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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Nov 25, 2013 3:14:31 GMT -5
I say keep both the IC and US titles. That way WWE can have a Punch-Out like setup:
WWE Title = world title IC Title = major title US Title = minor title
As long as there is only one top champion, there can be multiple midcard champions like in the Attitude era. Getting rid of one of the world titles will hopefully increase the importance of the IC Title, and the US Title could hopefully get more attention too.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 25, 2013 3:27:47 GMT -5
I say keep both the IC and US titles. That way WWE can have a Punch-Out like setup: WWE Title = world title IC Title = major title US Title = minor title As long as there is only one top champion, there can be multiple midcard champions like in the Attitude era. Getting rid of one of the world titles will hopefully increase the importance of the IC Title, and the US Title could hopefully get more attention too. I feel like if the WHC is gone, the U.S. Title should be gone as well. I do understand the importance of a lower midcard title, but I do know that people may not like the idea that the belt that was once held by Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, Rick Rude and Sting now being held and contested by the likes of Tyson Kidd, Xavier Woods, and Fandango. I think they should either revive the European Title or create a new championship a brand new lineage altogether, maybe a WWE Television Championship (with no connections to the WCW one).
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 25, 2013 3:40:02 GMT -5
I'd just have the belt lineup be Undisputed World, IC, Tag and Divas for a period of time, at least until a new lower midcard (perhaps TV?) title can be made. That would be the champion that jobs to rising stars, while the IC champ would be the guy being groomed for main events, and thus way more protected.
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Post by spagett on Nov 25, 2013 3:54:46 GMT -5
I've got a better idea. WWE's parity booking strikes again. Big Show put Cena over back in 2004, so it's high time he gets his win back. We're not due another BigShow/Cena feud until at least 2015. Can't wait for that though, can Cena lift him up for the AA?
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Post by CM Parish on Nov 25, 2013 7:50:10 GMT -5
If this is the way they're going it makes sense that they had Sandow lose - they obviously gave him the briefcase at a time when they thought 2 World Titles were carrying on, but it looks like that has changed and they needed to get that briefcase off him because the WHC won't exist going forward.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Nov 25, 2013 9:14:39 GMT -5
I'd just have the belt lineup be Undisputed World, IC, Tag and Divas for a period of time, at least until a new lower midcard (perhaps TV?) title can be made. That would be the champion that jobs to rising stars, while the IC champ would be the guy being groomed for main events, and thus way more protected. Or they could just use the US Title for the lower midcard. I know wrestling fans have been used to the US Title being the equivalent of the IC Title, but I don't see the sense of scrapping one title and introducing a brand new one when they can just use the one they have.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 25, 2013 13:25:10 GMT -5
If this is the way they're going it makes sense that they had Sandow lose - they obviously gave him the briefcase at a time when they thought 2 World Titles were carrying on, but it looks like that has changed and they needed to get that briefcase off him because the WHC won't exist going forward. I initially thought that Sandow would keep the briefcase and eventually use it towards the unified title (although he'd still lose). Like that was the reason the briefcase was chocolate instead of SmackDown blue, so it wouldn't be associated with a "brand" anymore. But I also think unification is the reason guys like Ryback, Miz, and Dolph are getting depushed hard. I'd like to think they're finally letting them be actual midcarders instead of straddling that line between midcard and main event. I'd just have the belt lineup be Undisputed World, IC, Tag and Divas for a period of time, at least until a new lower midcard (perhaps TV?) title can be made. That would be the champion that jobs to rising stars, while the IC champ would be the guy being groomed for main events, and thus way more protected. Or they could just use the US Title for the lower midcard. I know wrestling fans have been used to the US Title being the equivalent of the IC Title, but I don't see the sense of scrapping one title and introducing a brand new one when they can just use the one they have. To me that just seems like crapping on the belt's history. It's no different from using the Big Gold as a glorified upper midcard belt. It would just come off as treating the title as "lesser" because it came from WCW. It's best if the U.S. title could be retired because people would just complain about certain talents dragging the title down.
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Post by Instant Classic on Nov 25, 2013 13:52:19 GMT -5
I gotta say I've been waiting for Orton/Cena feud since Orton won the MITB.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 25, 2013 14:02:59 GMT -5
I think the Unification match should take place at TLC, since it could be pushed as the "anniversary" of the unification of the WWF and WCW Titles. Maybe put Chris Jericho on the pre-show panel as a bonus.
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Post by playa on Nov 25, 2013 14:24:14 GMT -5
Well I'm glad they are unifying the belts because f*** it, that is long f***ing overdue.
