Boo!
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Post by Boo! on Nov 13, 2013 8:10:29 GMT -5
Love him as a wrestler but as a commentator he was HORRIBLE. He could never react normally to something. Everything was a mini promo. He'd have to hype everything. Not so bad on taped shows where he could be heavily edited but on the live PPVs it was ridiculous. Where as Ventura or Heenan might say "what a clothesline, he took his head off" Savage would say "Clothesline there, this is what it's about, Summerslam, lock and load, do the thing, we've gone here to get it on, lets do it like they're in the ring, this is what it's all about, WWF, live, nothing beats the WWF live, yeah, tremendous athletes doing the thing, digit?"
...and it'd be for everything. Who thought he was any good in that position?
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Nov 13, 2013 10:24:22 GMT -5
He's not traditionally good and I was never a huge fan of his commentary--but he brought something different to the table as a color guy. That counts for something.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 11:07:40 GMT -5
Love him as a wrestler but as a commentator he was HORRIBLE. He could never react normally to something. Wait a minute. You're commenting that RANDY MACHO MAN SAVAGE could never react normally to something. .........you clearly don't understand anything about the man you're complaining about. But really, that was the point. Plus he knew his sh*t, he was more entertaining than much of the commentary that succeeded him in the 1990's, and he's RANDY SAVAGE. I cannot not like his commentary, for those and other purely self-nostaligic reasons.
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Nov 13, 2013 13:00:32 GMT -5
He wasn't that bad. When he was hyping something that he didn't believe himself..it was bad. When he needed to step in there to cover something up, he did okay. I dread what KOTR 1994 would have been if he didn't jump in there instead of Monsoon.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Nov 13, 2013 14:06:50 GMT -5
He wasn't that bad. When he was hyping something that he didn't believe himself..it was bad. When he needed to step in there to cover something up, he did okay. I dread what KOTR 1994 would have been if he didn't jump in there instead of Monsoon. I thought he did OK with Heenan and JR.
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Boo!
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Nov 13, 2013 15:34:45 GMT -5
He wasn't that bad. When he was hyping something that he didn't believe himself..it was bad. When he needed to step in there to cover something up, he did okay. I dread what KOTR 1994 would have been if he didn't jump in there instead of Monsoon. I thought he did OK with Heenan and JR. Thought he was horrible at WM IX and destroyed any two-way between Heenan and JR but thinking he he wasn't the on speaking every other turn something was wrong.
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 13, 2013 16:57:31 GMT -5
Off the top of my head I could name probably 20 or more regular commentators worse than Savage. He was entertaining and always tried to put the guys in the ring over.
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Professor Chaos
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 13, 2013 17:26:11 GMT -5
I loved when he was on commentary with Vince and Piper.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Nov 13, 2013 17:48:57 GMT -5
As far as I can recall, he only ever commentated in a three-man booth, correct? I never minded him as (KOTR '94 inadvertently none-withstanding) the responsibilities of traditional play-by-play or color never fell solely on his shoulders. He only had to chime in with his Savage-isms when he had a free moment to riff, and it was fun. Especially on those Colosseum releases where he could just go nuts.
Same reason why I think Lawler's work now is the best he's been in eleven years. He doesn't have to push storylines or describe the actions, just chime in for a veteran perspective whenever it works. It's lead to a funnier Lawler who doesn't have to sound drained because he's forced to just keep talking. Same reason why I'll always love the Tony-Brain-Dusty WCW team.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 13, 2013 17:54:06 GMT -5
Nope. Loved him.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 13, 2013 18:30:34 GMT -5
He was fine. I could never hate Macho's voice, whatever he said.
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 13, 2013 18:50:24 GMT -5
As far as I can recall, he only ever commentated in a three-man booth, correct? I seem to remember some Raws were just him and McMahon. One where he said Bull Nakano was an old flame of his as well as saying, around the time the movie "Ed Wood" came out, he watched George "The Animal" Steele when he was a "Macho Baby".
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 13, 2013 21:22:15 GMT -5
100 percent with the OP on this one. Savage made Raw hard to watch for me. Worst wrestler-turned-commentator ever, and I'm counting Pete Doherty and Hillbilly Jim in that.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 13, 2013 21:35:37 GMT -5
Isn't it something that a man shrouded in darkness like the Undertaker can bring so much light to the world?
I hope you like that line, 'cause Macho Man was so proud of it he found a way to use it in EVERY. SINGLE. UNDERTAKER. MATCH. HE. EVER. COMMENTATED.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 21:42:52 GMT -5
DO THE THING!
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 13, 2013 21:56:45 GMT -5
On a really short list of all time great promo guys but if someone wants to nominate him as one of the worst commentators, I won't argue.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Nov 13, 2013 22:35:57 GMT -5
100 percent with the OP on this one. Savage made Raw hard to watch for me. Worst wrestler-turned-commentator ever, and I'm counting Pete Doherty and Hillbilly Jim in that. There's absolutely no way Savage was worse than Zybzscko. At least Savage kept the attention on what's happening in the ring and not putting himself over on the golf course. Also, I think Savage's commentary work with mid-90s WCW is under-appreciated. I remember he really made what the light-heavyweights were doing in the pre-cruiserweight division times feel like a huge deal. For example, this Pillman-Bagwell match from '95 Savage really helped make seem like a big deal - www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-l0OM9eGGM
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Post by Dean-o on Nov 14, 2013 0:09:52 GMT -5
I could listen to him on commentary all day long.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Nov 14, 2013 0:18:08 GMT -5
In a way, Savage was on par with Mongo on commentary. Mongo gets a lot more shit just because he clearly had no idea what he was watching and would make stuff up on the spot, whereas Savage knew what he was seeing.. but was unsure how to react to it.
I mean, really.... "That's appropoe, and that don't mean digging around with farm implements" isn't that far off from "Owen Hart, you are infamous. And that don't mean famous, that means infamous."
Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy him on commentary, but some of his stuff DID make me cringe at times.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 14, 2013 1:55:07 GMT -5
Maybe it's due to nostalgia from my childhood, but Randy Savage is probably one of my top 5 favorite commentators of all-time.
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