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Post by turkeysandwich on Nov 9, 2013 1:39:39 GMT -5
I think in Vince's mind, that's different. Vince is probably okay with wrestlers being heavyset as long as they're in decent shape physically and can work. To him being big and plump is acceptable, but being a "regular sized" guy with a poor physique is not. so a doughy physique is a no go... ...but man-boobs are okay? I forgot about Chumlee's time in WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 2:06:55 GMT -5
When was Jack Parkman in WWE, and why is he so pissed off?
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Post by metylerca on Nov 9, 2013 2:07:42 GMT -5
When was Jack Parkman in WWE, and why is he so pissed off? I laughed too hard at this.
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Post by sybaku on Nov 9, 2013 2:07:49 GMT -5
Dude finally gets back in shape and they fire him? Either something more happened or this is a "message"
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Post by metylerca on Nov 9, 2013 2:11:43 GMT -5
Came into the thread to see if somehow the usual douche squad could resist making light of Hero's fans and their subsequent disappointment. I don't know why I expected anything different. Passively calling others with a different opinion the "douche squad" makes you no better than these people. I loved watching Hero and was thrilled when he was signed. I'm upset he's released the way he is, because that's his livelihood that got tossed out because he wasn't WWE sculpted. But being cynical isn't solving problems.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 9, 2013 2:14:55 GMT -5
Came into the thread to see if somehow the usual douche squad could resist making light of Hero's fans and their subsequent disappointment. I don't know why I expected anything different. Passively calling others with a different opinion the "douche squad" makes you no better than these people. I loved watching Hero and was thrilled when he was signed. I'm upset he's released the way he is, because that's his livelihood that got tossed out because he wasn't WWE sculpted. But being cynical isn't solving problems. Making condescending comments about the guy's fans being upset (not his release mind you; but finding pleasure in others dismay over it) is the very definition of douche. Even if I didn't care for someone getting released, I wouldn't mock the guy's fans. That's just being an asshole.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Nov 9, 2013 2:17:08 GMT -5
So, it's official. Chris Hero is back for ASW 10:
PWG @officialpwg 7m Chris Hero makes his return to PWG at All Star Weekend 10!
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Post by Larryhausen on Nov 9, 2013 2:19:27 GMT -5
Passively calling others with a different opinion the "douche squad" makes you no better than these people. I loved watching Hero and was thrilled when he was signed. I'm upset he's released the way he is, because that's his livelihood that got tossed out because he wasn't WWE sculpted. But being cynical isn't solving problems. Making condescending comments about the guy's fans being upset (not his release mind you; but finding pleasure in others dismay over it) is the very definition of douche. Even if I didn't care for someone getting released, I wouldn't mock the guy's fans. That's just being an asshole. This. There are people here who are not fans of HerOhno's work, and that's cool. But there is a subsect of people on this board that seem to be hate anybody that was a star on the indies just because of the fact that they were a star on the indies, and revel in the fact that sometimes these guys get released or get pushed down the card.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Nov 9, 2013 2:20:28 GMT -5
He'll be fine. The indys are probably more suited to him.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 9, 2013 2:21:35 GMT -5
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Post by Larryhausen on Nov 9, 2013 2:24:42 GMT -5
So, it's official. Chris Hero is back for ASW 10: PWG @officialpwg 7m Chris Hero makes his return to PWG at All Star Weekend 10! While I understand why they might announce this, I would've rather they pull a Cabana and just have him show up. Pop would've been monstrous. Either way I won't be there. My only "hope" if this is all legit is that he shows up at Final Battle in New York and that I can afford to go.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Nov 9, 2013 2:27:51 GMT -5
So, it's official. Chris Hero is back for ASW 10: PWG @officialpwg 7m Chris Hero makes his return to PWG at All Star Weekend 10! While I understand why they might announce this, I would've rather they pull a Cabana and just have him show up. Pop would've been monstrous. Either way I won't be there. My only "hope" if this is all legit is that he shows up at Final Battle in New York and that I can afford to go. Yeah, but the thing with Cabana was that he was released the day before Express Written Consent and nobody had any idea he was going to be there. ASW 10 isn't for another 6 weeks. People would have put 2 and 2 together during that time. Side note: You're missed at the Legion Hall, bud.
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Post by Razor Gives It A 4/10 on Nov 9, 2013 2:29:58 GMT -5
So, it's official. Chris Hero is back for ASW 10: PWG @officialpwg 7m Chris Hero makes his return to PWG at All Star Weekend 10! Might need to find a way to grab some tickets and get to Reseda for this show.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Nov 9, 2013 2:32:57 GMT -5
So, it's official. Chris Hero is back for ASW 10: PWG @officialpwg 7m Chris Hero makes his return to PWG at All Star Weekend 10! Might need to find a way to grab some tickets and get to Reseda for this show. Please do. I always love talking to people who come from out of town to the Legion Hall.
