WWF history had WCW 'won'

[Boo!]

So it's summer 2001. WCW remains the only game in town after an unexpected change of management at AOL/Time Warner, ratings soared, sponsors left Vince and Turner purchased WWF for a nominal a few months ago.

Many years later, how is WWF remembered?

In my view there'd be current WWE employee who'd work for WCW who'd take to DVD and the internet to rip the company. "Oh sure, Vince did something right but turning Austin heel was just a sign of a company that didn't know what it was doing". DX would have been an embarrassment.

JR would be there. "I've worked both places and the best thing I can say about McMahon is that he tried. But he was never that good"

There'd be slagging off of all the missed opportunities, poor gimmicks, the 'new generation' etc.

Essentially a lot of the "couldn't organise a drunk teen at a Frat house" comment aimed at WCW by people who worked there would be aimed at WWF and we'd now retrospectively see McMahon as some creative bust who had two good ideas in about 30 years. McMahon ass-kissers would be Turner ass-kissers.

Brisco "That son of a bitch just didn't know what he was doing"
Pritchard: "It was chaos. Nobody knew what was going on"

As it is DX was 'revolutionary' the new generation was 'forward thinking' Austin's heel turn was 'shocking' and McMahon single handedly created wrestling.

[RowdyRobbyPiper]

If WCW had won, they would have had tons of ammo to bury Vince with. His preference for Hogan and Warrior workers would have been seen as being short-sighted and myopic, the steroid trials would have been mocked, losing huge cash cows like Hogan, Savage et al. would have been noted and Vince would be put down as the wrestling equivalent of a Ken Lay - the tycoon who was undun by his own greed and avarice.

[SOR]

If WCW wins I think these quotes would be right on:

Triple H: "WWF was a joke. I stuck around for a pay cheque but myself and Shawn Michaels always heard about how great it was over in WCW."

JR: "WWF didn't know how to make new stars. They only made one star during it's entirety. Steve Austin."

Terry Taylor: "He hit a million stunners but never drew a dime"

Ric Flair: "WWF had no idea what it was doing. Vince McMahon was an idiot and was trying to sell me on the fact he made guys like Macho Man, Hogan, Luger. I mean, really? Really? You're going to sit there and tell me you made all those stars?"

Paul Heyman "A lot of people thought I hated Eric Bischoff but there is nothing further from the truth. Eric Bischoff gave a lot of my friends jobs and a lot of money. He's a great man. Vince McMahon stole all our talent and never gave us anything"

Gerald Briscoe: "At the end of the day we learnt one thing. Don't mess with Eric Bischoff"

[jason1980s]

hahaha. those are all awesome. but for how smarmy and arrogant bischoff comes off I am actually glad vince won. IMO, the lesser of two evils.

[Tony Schiavontay]

"Yes the name on the contract does say 'BISCHOFF'..."

[hassanchop]

JR: WWF RUINED DR. DEATH'S CAREER! BAH GAWD!

[Sir Woodrow]

Hogan: "Look at the guys they put the belt on, The Heartbreak Kid, broke hearts but never the box office jack!"

[Rolent Tex]

I'm not so sure Bisch would have trashed the history even know he can come off as a swarmy dick. I'm willing to bet a real "WWF" invasion and PPV ran by WCW would have been a million times better than what Vince gave us...even if it ended with Hogan pinning Stone Cold.

(Not gonna lie. Austin winning and taking Hogan's place as nWo leader would have made the net at the time meltdown if done proper.)

[Tony Schiavontay]

"The Rock couldn't headline a flea market wrestling show and the only thing "Stone Cold" about Steve Austin were his box office receipts, brother."

[Glitch]

JR would have been a major ass kisser to Turner if wwf had lost.

With the nature of DX and Stone cold, I can clearly see wcw saying that in their last ditch effort, wwf tried doing cheap tricks to save their dying company. It would so be implied that Vince tried to be crass because he had nothing else to offer.

[RedDevil]

"I knew Vince was getting desperate, but to throw his skanky daughter out on TV and make me pretend that she was my wife... it was a big embarrassment. I'm so glad to have left all that behind now, and to have found happiness with my beautiful soul-mate Jennie/Laura Turner-Levesque."

