It was a dark day for Ziggler yesterday.

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Losing clean to Curtis Axel with 1 week of build.

What's next for Ziggler? Epic feud on superstars with Yoshi Tatsu?

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The amount of ball droppage in relationship to Dolph Ziggler is staggering.

This guy, I can still see fans in the front few rows who are absolutely rooting for the guy to get a big win and are just so disappointed when he doesn't.

I'm not saying Ziggler=New Boom period, but a guy with a great look, personality and mic skills for days should be doing more than Kofi-Work.

[Peeetah]

Wait and see guys!

[Hit Girl]

He's a good example of everything that's wrong with WWE's management.

Unwillingless to push. All too eager to bury. I don't know why they do it. There's no possible gain and massive lost potential.

[odor31]

A little too outspoken in the media. Ruffled some feathers. Seems like a reality check.

All that being said, I blame Jack Swagger.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

I said it in the Raw thread, but he's basically what Morrison was around the time he left. Over, used, and had merch. But all he did was lose to whatever flavor of the month heel they wanted to get over. The only difference is I don't think Dolph's contract is up yet, so he has chance to actually do something again until it does.

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

WWE un-creative team are idiots.

[Hit Girl]

It would be like the writers of a TV show like Breaking Bad intentionally giving one of the characters bad lines and silly storylines just because they don't like the actor in question for some bullshit reason like he's said or done something that irked the parent company of the production company, or a restaurant telling a waiter to serve customers stale food because he annoys them.

This kind of thing seems unique to wrestling.

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I'm not Ziggler's biggest fan, but it's pretty apparent that the E isn't going to do anything with him so it's really up to him to decide if he wants to stay the course and keep getting the WWE's pay checks(which I wouldn't blame him for at all), or take off when his contract is up and show the E why they missed the boat. In the E it seems that if you're not a guy that they're really getting behind then you get one shot and if it doesn't work for whatever reason(oftentimes through no fault of your own) that's it they're content to keep using you but not really doing anything with you.

[Hit Girl]

If I were him, I'd stay and collect the paycheque, but I certainly wouldn't risk my health doing the insane selling he usually does. I'd half ass it. It's not like they can bury him any further.

[johnnytightlips]

I still don't get what the guy did to get this undeserved heat. It even sounded like, from the rumors, that no one could figure out what he said, from one of his outside media interviews, that pissed off management.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Nov 12, 2013 16:03:44 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

If I were him, I'd stay and collect the paycheque, but I certainly wouldn't risk my health doing the insane selling he usually does. I'd half ass it. It's not like they can bury him any further.

Sure they could.

He still gets to wrestle every week and the crowd gives a damn about him.

He's not like Hawkins who hasn't been on any of their television for months.

[metylerca]

Nov 12, 2013 15:31:15 GMT -5 Kayfabe FAN don't want none said:

WWE un-creative team are idiots.

As evidenced by this completely original and creative post.

Ziggler is a victim of somebody holding a grudge. No other way a guy gets depushed this bad, this fast.

[Lancers]

I bet he can make more money being a stuntman in motion pictures. There's no doubt dude can oversell a gunshot to the stomach for a John Woo film.

[Straight Edge Scrotum]

Nov 12, 2013 15:22:02 GMT -5 odor31 said:

A little too outspoken in the media. Ruffled some feathers. Seems like a reality check.

I think that's it in a nutshell. Didn't he supposedly badmouth Orton along with criticizing the WWE? You don't do that when you're still collecting a check there.

[Hit Girl]

Nov 12, 2013 16:08:29 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Nov 12, 2013 16:03:44 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

If I were him, I'd stay and collect the paycheque, but I certainly wouldn't risk my health doing the insane selling he usually does. I'd half ass it. It's not like they can bury him any further.

Sure they could.

He still gets to wrestle every week and the crowd gives a damn about him.

He's not like Hawkins who hasn't been on any of their television for months.

I doubt he'd be marginalised to the point that Hawkins has. They have buried Ziggler, but there's probably a lower limit to how far they'd got.

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This all really started once Triple H said he was too small, along with saying Miz is all talk. Both guys, dead in the water.

I know I know, I got worked. I'm supposed to hate the heel for burying 2 guys on screen and them having zero chance to refute any of it, instead getting jobbed out weekly to prove him right.

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Nov 12, 2013 19:44:10 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

This all really started once Triple H said he was too small, along with saying Miz is all talk. Both guys, dead in the water.

I know I know, I got worked. I'm supposed to hate the heel for burying 2 guys on screen and them having zero chance to refute any of it, instead getting jobbed out weekly to prove him right.

With how HHH is booked, you'd think losing to him would be like losing to the Undertaker, where you can just move on and it's fine. It sure as hell doesn't work out that way.

It's like you're BLASTED down the card after losing to HHH. Even if you just lose to him in a promo.

If you aren't winning a feud with HHH, you're better off not interacting with him at all.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Remember how not long before both of them left the company, Kaval and John Morrison were on losing streaks, then suddenly beat midcard title-holder Dolph Ziggler clean on TV right before Survivor Series to set up a title match at the PPV, which they lost clean?

Feels familiar...

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

He's getting buried depushed. I know people are gonna say newz but to me, it all adds up this time around. Dude went from feuding with Cena, challenging for the WHC, and being one of the hotter faces in the company to missing the last two PPVs and not even able to win the IC title.