How Finishers work (kayfabe)

[kamero00]

Like what causes them to be so much more effective than every other move?

Big Shows KO - A Blow to the head that knocks you out
John Cena's AA - I assume he is so strong, that the force he does it with, sends a jolt to his opponents spine, that slightly paralyzes him for 3-10 seconds(except if you're The Rock).

How do other finishers work in your opinion?

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

The Worm - Scotty's fisty's 2 hotty.

[MrBRulzOK]

I think the kayfabe explanation for most would be that the user of each finisher is able to execute the move alot better than anyone else who might attempt it. Maybe they know how to use it just right so that it inflicts the maximum damage.

It would explain why Jake Robert's DDT was pretty much instant death while nowadays you're lucky to get a two count off on one of those from somebody else.

[Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift]

Tomorrow morning, I am going to go buckwild on this thread.

#bprepared

[sdoyle7798]

Nov 20, 2013 2:06:09 GMT -5 kamero00 said:

Like what causes them to be so much more effective than every other move?

Big Shows KO - A Blow to the head that knocks you out
John Cena's AA - I assume he is so strong, that the force he does it with, sends a jolt to his opponents spine, that slightly paralyzes him for 3-10 seconds(except if you're The Rock).

How do other finishers work in your opinion?

They don't have to be temporarily paralyzed from the AA.

Just have the wind knocked out of them, or the impact stuns them, long enough for a pin.

As for other finishers, well, as has been said, it's a move someone has perfected to the point that they know it will end the match. And, sometimes, the other moves used in a match build up to the finisher.

Example: ADR throws you into the post, shoulder first. Then he kicks your arm. Then he does that "hang on to the arm over the ropes" thing. Plus any number of othr things.

So, by the time he is able to lock in the arm breaker, the arm is weaker, thus forcing you to tap.

[TGM]

Nov 20, 2013 2:16:31 GMT -5 Kayfabe FAN don't want none said:

The Worm - Scotty's fisty's 2 hotty.

A chop to the throat is likely to be more painful than the Attitude Adjustment.

[Reflecto]

Some of the smaller finishers, kayfabe:

-The Cobra: One benefit of Matt Striker was actually selling it in kayfabe (it's a shot to the windpipe, just given in a comedic way].

-The Leg Drop/People's Elbow: Unlike traditional elbow drops/leg drops, which can barely get a one-count, Hulk Hogan/The Rock (respectively) were both able to get a running start and get a little more force on it. The Rock was able to get double the running start that Hogan could get on his legdrop by crossing his opponent once before doing it. (Meanwhile, Hogan himself knew the benefit of a bit of a run before some impact, as he was also able to get his opponents on a running start, which led to them running into his Big Boot- and which took them out for long enough to allow Hogan the time to hit the running Leg Drop on them.)

-The Stinkface: The goal was never to injure the wrestler with a stinkface, but in humiliating the wrestler enough so they personally would say "I don't even want to continue this match", then personally decide "next chance I get, I'm letting this ass [pun intended] pin me." This is coincided with the Bronco Buster, which worked in a remarkably similar way- "I'm getting out of here before this guy makes me perform fellatio on him in front of 15,000 people" (also known in 2000-2002 as his dreaded "X-PAC SUCK!" finisher, so legendary that whole arenas chanted to see it throughout every show, in every promotion and arena.)

[Friday Night SmackOwn]

Daniel Bryan's Knee/The Move That Beat John Cena: It's a guy running at you full force and hitting you in the face with his knee. That would knock anyone out.

[Old Jack Burton]

The WMB/Knock-out Punch requires a 30-second charge time and a full super bar. However, Big Show can also use it at level one if he FRCs into it off of an alpha counter.

Also, Orton's SA1 has the shortest bar in the WWE, and it holds at least 3 stock.

[carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army)]

The Neutralizer: When Cesaro holds his opponents upside-down, it actually tricks them into thinking that their head is where their feet are. So, when he swings their feet into the ground, they think they've been knocked unconscious.

[Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift]

The Stone Cold Stunner - Stone Cold essentially drops you into an uppercut; a knock-out blow to the jaw, delivered by the shoulder.

The Pedigree - It's being dropped, unprotected, onto your face, with all of Triple H's weight on top of you. The fact that anyone could kick out is amazing.

The F5 - You're being driven down on your head, as your body, already disoriented and beaten badly, is spent spinning OUT OF CONTROL down into the ground.

[tenshi]

While it's not a finisher, Antonio Cesaro's "Black Diamond" Pop-Up European Uppercut is a great way to finish an opponent. As strong as he is, Cesaro manages to throw his opponent up in the air, letting their own weight come down by gravity and then he swings his arm up in an uppercut motion, adding momentum to the impact as the fallen body crashes with his arm. A normal uppercut would rattle your brain but Cesaro's pop-up version wouldn't just rattle the brain but also snap the victim's head back, causing a whiplash effect that would put anyone out. The move looks fancy but there's a sadistic side to it, in theory, it can be deadly.

[Mr T L Wolf]

Nov 20, 2013 9:28:37 GMT -5 Reflecto said:

Some of the smaller finishers, kayfabe:

-The Cobra: One benefit of Matt Striker was actually selling it in kayfabe (it's a shot to the windpipe, just given in a comedic way].

-The Leg Drop/People's Elbow: Unlike traditional elbow drops/leg drops, which can barely get a one-count, Hulk Hogan/The Rock (respectively) were both able to get a running start and get a little more force on it. The Rock was able to get double the running start that Hogan could get on his legdrop by crossing his opponent once before doing it. (Meanwhile, Hogan himself knew the benefit of a bit of a run before some impact, as he was also able to get his opponents on a running start, which led to them running into his Big Boot- and which took them out for long enough to allow Hogan the time to hit the running Leg Drop on them.)

The double running start is negated by The Rock stopping, taunting, then eventually swinging down for the elbow. It's actually what I didn't like about Luke Harper's discus clothesline at first, he clearly stopped to align when he was getting used to it.

[Amazing Kitsune]

On the Legends of Mid-South DVD, there's a *really* good segment wherein Mr. Wrestling 2 teaches the secret of his million dollar knee lift to Magnum TA. The reason his knee lift is so powerful is that he trains specifically to get the maximum amount of damage out of the move, he studies tapes so that he can know when to hit it, and he's made it such a primary part of his arsenal that he simply does it better than anyone else.

This logic applies to anybody. I can do a running knee, almost anybody can, but I haven't trained hard every day of my life to do it as good as Daniel Bryan does, for example.

[dav]

"I don't fear the man who's practiced 1000 punches a single time, I fear the man who's practice one punch 1000 times."

- Possibly Bruce Lee.