-Terra Ryzing

[DoubleDare]

Either scenerio Vince Russo gets to be blamed!
"As if Vince Russo's ideas's weren't bad enough, what was worse was when he left and the russo-wannabe's idea
s were even worse, mae young giving birth to a hand? Kurt Angle And Triple H fighting over vince's daugher, and undertaker as an american bad ass, plus lets not forget the endless mud/pudding/snow diva matches, and harvey wippleman as the womens champion! no wonder the wwf went under!"

[eDemento2099]

WCW could take credit for attracting fans by taking its cruiserweight/lightweight division MUCH more seriously than the WWF.

[eDemento2099]

Nov 17, 2013 1:57:52 GMT -5 Glitch said:

With the nature of DX and Stone cold, I can clearly see wcw saying that in their last ditch effort, wwf tried doing cheap tricks to save their dying company. It would so be implied that Vince tried to be crass because he had nothing else to offer.

WCW could (correctly) charge the WWF with ripping off ECW to capitalize on that small independent's remarkable success.

[Hugh Mungus]

I think that TNA wouldn't exist, but what about ROH?

[thecrusherwi]

I think they would've trashed the entire Vince Jr years as a sideshow deviation from the "real" wrestling in WCWs NWA heritage

"Here's the deal bruther, Vince lured me from Verne by saying "I'm gonna strap a rocket on you and send you to the moon! You'll be be
bigger than Muhammed Ali!" And while he turned out to be right about all of that, and I was probably even more famous than Ali than I even I dreamed I might be, he was constantly holding me back. I'd say "Vince, let me go tear the house down with Savage like Matsuda taught me!" And he'd just smile and say "shut up and just put your hand to your ear" Can you believe that bruther? I mean the guy had no clue how to draw money. I would plead with him to let me tear the house down with Hennig and Bret Hart and he would say "no. You're working with this zombie gimmick who is green as grass. The finish is throwing ashes in his face." It was an embarrassment most of the time. If I hadn't had my boys Mach and Flair there, I would've knocked him out bruther"

[4real]

The Rock would have been booked as Sting's wife's stalker

[hassanchop]

Booker T, Stevie Ray, Big T, The Rock, Ron Simmons, Mark Henry and Ron Killings as the new Harlem Heat 2000. Then we have Ric Flair, Triple H, Randy Orton, Batista(who becomes an ass kisser for The Sarge, and apologizes a thousand times for not listening) and Mark Jindrak as the New Horsemen. Chris Masters becomes the New Total Package as he defeats Luger and the old Total Package passes the torch and gives Masters his old NWA robe. Buff Bagwell still gets fired on July 9, 2001 for getting in fight with Sugar Shane Helms and the WWF stars that were bought, and Bischoff stands up to his mom and tells her to shut up. And in a shoot interview years later, Buff claims that Bischoff favored the WWF stars that came in that year, more than he did his own home grown talent.

[Todd Pettengill]

Schiavone: I told you all that Mick Foley would never put a lot of butts in seats!

[Todd Pettengill]

Nov 17, 2013 10:34:43 GMT -5 thecrusherwi said:

I think they would've trashed the entire Vince Jr years as a sideshow deviation from the "real" wrestling in WCWs NWA heritage

"Here's the deal bruther, Vince lured me from Verne by saying "I'm gonna strap a rocket on you and send you to the moon! You'll be be
bigger than Muhammed Ali!" And while he turned out to be right about all of that, and I was probably even more famous than Ali than I even I dreamed I might be, he was constantly holding me back. I'd say "Vince, let me go tear the house down with Savage like Matsuda taught me!" And he'd just smile and say "shut up and just put your hand to your ear" Can you believe that bruther? I mean the guy had no clue how to draw money. I would plead with him to let me tear the house down with Hennig and Bret Hart and he would say "no. You're working with this zombie gimmick who is green as grass. The finish is throwing ashes in his face." It was an embarrassment most of the time. If I hadn't had my boys Mach and Flair there, I would've knocked him out bruther"

I love when we get to read things in Hogan voice around here. This is one of the best fake Hogan promos. Ever.