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Post by thegame415 on Nov 6, 2013 23:17:02 GMT -5
Didnt Reigns just have nuclear Heatz in the summer? Now he's the next big star?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 0:56:29 GMT -5
No traditional Survivor Series match??? Just a bunch of rematches? Boo. It's to test the fans survival techniques apparently. "Big Show vs. Orton! Can you hang for the duration!?"
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 7, 2013 2:53:34 GMT -5
Didnt Reigns just have nuclear Heatz in the summer? Now he's the next big star? Punk did pretty well for himself too. Maybe all that nuclear heat is less the cancer-causing kind and more the Marvel universe "develop wacky superpowers" kind.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 7, 2013 3:20:05 GMT -5
Didnt Reigns just have nuclear Heatz in the summer? Now he's the next big star? Punk did pretty well for himself too. Maybe all that nuclear heat is less the cancer-causing kind and more the Marvel universe "develop wacky superpowers" kind. You might be onto something, with Punk resembling Wolverine and Bryan only a blue dye job away from being Beast.
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Post by BigBadZ on Nov 7, 2013 3:50:31 GMT -5
I can't wait to buy my 10 year old niece some Brie Mode t-shirts!! Gotta get them on the right track early.
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Post by CM Dazz on Nov 7, 2013 8:06:02 GMT -5
My guy!
I assumed Bryan & Brie were working together. Why wouldn't they?
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Post by Digital Witness on Nov 7, 2013 11:06:20 GMT -5
Does this mean that Brie Bella will soon have an awesome small package as well?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 7, 2013 11:09:34 GMT -5
Damn - boy's got stamina. who do you think taught Dolph Ziggler? as for Reigns, it's a given he's the next big thing but I really hope they don't rush it. let it build organically or else fans will resent him like they did with Del Rio and Sheamus.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 7, 2013 11:10:34 GMT -5
Punk did pretty well for himself too. Maybe all that nuclear heat is less the cancer-causing kind and more the Marvel universe "develop wacky superpowers" kind. You might be onto something, with Punk resembling Wolverine and Bryan only a blue dye job away from being Beast. Explains why Cena heals as fast as he does. He's got the Super-Soldier Serum running in his veins.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 7, 2013 11:15:29 GMT -5
You just listed a bunch of valid reasons to like him, and then said there's nothing to like. Sure they're valid, but they're not appreciated equally by everyone. I'm left cold by Intensity, and so I couldn't care less about the dude, since he seems to bring nothing else to the table. intensity worked pretty well for Batista, Goldberg, Ultimate Warrior etc. and I think Reigns is already better than those 3. pairing him up with a ring general like Rollins and a great promo guy like Ambrose was a great idea, plus they got over too. the Shield are pretty much the one group in WWE over the last couple years whose booking has been pitch-perfect.
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Post by Giul T. on Nov 7, 2013 11:25:34 GMT -5
Does this mean that Brie Bella will soon have an awesome small package as well? Well it is the Diva's division, Small packages and roll-ups are the most critical of moves.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 7, 2013 11:52:17 GMT -5
While I like Roman enough, I think I need to see Roman carry a feud by himself and have some good quality single matches before I crown him the new golden boy. I assume the WWE will give him shot after shot next year to solidify himself as the future. He will just need his own Orton/Foley match where he gets put over huge and looks like a superstar. I think that Roman has a great future ahead, but I don't like WWE's M.O. of deciding, ahead of time, that guy's are GOING to be the next big thing. It never usually works out that way. Most of their top acts got over, often, in spite of what WWE pictured for them. I wish WWE would just book him well, and let the fans decide if they want him on top. Hey now, Bobby Lashley, Alberto Del Rio, and Ryback were all destined golden boys that WWE just knew would work out, and they turned out just fine!
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Post by Crimson on Nov 7, 2013 12:02:20 GMT -5
More like the Ryback push. For all intents and purposes, Lashley was getting the type of push everyone else would die for. He was made the centerfold of ECW, got a high profile match at Wrestlemania, and even got a big promoted match with Cena. He bailed because his girlfriend got fired.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 13:42:49 GMT -5
I don't mind the idea of picking a guy to be the next big star and booking/pushing him as such, what bothers me is when it doesn't work for month upon month and they just keep pushing him at the expense of others that are getting more over. I mean after a certain point, you've just got to say "well that didn't work."
