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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 15, 2013 10:43:45 GMT -5
It's time to settle this. What ruined the Tensai gimmick?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 15, 2013 10:53:19 GMT -5
The main thing, to me, would have been the "slow, methodical" wrestling style he adopted. If he just straight-up wrecked people right out of the gate (like Umaga did) he might have gotten a lot more mileage out of the original Lord version of the gimmick.
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Post by slappy on Nov 15, 2013 10:56:42 GMT -5
The shareholders.
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Post by mo on Nov 15, 2013 10:57:47 GMT -5
It was a fat white dude pretending to be some kind of Japanese deity in what looked like a red diaper with tiremarks on his face making "HIYA!!" hand movements and moving at the speed of molasses. I'd say it was destined to fail  |
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Post by angryfan on Nov 15, 2013 11:04:52 GMT -5
It was a fat white dude pretending to be some kind of Japanese deity in what looked like a red diaper with tiremarks on his face making "HIYA!!" hand movements and moving at the speed of molasses. I'd say it was destined to fail To be fair, Yokozuna was a fat Samoan guy pretending to be Japanese. Not quite as glaring, but same ballpark. Also, I heard your line about "HIY" hadn movements in Doctor Krieger's voice, and laughed. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 15, 2013 11:10:28 GMT -5
Probably him pinning Punk and Cena, who were both red hot at the time (interference heavy in both instances, but still notable wins) without any buildup or followup afterwards, leaving fans to think "ok, now what?".
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 15, 2013 11:11:52 GMT -5
the fact that they didn't just bring him in as Albert from the beginning.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Nov 15, 2013 11:15:53 GMT -5
Fat american guy pretending to be japanese in 2012/13 who worked in the same company before.
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Post by hassanchop on Nov 15, 2013 11:24:04 GMT -5
It was us. It was us all along. Austin. It was a fat white dude pretending to be some kind of Japanese deity in what looked like a red diaper with tiremarks on his face making "HIYA!!" hand movements and moving at the speed of molasses. I'd say it was destined to fail To be fair, Yokozuna was a fat Samoan guy pretending to be Japanese. Not quite as glaring, but same ballpark. Also, I heard your line about "HIY" hadn movements in Doctor Krieger's voice, and laughed. To be fair they all said he was from Polynesia, even if we didn't listen. And Pacific Islanders have practiced sumo. Rikishi was supposed to be like a sumo since Rikishi is a sumo rank and Japanese for strong man. |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 15, 2013 11:25:53 GMT -5
The boring, methodical style that WWE decided to give him. It was dull.
Oddly... once he stopped getting a huge push, the WWE seemed to relax a bit and actually let him wrestle a more entertaining style his matches became good. Which is exactly the same as what happened with Drew McIntyre actually.
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Post by Instant Classic on Nov 15, 2013 11:26:12 GMT -5
He got to wrestle Punk, Cena, Orton, Sheamus I'm happy.
But the evening gown thing ruined it.
Tensai FTW!!!
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 15, 2013 11:32:03 GMT -5
The gimmick itself.
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 15, 2013 11:35:59 GMT -5
As mentioned, the slow, methodical style didn't do him any favors. But one reason that I think didn't help is that they never let him address that he used to be Albert. Yeah, the announce team was saying he wrestled for WWE in the past, but that was it. Hell, they even had Santino bring up that he was Albert. If they had allowed him to say something about it, it may not have completely saved the gimmick, but it would've helped.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 15, 2013 11:44:51 GMT -5
The Tensai gimmick ruined the Tensai gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 11:49:40 GMT -5
He's just not very good. Don't bother bringing up his Japan work, because I'm a huge New Japan guy and I've seen a ton of it. The dude ALWAYS wrestles this slow pace where he clubs people to death and it very rarely works. He comes across as super hokey with his really lame looking offense and cheesy "HI-YAAAAAAAAH" every time he throws a punch. He's the kind of wrestler people who aren't wrestling fans make fun of when they think of wrestling.
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Post by wwefan71080 on Nov 15, 2013 11:54:22 GMT -5
His booking was a joke
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Post by tekkenguy on Nov 15, 2013 11:55:30 GMT -5
I think the cartoonishness of the gimmick is what caused it to fail. If they just brought him in as Albert or A-Train, he would've worked out fine.
He was also booked very badly. If they put him in a feud with, say, Randy Orton, he would've had a great shot to get over. Instead, they just made him Big Johnny's big muscle and didn't put him in any storyline. The most memorable thing he's done in the past year was wear a bra.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 15, 2013 12:10:09 GMT -5
The main thing, to me, would have been the "slow, methodical" wrestling style he adopted. If he just straight-up wrecked people right out of the gate (like Umaga did) he might have gotten a lot more mileage out of the original Lord version of the gimmick. Yeah, this along with the goofy karate poses after every move... the entrance robe was pretty bad ass I thought... and the mist claw I could live with. |
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 15, 2013 13:32:00 GMT -5
SKY LOW LOW
IS THAT THE GUY?
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Nov 15, 2013 13:34:21 GMT -5
Bret.
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