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Post by Larryhausen on Nov 9, 2013 2:36:26 GMT -5
While I understand why they might announce this, I would've rather they pull a Cabana and just have him show up. Pop would've been monstrous. Either way I won't be there. My only "hope" if this is all legit is that he shows up at Final Battle in New York and that I can afford to go. Yeah, but the thing with Cabana was that he was released the day before Express Written Consent and nobody had any idea he was going to be there. ASW 10 isn't for another 6 weeks. People would have put 2 and 2 together during that time. Side note: You're missed at the Legion Hall, bud. Oh, of course, but they still could've played dumb. Especially since there are no title matches at ASW. Have Cole come out, being the cocky prick he is, saying that aside from the six person match, he's laying out an open challenge for the title and BOOM. Hero's music hits. That pop would be monstrous, like I said. It'll be awesome no matter what, but Surprise Pop > Announced Return Pop every time. P.S. Appreciate the sentiment, my friend. And I'll tell ya, the colder it gets out here, the more I miss California. Hopefully I'll see you guys before too long.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 9, 2013 2:42:31 GMT -5
Honestly, I think he'll be back. No idea what this is about, really wish it wasn't happening, but bookmark this post so that 2-3 years when he's on the main roster we'll be happy with what we got following this dark time.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Nov 9, 2013 2:43:12 GMT -5
Yeah, but the thing with Cabana was that he was released the day before Express Written Consent and nobody had any idea he was going to be there. ASW 10 isn't for another 6 weeks. People would have put 2 and 2 together during that time. Side note: You're missed at the Legion Hall, bud. Oh, of course, but they still could've played dumb. Especially since there are no title matches at ASW. Have Cole come out, being the cocky prick he is, saying that aside from the six person match, he's laying out an open challenge for the title and BOOM. Hero's music hits. That pop would be monstrous, like I said. It'll be awesome no matter what, but Surprise Pop > Announced Return Pop every time. P.S. Appreciate the sentiment, my friend. And I'll tell ya, the colder it gets out here, the more I miss California. Hopefully I'll see you guys before too long. Oh, definitely. I mean that pop for Super Dragon when he returned at Steen Wolf was PWG's version of the HHH pop from Wrestlemania 18. It...was incredible. A surprise Hero return would have been gigantic too. Maybe not as big as Supes' but close enough. Side Note: Adam Cole already laid out an open challenge for ASW 10 and Candice accepted. So the main event of night 1 is Candice vs. Cole.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 2:49:25 GMT -5
Making condescending comments about the guy's fans being upset (not his release mind you; but finding pleasure in others dismay over it) is the very definition of douche. Even if I didn't care for someone getting released, I wouldn't mock the guy's fans. That's just being an asshole. This. There are people here who are not fans of HerOhno's work, and that's cool. But there is a subsect of people on this board that seem to be hate anybody that was a star on the indies just because of the fact that they were a star on the indies, and revel in the fact that sometimes these guys get released or get pushed down the card. It is a strange phenomenon. As far as I can tell it's because these guys are seen as over-rated by the IWC. I get that, but at the same time, a lot of these guys with fanbases have been working all over the world in different contexts and styles for a long time, and as a result they're really good at what they do, and why wouldn't they be? They earned that fanbase, and that skill-set, through their unique experience and journey, and people see that, respect it, and respond to it. It's not liking them simply because they're from the indies, it's liking what being on the indy circuit has made them, if that makes sense. I think some fail to see that so they just see it as "everyone loves this guy/girl because he/she it's the hip underground thing to do, and that's lame." An indepdendent wrestler with a following signing with WWE is a similar dynamic to a band with a small but loyal grassroots following parlaying that into a major label deal. The difference is, I've never encountered anti-indy (not the indie "genre", but DIY criss-cross the country playing for food and gas money type bands) music people that insist those bands are over-rated and make fun of their fans and say they'll never sell records. Maybe these people exist, I'd like to think they do because it would've been pretty funny to hear people bitch about how Kurt Cobain will never be a draw and that he doesn't have charisma or the look. On the other hand, the backlash against them from those "I was there from the beginning! They suck now!" fans is much more common than it is for wrestlers. That being said, it used to bother me, but I'm over it now. It only bothers me if I'm in a bad mood, and that's not as often these days. That sentiment hasn't been very prevalent in this thread, imo.
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Post by Chip on Nov 9, 2013 2:50:05 GMT -5
Oh, definitely. I mean that pop for Super Dragon when he returned at Steen Wolf was PWG's version of the HHH pop from Wrestlemania 18. It...was incredible. A surprise Hero return would have been gigantic too. Maybe not as big as Supes' but close enough. I hadn't even seen a Super Dragon match prior to this and even I popped huge for his appearance.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Nov 9, 2013 2:54:49 GMT -5
Oh, definitely. I mean that pop for Super Dragon when he returned at Steen Wolf was PWG's version of the HHH pop from Wrestlemania 18. It...was incredible. A surprise Hero return would have been gigantic too. Maybe not as big as Supes' but close enough. I hadn't even seen a Super Dragon match prior to this and even I popped huge for his appearance. I hadn't seen Super Dragon in the flesh before that show either. Watching him beat the f*** out of the Bucks that night was the pinnacle of my PWG fandom.
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