mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Nov 3, 2013 17:20:48 GMT -5
Hilarious. Personally I saw nothing in Ryder then and I see nothing in him now. WWE made a great decision in making him a jobber I can say that I was never a Ryder fan, but I completely disagree because WWE made a terrible decision. Over is over and they should give the fans more than what is the equivalent to a fun size candy bar...no scratch that...more like a sample serving from Baskin Robbins. One of the biggest issues in recent years for WWE is getting fans to be engaged in the product. The problem is, the fans DO show support toward certain things, and WWE is not behind it at all. It's either what the WWE wants, or nothing at all. The guys that WWE continually push for more times than not aren't what the fans want. WWE is so far behind times in terms of booking stability in their characters, as opposed to heels and faces from the 80's. Zack Ryder should have gotten a modest push. A nice middle of the road program on Raw each week for several months, building to an eventual encounter with someone that WWE wants to get over as a big time heel. Have their heel put Ryder on the shelf and take his title, the fans will care. The fans will boo. Instead, they have Ryder drop the title to Swagger with zero build and zero payoff. Boy, Swagger was sure over from all that. *crickets* It's really frustrating because it's not like the US title meant a lot (however, Ambrose recently has given the belt a little stability & cred). Wait, what? The guy that barely defends it and spent the last two months pretty much as manager for Rollins and Reigns? Yeah, I don't know how Ambrose has helped it, outside of hold it for a while and get a bunch cheap loses. Who is he? The f***in' Honky Tonk Man? He's probably capable of more, but just because he is, doesn't mean WWE is capitalizing by making him a good US champion.
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klapaucius
Don Corleone
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Post by klapaucius on Nov 3, 2013 18:06:51 GMT -5
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Post by Starshine on Nov 3, 2013 18:28:40 GMT -5
I don't really care for Ryder either. But the way they booked him at the start of 2013 was completely ass-backwards. They seemed to do almost everything they could to break the character down down. They had him trying to unsuccessfully change a tyre for about 30 minutes and then made him look like a complete moron when Eve turned heel on him TWICE in one month?
It's any wonder he has any fans left after all that.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 3, 2013 18:36:09 GMT -5
Hilarious. Personally I saw nothing in Ryder then and I see nothing in him now. WWE made a great decision in making him a jobber I can say that I was never a Ryder fan, but I completely disagree because WWE made a terrible decision. Over is over and they should give the fans more than what is the equivalent to a fun size candy bar...no scratch that...more like a sample serving from Baskin Robbins. One of the biggest issues in recent years for WWE is getting fans to be engaged in the product. The problem is, the fans DO show support toward certain things, and WWE is not behind it at all. It's either what the WWE wants, or nothing at all. The guys that WWE continually push for more times than not aren't what the fans want. WWE is so far behind times in terms of booking stability in their characters, as opposed to heels and faces from the 80's. Zack Ryder should have gotten a modest push. A nice middle of the road program on Raw each week for several months, building to an eventual encounter with someone that WWE wants to get over as a big time heel. Have their heel put Ryder on the shelf and take his title, the fans will care. The fans will boo. Instead, they have Ryder drop the title to Swagger with zero build and zero payoff. Boy, Swagger was sure over from all that. *crickets* I couldn't agree more. Ryder was never and will never be a main event talent, but he's never needed to be. Popular midcard acts with an invested fanbase are hard to come by these days, so where is the logic in doing everything possible to sabotage it? The pipebomb line about McMahon being a millionaire when he should be a billionaire may be hyperbole, but there is a nugget of truth in it. If WWE actually gave the fans more of what they want to see they wouldn't be sitting around in their board meetings wondering why PPV buyrates are down and ratings are slipping.
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fw91
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by fw91 on Nov 3, 2013 18:45:45 GMT -5
heh, and i thought that his push would last
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Nov 4, 2013 0:34:32 GMT -5
It's not even like it was the usual push where WWE gives up a month in and decides that the guy will never make money; he was already making money. The whole thing seemed very spiteful towards Ryder's self-made success.
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trollrogue
Hank Scorpio
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Post by trollrogue on Nov 4, 2013 0:36:41 GMT -5
The funniest part is that Dolph Ziggler's run has been somewhat similar and yet inverted compared to Ryder's. Dolph jobs to Superstars and makes them look like a million bucks in the ring via hardfought 'game' matchups while Ryder jobs to heel Superstars who need to get some major heat by pummeling Ryder after he wins over he crowd completely with his offensive routine.
They both seem to serve a vital function in the WWE Machine and I doubt either of them, (as "professionals" like Booker T would put it) really care about holding a belt as long as they have such great job security. Only people like AJ Lee are shallow enough to care about a fake professional wrestling title. /JBL
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