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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 22, 2013 22:42:15 GMT -5
Yeah and even if you have almost 40% of a female audience, you continue to book your women's division as pure shit, with most of them having no characters besides smiler or bitch who get into fights over petty things like musical chairs, looks, etc. Meanwhile, the one diva that is over as hell and has millions of girls adoring her is treated like the wicked witch over a bunch of unlikeable, screechy, awful women who are being pushed due to a garbage reality show/banging top superstars. But all that doesn't matter because Stephanie McMahon is the STRONG, WORKING, CAREER WOMAN. And WWE is not going to get double/triple the size of newer fans with the amount of dropping the ball and ruining newer stars/massive angles. Let's also not forget that Steph, and the only other woman with power, Vickie, are frequently portrayed as shrill ballbusters who are petty and vindictive. You know...role models. But truth be told, she is towing the line every corporate exec does. She's overselling the value of her compnay to the general public, and making her company look the best ever. It's insanity, but it's also business.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 23, 2013 0:10:40 GMT -5
The only women who can get over with a female audience in WWE (particularly younger girls) are tomboys. Lita did it. AJ's done it. The business suit wearing bitch will NEVER be popular with women. Stephanie can never accept that.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Nov 23, 2013 1:01:25 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan would be proud.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 23, 2013 1:43:46 GMT -5
I think they seem to think that it's like McDonalds putting Billions Served on their signs. In cases like that, McDonald's can make that claim. They have *served* literally billions of their hamburgers to their customers. A burger is a physical product that can be served to people who, probably, will buy more than one over the course of their lifetime. That doesn't work with WWE. If they were to say that their Pay Per Views for 2013 had more than 2 million buys, they'd be fine. But when they try to make that sound like 2 million different individuals ordered those PPVs (or worse, that RAW has been watched by a BILLION people, they're not "spinning" the numbers. They're outright lying. And they don't have to! They get legitimately good ratings. They make a pretty good profit. And they have both a long-time dedicated fan base AND attract new fans to the TV shows AND the live events. Their YouTube channel wound up getting however many views in a week? That's a great claim to make. It's honest. But when they try to make it sound like the number of views was the same as the number of VIEWERS, it actually makes them sound *worse* if you give it any amount of thought. "Oh, 10 million people watched one video and said "this sucks" and never watched another one? Meh. Let's see what Grumpy Cat is up to." [/quote] You don't have to explain that to me. I think it's as laughable as everyone else here.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Nov 23, 2013 1:56:53 GMT -5
Oh Stephanie. Why can't you just look pretty? If you ask me she can't even do that, she looks too much like Daddy with fake tits to be attractive
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SEAN CARLESS
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 23, 2013 2:01:44 GMT -5
The only women who can get over with a female audience in WWE (particularly younger girls) are tomboys. Lita did it. AJ's done it. The business suit wearing bitch will NEVER be popular with women. Stephanie can never accept that. Especially when you consider that Stephanie, by the very definition of what a successful business woman actually is, can't even make that claim. She's a complete product of nepotism who cannot ever be terminated despite her many failings and falterings; she was not qualified for her position, and has never succeeded in any way on her own merits. She's almost literally the opposite of her claims.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Nov 23, 2013 2:11:05 GMT -5
The only women who can get over with a female audience in WWE (particularly younger girls) are tomboys. Lita did it. AJ's done it. The business suit wearing bitch will NEVER be popular with women. Stephanie can never accept that. Exactly. Although she was a little more girlier, Trish Stratus can count as well. There were many times when she got her ass kicked by men or kicked their asses.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 23, 2013 2:27:41 GMT -5
The only women who can get over with a female audience in WWE (particularly younger girls) are tomboys. Lita did it. AJ's done it. The business suit wearing bitch will NEVER be popular with women. Stephanie can never accept that. Especially when you consider that Stephanie, by the very definition of what a successful business woman actually is, can't even make that claim. She's a complete product of nepotism who cannot ever be terminated despite her many failings and falterings; she was not qualified for her position, and has never succeeded in any way on her own merits. She's almost literally the opposite of her claims. Damn. Both of y'all have said exactly what I feel to the point where I never need to address the how I feel about Stephanie McMahon Helmsley Leveque McMahon ever again. But I will because I know she's not done talking stupid.
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SEAN CARLESS
Hank Scorpio
More of a B+ player, actually
I'm Necessary Evil.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 23, 2013 2:53:56 GMT -5
I think the problem with the McMahons is that traits they see as strong and admirable are actually detestable and repugnant to 95% of the normal population.
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Post by g1megatronfan on Nov 23, 2013 10:16:28 GMT -5
Never has a boring match? She obviously doesn't pay attention to the shows she's on. A good majority are boring. Any Del Rio match from his debut up to now is the very definition of boring. Bad bouts?...any divas match fits that to a tee. That or any with Khali or Zack Ryder in them. Either she's full of BS or she is really that stupid.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 23, 2013 11:31:32 GMT -5
Never has a boring match? She obviously doesn't pay attention to the shows she's on. A good majority are boring. Any Del Rio match from his debut up to now is the very definition of boring. Bad bouts?...any divas match fits that to a tee. That or any with Khali or Zack Ryder in them. Either she's full of BS or she is really that stupid. She's full of BS, but considering her status in the company she's never going to admit otherwise and we'd be foolish to expect her to. That would be an immediate blow to the stock. WWE will never be honest about their product as long as the money keeps rolling in, and it is. WWE makes money hand over fist regardless of ratings or buyrates being down and they're going to be making even more when the new TV rights fees are finalized in early 2014. They're going to be getting a huge influx of capital very soon b/c of this. I read a report that said the rights fees may double. They're setting themselves up to weather any sort of storm which will in turn continue to stagnate the wrestling product for a fear of going too far and antagonizing advertisers and stockholders. The only time WWE admits fault now is when the stock goes down or earnings reports are down. This is the biggest problem with taking the company public, at least in respect to the average wrestling fan that just wants quality TV. They have to answer to stockholders and the main thing stockholders want is a return on their investment and they answer to them before anyone else. If Stephanie, who is clearly taking over for Vince at some point, came out and said "Yea, its been boring, and the ratings are not where we want them" the stockholders would shit a brick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 11:49:21 GMT -5
She lives the Big Show's mantra: Go big or go home.
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