he can say whatever he wants because he doesn't need WWE as much as they need guys like him. and his lack of "I was the best in DIS BUSINESS EVAAR!!1" attitude is a refreshing change from some people.
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Post by molson5 on Nov 18, 2013 13:27:10 GMT -5
Did HHH actually claim he was ever "the man" during that promo?
I guess everybody just assumes that's what HHH thinks about himself, and maybe they're right, but that's kind of the point of the heel character, isn't it? He's got a huge ego but he can't really back it up with facts. Like every other heel ever.
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