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Post by Spider2024 on Nov 17, 2013 23:03:47 GMT -5
A thread for all the hypotheticals that we can discuss for if WCW had won, or was otherwise still around. I originally only had one question, but I think opening it up will make for some fun chatter.
Now for the first question: Would there be a WCW Network by now if they were still around? I'm inclined to think so, since the Turner companies had way more connections to the world of cable than WWE has ever had. Especially if WCW were the clear #1 wrestling company, they'd get their own channel.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Nov 17, 2013 23:23:11 GMT -5
A thread for all the hypotheticals that we can discuss for if WCW had won, or was otherwise still around. I originally only had one question, but I think opening it up will make for some fun chatter. Now for the first question: Would there be a WCW Network by now if they were still around? I'm inclined to think so, since the Turner companies had way more connections to the world of cable than WWE has ever had. Especially if WCW were the clear #1 wrestling company, they'd get their own channel. And we could have possibly gotten a Saturday Morning Slam type show on Cartoon Network |
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Post by Boo! on Nov 17, 2013 23:44:43 GMT -5
Not quite sure what HHH would be doing now. Does Eric Bischoff even have a daughter?
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 17, 2013 23:45:39 GMT -5
This thread seems so familiar...
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 18, 2013 0:27:29 GMT -5
The problem I see with WCW winning is twofold. Let's assume that WCW won then when would it have "beaten" WWE? I'd say it'd have to be before the rise of Stone Cold so around 96-97? This is when WCW was really hot with the nWo. Second are we also assuming that WCW wasn't incurring massive losses and aol/time warner didn't sell them off?
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Post by jimmyjames on Nov 18, 2013 0:41:05 GMT -5
TNT still gets rid of Nitro and AOL Time Warner tries to sell WCW. Only Bischoff and his group is able to buy it after securing a television deal with TNN. After that, I have no idea.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 18, 2013 1:34:38 GMT -5
The problem I see with WCW winning is twofold. Let's assume that WCW won then when would it have "beaten" WWE? I'd say it'd have to be before the rise of Stone Cold so around 96-97? This is when WCW was really hot with the nWo. Second are we also assuming that WCW wasn't incurring massive losses and aol/time warner didn't sell them off? AOL/Time Warner probably still sells, but a WCW that hasn't been mismanaged into a dried husk bleeding 80 million a year probably sells for a good amount, as opposed to Vince McMahon's pocket change. |
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 18, 2013 5:03:15 GMT -5
Not quite sure what HHH would be doing now. Does Eric Bischoff even have a daughter? Teaming with Sean Waltman as 30-time world champion Kevin Nash's pair of flunkies? |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 19, 2013 9:20:13 GMT -5
The idea of Warner giving WCW any help is laughable, while they wanted the network that wrestling built, they never wanted wrestling itself and it's a company that has a long history of hiring people hell bent on making sure that any film or TV projects that they're not 100% behind fail.
Had the WWF folded, I feel history would have still played out the way it did, WCW would start to stagnate in 1999 and Jamie Kellner would still want it gone. Linda McMahon is a smart business person, the McMahons have survived bankruptcy once before after all, the moment it looked like the WWF was past the point of no return, a lot of it's trademarks and property like the video library would be fenced off and made into Titan holdings so while Titan Sports goes under, the WWF's main assets remain in McMahon hands.
WCW would get a mass influx of former WWF stars, which they would overpay massively and would become even more topheavy and impossible to book, leading to huge losses and Warner to pull the plug... While Bischoff may want it, he has a hard time to convince anyone to invest without TV, which leaves the McMahons waiting as the only suitors willing to risk what remains of their personal fortune on wrestling, a deal which pays off, as with the WCW real purchase, the money spent is quickly recouped from the income from WCW's final PPVs. They keep WCW running for a year or two with no TV, selling DVD's based on the WCW and WWF footage, running shows with a mix of talent like Bret Hart, DDP, Undertaker and others before finally resurfacing on the USA network with a WCW branded show, featuring a bunch of loyal veteran talents and people poached from ECW.
Without the WWF and with a walking wounded WCW, ECW may have lasted long enough to sort out their cashflow problems and would be a viable second promotion. I'm sure they would have had issues with TNN, but they wouldn't have been so quick to kick them to the curb without the possibility of gaining the WWE so some sort of truce would eventually have been reached... I think in the late 2000s they would have run into a -lot- of issues with former talent suing over the health effects caused by the hardcore style and the ECW working environment, but that's another story.
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