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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 13, 2013 0:48:30 GMT -5
Ryback was over as f*** going into Hell in a Cell, no amount of revisionist history can change that. How often do you get reactions so loud they shake the hard camera? And he stayed over despite loss after loss, and popped the goddamn building when he clotheslined John Cena the night after WrestleMania. And what does he have to show for it? A loss to R-Truth and "Goldberg" chants. Ryback's done. It's a damn shame, but they f***ed him, and they f***ed him good. I kinda feel sorry for the guys that bought Ryback merch like they could get invested in a guy that wasn't John Cena.
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Post by rybackrulez on Nov 13, 2013 1:06:52 GMT -5
Face turn via destroying heyman and the facgime.
Just make him unstoppable again and have him win any title
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 13, 2013 17:30:16 GMT -5
"It's great to talk ahead. I focus on one day at a time, but my goal is to be WWE champion, World Heavyweight Champion. My goal is to not just replace John Cena but blow John Cena out of the water. I'm very vocal about that. I want to beat John in all aspects of this thing - merchandise, fan base - because I believe I can. "That's what our company - the WWE needs somebody who's not going to be intimidated, who's not going to be afraid. I'm that guy. We haven't had that. We need somebody. John's not going to be around forever. "I have nothing but respect - I think he's one of the hardest-working guys in the history of this company but my goal is to be my best. And I believe my best is better than him. And he knows that too, and there's a friendly rivalry there and I look forward to seeing how I do against him in the coming year." www.digitalspy.com/celebrity/s216/wwe/interviews/a445038/wwe-ryback-interview-my-goal-is-to-blow-john-cena-out-of-the-water.html#ixzz2kZFD4dHP I know WWE likes guys who want to 'take the ball and run' and all of that 'if you're not in this business to be the top guy, get out' jazz, but I do wonder if comments like these played a part in Ryback's downfall. Maybe Cena or whoever thought he was laying it on too thick.
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Post by rybackrulez on Nov 13, 2013 18:15:13 GMT -5
He was the most over guy on the roster. He was just as over then as daniel bryan and punk are now, if not more over because arenas were shaking the hard camera whenever he was on screen.
Ryback is a huge missed opportunity. However if he turns face joins punk and bryan to "even the odds" against the wyatts/shield then we can start the rebuilding process
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 13, 2013 18:40:14 GMT -5
All part of the nefarious plan to make Ryback over with the internet crowd by misusing him. The same people who chanted "Goldberg" or wrote that he sucks on message boards will now become his biggest supporters. During Taker vs Brock at Wrestlemania 30, the fans will take over the match with their "Ryback" chants.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 13, 2013 21:00:30 GMT -5
Are we forgetting about all the stuff about major heat on him backstage, complaints about him getting sloppy and reckless, and all that? Because if so this has nothing to do with not being over, he just kept f***ing up and now that he's finished his program they're shoving him down hard. Yeah, they missed a boat with him, but this is reported to be his fault pretty hard.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 13, 2013 21:02:08 GMT -5
Shh...just let me pretend this is the start of a massive Truth push.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 14, 2013 6:55:54 GMT -5
Are we forgetting about all the stuff about major heat on him backstage, complaints about him getting sloppy and reckless, and all that? Because if so this has nothing to do with not being over, he just kept f***ing up and now that he's finished his program they're shoving him down hard. Yeah, they missed a boat with him, but this is reported to be his fault pretty hard. Backstage rumours are exactly that - backstage rumours. They correlate with his depush, yes, but that doesn't mean that they're true. Ryback was just as sloppy if not more so when he was getting over as a babyface, but suddenly when he's a heel and isn't over, there are rumours about his sloppiness being a problem.
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Post by Sam Punk on Nov 14, 2013 7:23:17 GMT -5
I like how Ryback was dumped by Heyman but yet Curtis Axel is still considered ok. I know he's the IC Champ but Punk has kicked his arse more than Ryback's I think. Which begs the question - why has CM Punk never received an IC title match? Probably the same reason Randy Orton beat Antonio Cesaro half a dozen times and yet never got a US title shot earlier this year. It's because Punk never petitioned the championship committee for a title match.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 8:03:23 GMT -5
Welcome to Raw is Country! Ohhh myyyyy, vintage Ryback!
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Post by 67 more on Nov 14, 2013 10:11:27 GMT -5
They should have just kept Ryback face when he turned against Cena. Turning heel killed him.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 14, 2013 14:01:29 GMT -5
I don't see much of a reason to discount the rumors, unfortunately.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 14, 2013 14:39:49 GMT -5
Are we forgetting about all the stuff about major heat on him backstage, complaints about him getting sloppy and reckless, and all that? Because if so this has nothing to do with not being over, he just kept f***ing up and now that he's finished his program they're shoving him down hard. Yeah, they missed a boat with him, but this is reported to be his fault pretty hard. Backstage rumours are exactly that - backstage rumours. They correlate with his depush, yes, but that doesn't mean that they're true. Ryback was just as sloppy if not more so when he was getting over as a babyface, but suddenly when he's a heel and isn't over, there are rumours about his sloppiness being a problem. Except they weren't jobbing him out to someone of consequence, but to a probably-not-getting-a-push R. Truth. There's a world of difference between being depushed and being dragged down like this. Whether it's really the sloppiness or not, there's clearly heat on him and he's getting punished for it.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 14, 2013 14:48:18 GMT -5
Backstage rumours are exactly that - backstage rumours. They correlate with his depush, yes, but that doesn't mean that they're true. Ryback was just as sloppy if not more so when he was getting over as a babyface, but suddenly when he's a heel and isn't over, there are rumours about his sloppiness being a problem. Except they weren't jobbing him out to someone of consequence, but to a probably-not-getting-a-push R. Truth. There's a world of difference between being depushed and being dragged down like this. Whether it's really the sloppiness or not, there's clearly heat on him and he's getting punished for it. But it really isn't that bad. Ryback will probably still be played up as a top level threat no matter how much he loses. And R-Truth is somewhat credible, even without a push. As irrelevant as he is, he's never really been a "jobber", and he does deserve to win a few sometimes. When Ryback loses to someone like Ryder, Hawkins, JTG or Riley, then we might need to sound the alarms. But I think he's fine for now.
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Post by Totorob101 on Nov 14, 2013 15:11:08 GMT -5
The guy is a joke now. He is impossible to take as a serious threat. My main memory of the guy is him quitting to being kicked in the leg by the miz and that will forever be my Ryback memory. I never liked the guy but he was getting over as a face before the heel turn, which has destroyed him.
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