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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 16, 2013 6:06:24 GMT -5
Just scoped out ADR's record, as I'd heard "eh, it's decent". 7 submission victories, one TKo when he broke a guy's arm, and a win via a head kick. Five losses, one of which was a DQ when he went for a rope break it appears. Lesnar is a physical freak, we all know that, and has at least 50 points on ADR. I still think Lesnar would win, but damn, ADR was better in MMA than I thought, or at least his record was. His record isn't really that great when you consider the fighters who he defeated were straight up soup cans. Exactly. The only credible opponent ADR ever fought was Cro Cop. And that lasted like ten seconds.
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Post by Instant Classic on Nov 16, 2013 6:50:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I prefer the bully persona to whatever he was when he was face. Even though a face turn may help him, I feel like it's going to be a regression in his character. Yeah. Plus the Bully persona is an easy way to get him interacting with other people on the roster. Like have a few fueds with low carders where he goes over before finally going down to someone like a re-pushed guy, a debuting NXT'er or a returning guy like Sheamus. I was hoping for e bully Ryback vs Sheamus match at Summerslam, but then Sheamus got injured.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 16, 2013 8:36:41 GMT -5
His record isn't really that great when you consider the fighters who he defeated were straight up soup cans. Exactly. The only credible opponent ADR ever fought was Cro Cop. And that lasted like ten seconds. And it's still in amongst my favourite fights simply for the fact that A, They let him wear his mask and B, He gets absolutely crushed by that headkick. ALBERTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOoh
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Post by Dang! on Nov 16, 2013 9:04:37 GMT -5
Ryback vs. Goldberg would probably be a squash like Adam Bomb Vs. Earthquake back then.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 16, 2013 9:50:25 GMT -5
Just a thought: if/when tge Shield does break up, Ryback and Reigns might make a good tag team pair, either as faces or heels.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 9:51:34 GMT -5
Exactly. The only credible opponent ADR ever fought was Cro Cop. And that lasted like ten seconds. And it's still in amongst my favourite fights simply for the fact that A, They let him wear his mask and B, He gets absolutely crushed by that headkick. ALBERTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOoh I love the little punch at the end. Way to add insult to injury.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 16, 2013 9:53:30 GMT -5
I'd take him out of that absurd singlet he wears and have him wrestle in street clothes. Make him look like a bad ass by turning up in jeans and a shirt and beating the crap out of people. Tough men, genuine tough men, don't get changed into leotards before they start beating people up.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 16, 2013 9:59:04 GMT -5
And it's still in amongst my favourite fights simply for the fact that A, They let him wear his mask and B, He gets absolutely crushed by that headkick. ALBERTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOoh I love the little punch at the end. Way to add insult to injury. To be fair, it looks like he lightly brushes him with his leg, he probably thought Del Rio was just playing possum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 10:44:50 GMT -5
I'd take him out of that absurd singlet he wears and have him wrestle in street clothes. Make him look like a bad ass by turning up in jeans and a shirt and beating the crap out of people. Tough men, genuine tough men, don't get changed into leotards before they start beating people up. I've wondered if the less conventional wrestling attire in the late 90s was part of the reason wrestling got more popular. In the Attitude Era there were a lot more guys fighting in jeans or full bodysuits like Kane or whatever the hell you'd call what Road Dogg wore. Not that trunks had gone along the wayside but it was definitely different from today when mostly everyone wears the standard trunks with a design and some boots or some kickpads. Also, the wrestlers wore street clothes during interviews, instead of that awful t-shirt/trunks look everyone sports now. It's the little things that drive people away, or reel them in.
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Post by Boo! on Nov 16, 2013 10:50:21 GMT -5
I'd take him out of that absurd singlet he wears and have him wrestle in street clothes. Make him look like a bad ass by turning up in jeans and a shirt and beating the crap out of people. Tough men, genuine tough men, don't get changed into leotards before they start beating people up. I've wondered if the less conventional wrestling attire in the late 90s was part of the reason wrestling got more popular. In the Attitude Era there were a lot more guys fighting in jeans or full bodysuits like Kane or whatever the hell you'd call what Road Dogg wore. Not that trunks had gone along the wayside but it was definitely different from today when mostly everyone wears the standard trunks with a design and some boots or some kickpads. Also, the wrestlers wore street clothes during interviews, instead of that awful t-shirt/trunks look everyone sports now. It's the little things that drive people away, or reel them in. Agreed in part. It's fine for most guys, the average gimmick. Ziggler or Fandango couldn't be in sweatpants and sneakers, but for someone who you want to build as a non-nonsense tough, SOB then the colourful outfit just doesn't fit. Austin - black Goldberg - black Cena - jeans (well, jorts, but you get the idea)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 12:26:48 GMT -5
Ryback vs. Zack Ryder feud. The catch: It's on a PPV.
Pick a winner. It can't be done.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 16, 2013 12:34:30 GMT -5
Ryback sucks.
If WWE wants to push a hoss, they've already got a good one with power and charisma.
He's called Big E Langston and he's superior to Ryback in every way.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 19, 2013 16:17:20 GMT -5
Today's news update
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Post by Ape Boy on Nov 19, 2013 16:41:20 GMT -5
...only to people who don't understand pro wrestling. To those of us who do understand pro wrestling, we immediately recognize that Ryback has the it factor. He has both immense charisma, evident from the moment he debuted on SmackDown, and he has shockingly good mic skills, most evident during his gripping heel turn promo directed at Cena. Throw in a billion dollar body, and surprising speed and agility, and you've got yourself a megastar if booked correctly. ...and there's your problem. "If booked correctly." We all know how that went.
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Post by Ape Boy on Nov 19, 2013 16:43:49 GMT -5
WWE working the fans in anticipation of a future Ryback vs. Goldberg match?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 16:46:22 GMT -5
If they've been making the comparison on commentary and half the roster already uses the Spear, what the hell difference would it make? Plus, it's not like Ryback's just suddenly being made to look like a loser. They've seemingly done everything they can to try to undermine him ever since his first match with an actual guy on the roster was barely beating Swagger when he was at his most jobber-ish.
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Post by sportatorium on Nov 19, 2013 16:49:23 GMT -5
...only to people who don't understand pro wrestling. To those of us who do understand pro wrestling, we immediately recognize that Ryback has the it factor. He has both immense charisma, evident from the moment he debuted on SmackDown, and he has shockingly good mic skills, most evident during his gripping heel turn promo directed at Cena. Not sure if srs. He did his best work not saying much besides Feed Me More & squashing people. His best moment was stepping between Punk & Mick Foley & eyeballing Punk. Monster heels aren't supposed to cut their first promo about feeling a bit violated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 16:51:08 GMT -5
Ryback should get a George Costanza trying to get fired from the Yankees gimmick. He could show up in one of Vince Sr's suits, use the Pedigree on someone, drag the WWE title behind his Ryback mobile while yelling through a megaphone.
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Post by Ape Boy on Nov 19, 2013 16:53:09 GMT -5
Monster heels aren't supposed to cut their first promo about feeling a bit violated. Ryback's not your typical generic monster heel. He has mic skills. He has personality. He doesn't have to hide behind his brute like a Brock Lesnar does. His character has far more potential than that.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 19, 2013 17:39:32 GMT -5
This is another example of them stupidly not running with something when it was hot. Ryback vs. Goldberg no longer makes any sense, because Ryback isn't 'winning streak guy,' he is 'midcard ill-defined heel sorta-gay, sorta anti-bullying guy.' Seriously, he has about as much credibility as Hugh Morrus at this point, so just bring Goldberg back and let him start a new streak.
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