But Cena Vs. Orton?!??! For like the 800th time, GODDAMN CENA VS. ORTON!!!!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 25, 2013 14:29:15 GMT -5
The only positive I can think of is I only have to skip one segment of Raw to avoid Orton and Cena instead of two.
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 25, 2013 14:32:00 GMT -5
No real problem with the title unification, even though I would miss the belt itself (thing of beauty) and the fact that we will no longer having a reincarnation in the current wrestling world of such an historic title after so over so many decades of different names/companies/versions. I will miss both those elements of it, but the current state of the company/business outweighs considerably with positives of just having the WWE Championship remaining. What I do have a problem with it's Cena vs Orton again, and they are the one's chosen to presumably unify them. You know what, if they got any kind reaction at RR2011 or last night x2, then I would be ok with it (not great but ok), but it's the fact that they are ignoring that it has no interest because they want to force it down our throats again. Hell Orton vs Cena, Orton vs HHH, Orton vs HHH vs Cena, Cena vs HHH, have all been done to death since mid 2000s. I bet HHH will wrestle one of them in this again, just so we could go fully back to the revolving door Orton/HHH/Cena era in the 2000's after so many years of good healthy change with Nexus/Punk/Bryan etc. It just baffles and angers me greatly
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Post by Rican on Nov 25, 2013 14:35:13 GMT -5
I'm fine with them keeping the IC and US titles and the US title basically being the new European title.
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Post by mizerable on Nov 25, 2013 15:07:25 GMT -5
I feel like if the WHC is gone, the U.S. Title should be gone as well. I do understand the importance of a lower midcard title, but I do know that people may not like the idea that the belt that was once held by Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, Rick Rude and Sting now being held and contested by the likes of Tyson Kidd, Xavier Woods, and Fandango. I think they should either revive the European Title or create a new championship a brand new lineage altogether, maybe a WWE Television Championship (with no connections to the WCW one). Lord...I never understood the love for the European title. There was very few times when it was interesting, and that was mostly due to someone tying a gimmick to it. The US title at least has merit as a title that helped propel some wrestlers into the main event. When did the European title ever do that? JBL?
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 25, 2013 15:11:10 GMT -5
I don't want another Cena/Orton feud, but if it means the end of the WHC, then so be it.
The US title should also be scrapped.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 25, 2013 15:17:47 GMT -5
I feel like if the WHC is gone, the U.S. Title should be gone as well. I do understand the importance of a lower midcard title, but I do know that people may not like the idea that the belt that was once held by Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, Rick Rude and Sting now being held and contested by the likes of Tyson Kidd, Xavier Woods, and Fandango. I think they should either revive the European Title or create a new championship a brand new lineage altogether, maybe a WWE Television Championship (with no connections to the WCW one). Lord...I never understood the love for the European title. There was very few times when it was interesting, and that was mostly due to someone tying a gimmick to it. The US title at least has merit as a title that helped propel some wrestlers into the main event. When did the European title ever do that? JBL? The U.S. Title had that merit because It was traditionally an upper midcard title on par with the Intercontinental Championship. I'm saying that WWE should use its own titles rather than treat the U.S. Title as a lesser championship as a reminder that WWE > WCW. The U.S. Title deserves to go out on a high note. There are guys that I want to see pushed and get a chance at a midcard title, but with them winning the U.S. Title, you risk the chance of them getting fan backlash because someone will complain about them "dragging the title down" and that's not fair to them. We saw that with Santino, and he was red hot and mega over when he won it.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 25, 2013 15:45:24 GMT -5
It'd be wonderful if we could skip the 'build' and just get Cena, on screen, for about 5 seconds with a 'you know what I'm here for. I know what I'm here for; see you at TLC'. Then just keep Orton away from a mic for a month, and let Cena continue mixing up with the midcard, and we'll have chuckles a-plenty.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 20:35:03 GMT -5
Del Rio and Big Show both got beaten clean so what are Cena and Orton supposed to do at TLC? And how are they going to juggle those feuds while keep teasing a feud with each other? Show was distracted so he gets another or he faces Mark Henry who he is scheduled to face on all the house shows in December and as for Cena, probably Sandow or Del Rio because they always find away to cram him in the title scene.
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Post by Error on Nov 25, 2013 20:36:52 GMT -5
Show was distracted so he gets another or he faces Mark Henry who he is scheduled to face on all the house shows in December and as for Cena, probably Sandow or Del Rio because they always find away to cram him in the title scene. Yep. Couldn't have been more wrong. Not the first time, not the last.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 21:20:48 GMT -5
I say reignite the brand split instead of unifying the titles! Who's with me!?!?
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