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 7, 2013 13:49:34 GMT -5
I don't mind the idea of picking a guy to be the next big star and booking/pushing him as such, what bothers me is when it doesn't work for month upon month and they just keep pushing him at the expense of others that are getting more over. I mean after a certain point, you've just got to say "well that didn't work." What I don't like is when they pick a guy to be The Next Big Thing, and when it doesn't work out, they get tossed to the wayside and neglected. Either they have the guy float around in limbo, crushing everyone else as a halfhearted attempt at pretending they still care and maintaining a false sense of credibility, or they do a complete 180 with a guy's booking and diminish them to nothing. So many guys' careers have been hurt because of this.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 7, 2013 13:53:48 GMT -5
While I like Roman enough, I think I need to see Roman carry a feud by himself and have some good quality single matches before I crown him the new golden boy. I assume the WWE will give him shot after shot next year to solidify himself as the future. He will just need his own Orton/Foley match where he gets put over huge and looks like a superstar. I think that Roman has a great future ahead, but I don't like WWE's M.O. of deciding, ahead of time, that guy's are GOING to be the next big thing. It never usually works out that way. Most of their top acts got over, often, in spite of what WWE pictured for them. I wish WWE would just book him well, and let the fans decide if they want him on top. okay, I really don't see how they could do otherwise. I mean they may have at least six hours of TV a week, but they have 50 odd superstars and divas, so that doesn't give everyone time to talk to let the fans get to know them. And they have to decide who will win the matches, it's not like they can win over fans with an always win, never lose push organically. And frankly modern fans have shown a disappointing willingness to turn on guys just because they're on a losing streak. So they kind of have to decide who they're going to get behind
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 7, 2013 14:31:51 GMT -5
More like the Ryback push. For all intents and purposes, Lashley was getting the type of push everyone else would die for. He was made the centerfold of ECW, got a high profile match at Wrestlemania, and even got a big promoted match with Cena. He bailed because his girlfriend got fired. Ryback's push wasn't half bad either, nothing really to complain about until the program with Cena ended. And while we don't know anything for sure, I suspect that was the problem, Ryback complaining too much ("pull the damn trigger").
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 7, 2013 17:58:35 GMT -5
I think that Roman has a great future ahead, but I don't like WWE's M.O. of deciding, ahead of time, that guy's are GOING to be the next big thing. It never usually works out that way. Most of their top acts got over, often, in spite of what WWE pictured for them. I wish WWE would just book him well, and let the fans decide if they want him on top. okay, I really don't see how they could do otherwise. I mean they may have at least six hours of TV a week, but they have 50 odd superstars and divas, so that doesn't give everyone time to talk to let the fans get to know them. And they have to decide who will win the matches, it's not like they can win over fans with an always win, never lose push organically. And frankly modern fans have shown a disappointing willingness to turn on guys just because they're on a losing streak. So they kind of have to decide who they're going to get behind You book him strong, like Batista was. You have him win. But you don't shoe-horn it when it doesn't fit, or when people want someone else more like with Lashley for example. You don't decide, super ahead of time, "This guy will be the face of the WWE" or Champ by WrestleMahnia whatever, because people might not want that, despite what the office wants. No one wanted Lashley as ECW Champion. He got booed when he won. RVD and Punk were the one's the fans were behind. But WWE manufactured a way in that Chamber match to get rid of both and focus on Lashley, and it did not work. Lashley was the definition of a guy whom WWE thought "should be a main eventer". But bar a brief period when Vince was involved, his popularity never merited his push. It was the same with Orton in 2004. That was why Batista ended up getting the shot. He was never intended to be the main event fixture of Wrestlemania 21 -- Orton was. But Batista just had a charisma and appeal that fans liked more, and they forced WWE to change the plan. Throughout WWE's history, FANS have dictated who was top guy much more than the office. They chose Randy Savage and Warrior. They chose Steve Austin. They chose The Rock. They chose Foley. They chose Cena and Batista. They chose Punk and Bryan. The office may want a guy to be "the next big thing" but fans should get what THEY want over what Vince does. They're the customer.
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Post by rybackrulez on Nov 7, 2013 18:14:51 GMT -5
I don't mind the idea of picking a guy to be the next big star and booking/pushing him as such, what bothers me is when it doesn't work for month upon month and they just keep pushing him at the expense of others that are getting more over. I mean after a certain point, you've just got to say "well that didn't work." What I don't like is when they pick a guy to be The Next Big Thing, and when it doesn't work out, they get tossed to the wayside and neglected. Either they have the guy float around in limbo, crushing everyone else as a halfhearted attempt at pretending they still care and maintaining a false sense of credibility, or they do a complete 180 with a guy's booking and diminish them to nothing. So many guys' careers have been hurt because of this. What i don't like is that they groomed and pushed ryback to the point that he was the most over face on the roster not named the rock. People wanted him to beat cena and he turned into a chickenshit heel. They turned a guy the audience loved, did his chant, and bought his stuff to give cena a guy to beat. And now look at him. He was the hottest act in wwe this time last year. They could have kept his push going and seen where he could have carried wwe.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 7, 2013 18:19:05 GMT -5
I don't mind the idea of picking a guy to be the next big star and booking/pushing him as such, what bothers me is when it doesn't work for month upon month and they just keep pushing him at the expense of others that are getting more over. I mean after a certain point, you've just got to say "well that didn't work." Blame the Rock. They push him as a huge f***ing deal right out the gate, fans loathe him and chant that they want him to die, he gets a new gimmick and keeps getting pushed, ends up one of the biggest stars in the history of the company.
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